I have a few questions about this plant I know it’s early to detect the sex of it but based on formation it looks male what do you think?

[superchola]

Even with crappy dirt if you use urine you don't need a pH meter urine got everything in it

 

[Eledin]

I guess I'm dumb been growing for years with out a pH meter

What pot size are you using? Because that doesnt work in 7gal or less, the ph buffers wont keep your ph stable all grow as they degrade, specially with tap water. If you use a pot big enough and you use ph buffers sure, you can water without PHing your water but you could help your nutrient intake and the life of your microorganisms if you phed the water to 6,5.

 

[Eledin]

Even with crappy dirt if you use urine you don't need a pH meter urine got everything in it

I cant use my own urine sadly because I take medications. Many medical users do so aswell so that makes it unfit. You need to think about all possibilities because you dont know, unless the people tell you, what circumnstances are surrounding them.

 

[Eledin]

Dont get me wrong Ive seen monster plants grown with nothing but dirt and manure or compost, Im mostly talking about indoors as this guy was giving recommendations that are not good for indoors in several indoors posts and got agressive with me when I debated him.

 

[Eledin]

Also people who are using RO (which wasnt the case in those posts) dont need to ph it because RO water is already at 6,5ph more or less. Unless their nutes change their PH of course, which happens with some organic liquids, specially if they fermentate. Theyre still good to use but you gotta watch out with that acidity. There's also some that are very acidic by nature like Alpha Boost which has lactobacillus so it helps keeping it alive to be at a ph of 4. Or big bud which uses citric and ascorbic acid.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Also people who are using RO (which wasnt the case in those posts) dont need to ph it because RO water is already at 6,5ph more or less. Unless their nutes change their PH of course, which happens with some organic liquids, specially if they fermentate. Theyre still good to use but you gotta watch out with that acidity. There's also some that are very acidic by nature like Alpha Boost which has lactobacillus so it helps keeping it alive to be at a ph of 4. Or big bud which uses citric and ascorbic acid.

I remember the first time I checked the water after putting in some Alaska Morbloom for a cheap flower feed. WTF. It's in a phosphoric acid solution as a stabilizer.

 

[superchola]

Mi I don't smoke other people's weed I don't even sale weed I don't even smoke weed with fertilizers I just smoke my own weed in black volcanic dirt an pure glacier water

 

[superchola]

I have read how contaminated samples of weeds are in the states an being in a poor country down here I'm sure it's just as bad

 

[superchola]

But I bet a lot of them meds people are eating as in pills probably a lot aren't that good for you in the long run either

 

[KG1]

Very rich coming from you, you insulted me yesterday for no reason when I was argumenting with you and you didnt know how to respond. Im not gonna waste my time with you, you clearly need to read a lot before you start giving advice to anyone. I get along with everyone in the forum but every so often a troll like you appears. Dont you realize? People laugh at your posts and dont even answer you, nobody is listening to you, you already demonstrated several times you know nothing.

No you felt insulted I didn't call you a 'Dumb F@#k' and public ally call for a banning....

Also it seems your now back tracking as others inform you of their lack of pH control in soil

I'll remind you that you stated all soil indoors and water needs to be ph'ed it it don't work......

Thanks for coming at me, looks like my attitude is infinitely better than yours, what an example you made!

 

[Eledin]

No you felt insulted I didn't call you a 'Dumb F@#k' and public ally call for a banning....

Also it seems your now back tracking as others inform you of their lack of pH control in soil

I'll remind you that you stated all soil indoors and water needs to be ph'ed it it don't work......

Thanks for coming at me, looks like my attitude is infinitely better than yours, what an example you made!

What do you mean others inform me? Only one person agreed with you and its an outdoors grower too, which I already told you like 5 times, Im talking about Indoors and you were giving bad advice for indoors and bad advice now telling him to cut the plant. I know perfectly well that in a pot big enough not phing is not as bad. I also know that farmers dont ph their water, like thats fking obvious isnt it? And the crops still come out fine, but you can certainly increase yields and flavor of anything with special treatment.
Youre changing the truth constatly to fit your narrative but the messages are up for everyone to see. I called for a ban because I thought you were trolling, you said male and that he should cut it. If it was a joke, is not the place for jokes, specially when you were the first one to tell him if it was male or female. Also I remind you that the posts where I said what I said were INDOORS GROWS. Im not backpedaling anything, everything I said I stand for, tell me where did I backpedal? I never said you should ALWAYS PH your water or your plants will die, but youre giving outdoors advice to indoor growers, smaller pots work differently and I still believe that PHing even if its outdoors in big pots is better, just not as necessary.
You clearly have mental issues, claiming im for a third world country cause I ph my water and constantly saying how youre better than me. Get a grip, Im still waiting for your arguments instead of insults and still nobody has seen your plants yet, are you afraid to show them or something? All my grows since Ive been in the forum are posted, if you grow nice plants, why not? Also if someone asks you to see them, why not? Hmmm...

 

[Eledin]

In fact I got a couple of private messages telling me to ignore you cause youre not alright in the head and are always talking nonsense. PHing your water is gonna make your plants happier and I see it as highly advisable in 7gal or less pots. I even told you that yes you can grow good weed without phing but is not the most optimal. I also told you that I dont ph the water for my vegetables.
If you have anything else to say to me send me a PM and stop yaping in other people's posts. Stop speading lies, missinformation and bad advice please.

 

[Eledin]

Mi I don't smoke other people's weed I don't even sale weed I don't even smoke weed with fertilizers I just smoke my own weed in black volcanic dirt an pure glacier water

Volcanic rock or ash is a fertilizer, I use it too. You cant grow weed without fertilizers unless you plant in nutrient rich soil, which means it already has fertilizers, its a fertile soil. I grow 100% organic and I use fertilizers. If youre refeering to salt based fertilizers, theyre not poison, theyre just the same chemicals in salt form. The reason I grow organic is because of all the supplements that come with organic, like aminos, vitamins, fytohormones etc... and the addition of microorganisms. Also I find it tastes better and less harsh for the lungs.
What is poison is the synthetic hormones that people use, and other things, but the salt based NPKs are not poison.

 

[Eledin]

But I bet a lot of them meds people are eating as in pills probably a lot aren't that good for you in the long run either

No they are not, but they are better than anxiety and despair every day hahaha. Ive always been reluctant to take medication but it got so bad that I was willing to try anything and they worked for me. Will I live less? Probably, but at least I have some peace of mind and like me many others, you really dont wanna live when every day is hell.

 

[Eledin]

Also burning stuff releases a lot of harmful chemicals. Weed is not different, more than 100 harmful chemicals were found when weed was combusted and there's hundreds more. Smoking kills way faster than most medicines.
Im asthmatic and weed makes my lungs way more irritated than tobbaco despite it being 100% organic.

 

[KG1]

What do you mean others inform me? Only one person agreed with you and its an outdoors grower too, which I already told you like 5 times, Im talking about Indoors and you were giving bad advice for indoors and bad advice now telling him to cut the plant. I know perfectly well that in a pot big enough not phing is not as bad. I also know that farmers dont ph their water, like thats fking obvious isnt it? And the crops still come out fine, but you can certainly increase yields and flavor of anything with special treatment.
Youre changing the truth constatly to fit your narrative but the messages are up for everyone to see. I called for a ban because I thought you were trolling, you said male and that he should cut it. If it was a joke, is not the place for jokes, specially when you were the first one to tell him if it was male or female. Also I remind you that the posts where I said what I said were INDOORS GROWS. Im not backpedaling anything, everything I said I stand for, tell me where did I backpedal? I never said you should ALWAYS PH your water or your plants will die, but youre giving outdoors advice to indoor growers, smaller pots work differently and I still believe that PHing even if its outdoors in big pots is better, just not as necessary.
You clearly have mental issues, claiming im for a third world country cause I ph my water and constantly saying how youre better than me. Get a grip, Im still waiting for your arguments instead of insults and still nobody has seen your plants yet, are you afraid to show them or something? All my grows since Ive been in the forum are posted, if you grow nice plants, why not? Also if someone asks you to see them, why not? Hmmm...

Bro so many have written about how not to pH, there's tons of threads and people here of that opinion.

Twice now you've gone mental at me and called me a 'Dumb F@#k' and similar whilst I have broken no rules and insulted no one in that manner.

Not only are you wrong but also think it's good to go round social media calling people abusive names....

THe consequences of disagreeing with Eledin, twice now bro, twice! If you can't be nice bully right!!!

 

[Eledin]

Bro so many have written about how not to pH, there's tons of threads and people here of that opinion.

Twice now you've gone mental at me and called me a 'Dumb F@#k' and similar whilst I have broken no rules and insulted no one in that manner.

Not only are you wrong but also think it's good to go round social media calling people abusive names....

THe consequences of disagreeing with Eledin, twice now bro, twice! If you can't be nice bully right!!!

Look man, you keep shaping reality to fit your narrative and Im not here for it. You were the first one to get agressive when you ran out of arguments and PHing the water in pots for indoors is advisable even if not necessary for the plant to survive. Also telling someone to chop a perfectly good plant as soon as possible is quite the dick move, Im not the one trying to harm other people's grows. I disagreed with many people in the forum, but they were polite unlike you so we are good. Keep writing what you want Im unwatching the thread, as I said if you want to debate like a civilized person you can write a PM or if you dont Im fine with it too.
PD: Is funny how you try to reverse the situation and make me look like the guy who cant argue when you said I was from a third world country shithole because I have to PH my water because is too alkaline. In here Ive been more agressive because the consequences of your actions (saying chop it fast) are just intolerable and if I were an admin I would at the very least give you a serious warning. Dont disrespect and expect to be respected and dont mess around with other poeple's plants and I will treat you just fine.

 

[Eledin]

Im gonna try for the last time to see if you get it: saying you dont need to ph to someone growing directly on the ground or in big pots is not the same as saying you dont need to ph to a guy that is using 7 or less gallon pots. Tell someone who uses 3 gallon pots not to ph their water and you will see problems in late flower if not sooner, unless its RO water and the nutes dont change the ph, but if its tap water or the nutes change the ph (many do)... bad idea.

 

[Greenadian]

Time to take your personal arguments elsewhere. How about you guys start a debate thread somewhere!? Your clogging up @HighRollin4 thread!!!

 

[Eledin]

Im trying to tell him but he keep telling lies and I have to defend myself from such. Twice I told him to take it to pm and he keeps yapping here. As I said I unwatched the thread anyway so he can keep talking to himself here if he wants.