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Hi is this a defiency in my auto.green gelato

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Hi is this a defiency in my auto.green gelato

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craigsy said:
Ye cheers..I've raised the pots on wire stands and gonna not water again for a few days also I've increased the temp to 28 c hopefully this dose the trick you think
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You reckon Ileaving the lights on for 24 hrs is a good idea just for one day then go back to 18..or will that stress em out
 
#22
craigsy said:
You reckon Ileaving the lights on for 24 hrs is a good idea just for one day then go back to 18..or will that stress em out
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It depends.
If you are maxing your lights at your current schedule you will need to reduce your lights or you could exceed the DLI for the plant.
2 light things to worry about. Saturation point from to high power or to close. If way out damage can take an hour or less. This is hard on plant tops. Currently wo CO2 most strains are saturated at 75,000 lux or about 1100 ppfd for a 12 on 12 off. Numbers are average.
The second is the total amount the plant gets in 24 hours called the DLI. Most strains have a problem over 50 DLI again wo CO2.
There are charts online to understand this and to convert a reading into DLI.

If you have no way to measure light energy you will hafta learn the reactions to excessive light as well as too little light. Each reason will make the plant act different.
 
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JIMKSI64 said:
It depends.
If you are maxing your lights at your current schedule you will need to reduce your lights or you could exceed the DLI for the plant.
2 light things to worry about. Saturation point from to high power or to close. If way out damage can take an hour or less. This is hard on plant tops. Currently wo CO2 most strains are saturated at 75,000 lux or about 1100 ppfd for a 12 on 12 off. Numbers are average.
The second is the total amount the plant gets in 24 hours called the DLI. Most strains have a problem over 50 DLI again wo CO2.
There are charts online to understand this and to convert a reading into DLI.

If you have no way to measure light energy you will hafta learn the reactions to excessive light as well as too little light. Each reason will make the plant act different.
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Ok thanx i sort of understand .I've got a decent ppfd meter it's reading around 600 at min .I've just lifted the pots and there feeling lighter already.think I'm gonna wait another 24 hrs and maybe start feed of half grow and half bloom mixed together..my lights can go up to 600 watt was thinking give it another week at 400 they will be 50 days old then .so then put it up to 600 w for the last couple weeks wat u reckon.
 
#24
I reckon we still had a see if these square away. Depends how sour the roots got. I would not push any more demand until she gets sorted. The leaf issue will not get better for those leafs but we wanna see if it spreads or if the top bud sugars start to go yellow. Keep an eye on it and when the pot feels light and the edges have drawn away from the pot water the plant.
I do not know if the nutes require PH or not. Can not hurt to adjust to 6.2
 
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craigsy said:
Ok thanx i sort of understand .I've got a decent ppfd meter it's reading around 600 at min .I've just lifted the pots and there feeling lighter already.think I'm gonna wait another 24 hrs and maybe start feed of half grow and half bloom mixed together..my lights can go up to 600 watt was thinking give it another week at 400 they will be 50 days old then .so then put it up to 600 w for the last couple weeks wat u reckon.
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If it were my grow, I would purchase one of these. They are inexpensive and it will verify if your plants need watering.

Moisture meter
 
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RoadKillSkunkHunt said:
If it were my grow, I would purchase one of these. They are inexpensive and it will verify if your plants need watering.

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There really poor at reading soil bud
The soil has to be compacted hard for them to read properly if the soils as normal it reads poorly.

I tried a few times with different ones & couldn’t find one that read correctly there pretty far out when the soils losse ( ish )
 
#27
you shouldn’t be needing to ph at all
Boi bizz & soil & nutrient line are both organic.
You don’t ph organic grows.

craigsy said:
Was gonna spray them with some diluting Epsom salts
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I don’t think you should do that what bio bizz stuff are you adding atm ( they have a long line )
Are you just using the bloom & cali mg or are you adding other boosts/products from there line.
 
#28
Gmix said:
There really poor at reading soil bud
The soil has to be compacted hard for them to read properly if the soils as normal it reads poorly.

I tried a few times with different ones & couldn’t find one that read correctly there pretty far out when the soils losse ( ish )
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I disagree. I have been using them for years. I've never had issues with them. I have a number of them around the house. At least mine have been consistent regardless of which probe I use. Maybe yours weren't accurate but I swear by mine.
 
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RoadKillSkunkHunt said:
I disagree. I have been using them for years. I've never had issues with them. I have a number of them around the house. At least mine have been consistent regardless of which probe I use. Maybe yours weren't accurate but I swear by mine.
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I've used one of these pushed it to the bottom of put and it's reading slightly moist..I'm thinking maybe I just need to bump up the nutes..the buds seem to of got a bit fatter since the last pic I posted
 

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#31
JIMKSI64 said:
I reckon we still had a see if these square away. Depends how sour the roots got. I would not push any more demand until she gets sorted. The leaf issue will not get better for those leafs but we wanna see if it spreads or if the top bud sugars start to go yellow. Keep an eye on it and when the pot feels light and the edges have drawn away from the pot water the plant.
I do not know if the nutes require PH or not. Can not hurt to adjust to 6.2
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Thanx I've posted another pic .
 
#32
Gmix said:
you shouldn’t be needing to ph at all
Boi bizz & soil & nutrient line are both organic.
You don’t ph organic grows.



I don’t think you should do that what bio bizz stuff are you adding atm ( they have a long line )
Are you just using the bloom & cali mg or are you adding other boosts/products from there line.
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He is using shogun nutrient bloom. This is a mineral nutrient line not organic.
His biobizz had enough for a few weeks.
He is on the right track. Adding grow and bloom nutes and watching his dryback.
He should be using an EC PH tester with mineral nutrition but I can't make him and he is so close now just be an easy hand.
I really do not think he put enough nutrients in to even start a lockout.
At least being mineral he would not see fade for 10 days until it started the conversion. Feed uptake will be fast.
 
#33
Ok looking at your tips. Can you get a direct top down over center on both plants. Looks like we have some burn but the pic is blurry.
 
#34
JIMKSI64 said:
Ok looking at your tips. Can you get a direct top down over center on both plants. Looks like we have some burn but the pic is blurry.
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Ye the burn on the tips is old from early on..that's why I've been para about over doin the nutes I'll post another pic Wen I get back cheers
 
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JIMKSI64 said:
Ok looking at your tips. Can you get a direct top down over center on both plants. Looks like we have some burn but the pic is blurry.
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The burn on one plant is old but looks like there's some new burn but am confused because I hardly feed em..
 

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#36
craigsy said:
The burn on one plant is old but looks like there's some new burn but am confused because I hardly feed em..
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these are old leaves
 

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#37
Nevermind the back right plant just has some painted nails. Looks fine. Follow your plan.
Any damage like the rough older fans let us know.
Also the very poor leafs all burnt can be pulled or you can even trim just part of a leaf off. Plants not gunna care but you do not want necrotic leafs in the grow they attract Father Nurgle to spread blight.
 
#38
JIMKSI64 said:
Nevermind the back right plant just has some painted nails. Looks fine. Follow your plan.
Any damage like the rough older fans let us know.
Also the very poor leafs all burnt can be pulled or you can even trim just part of a leaf off. Plants not gunna care but you do not want necrotic leafs in the grow they attract Father Nurgle to spread blight.
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Cheers mate..thanx for the knowledge I appreciate it 👍
 
#39
Are these buds looking ok they've only got 3 weeks left to go..it's green gelato auto u think they'll fatten up much cheers
 

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craigsy said:
Are these buds looking ok they've only got 3 weeks left to go..it's green gelato auto u think they'll fatten up much cheers
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How are the trichs looking? Do you have some up close and personal pics of her?
 
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