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THE TRAINWRECK. Brought to you by thcfarrmer…..

Yea the thing is you have same nutes in the dirt but different amount eaten.more vpd eats faster soo you should have less nutes.just my opinion This is a problematic point of view. Primarily the reason to up the nutrition level is growth. Smaller plants...
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Yea the thing is you have same nutes in the dirt but different amount eaten.more vpd eats faster soo you should have less nutes.just my opinion
This is a problematic point of view.
Primarily the reason to up the nutrition level is growth. Smaller plants take smaller bites or they choke.
Organics is a storage system where nutrients are stored for release. When you up the feed rate.as you increase the transperation and lights the reserve takes up the additional needs of the plant. This will be depleted if not replaced.

Hydro is way different. The grow medium ( water with stuff in it ) has to be loaded with the proper strength withing a range that's appropriate for the growth and lights. It has no way to make up deficiency issues other than to fade leaves and too much will choke a plant.
 
Flowering pics from today.
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Big changes in the flower tent. Rotated two plants quarter turns. Also realized co2 was a little low so i blew a couple vape hits in there (only below canopy, obviously ) also turned my fan from one to two to simulate the Santa Ana winds. Can you believe all these plants grew a centimeter as I stood there and watched the vape smoke dissipate.

Also couldn’t make up my mind whether to sweep the floor or not so I didn’t. Maybe next grow. Idk what would you do in my situation? Sweep or let fungus continue growing? I think it’s good for the vpd personally.

Am I doing it right?
 
Big changes in the flower tent. Rotated two plants quarter turns. Also realized co2 was a little low so i blew a couple vape hits in there (only below canopy, obviously ) also turned my fan from one to two to simulate the Santa Ana winds. Can you believe all these plants grew a centimeter as I stood there and watched the vape smoke dissipate.

Also couldn’t make up my mind whether to sweep the floor or not so I didn’t. Maybe next grow. Idk what would you do in my situation? Sweep or let fungus continue growing? I think it’s good for the vpd personally.

Am I doing it right?
Well at least you are doing it high........
 
Did ya know out of the huge 3000 grams bag I saw at a medical marijuana cultivation facility that I had to packed, they had bud rot and they just test a small amount

Like for moisture they test a bit

And also they pick up bud and shake from the floor to make distillate

For quality assurance they just took a peek at a couple bags

To see its “all good”

It all about money.

Nothing medicinal, just legal weed
 
How's this for stability? I have a warm exhaust from a 12,000w portable ac unit in my 4x4 tent that blows directly into my 4x8 every 15-20 minutes when it cycles on. Plants don't care about stability, they strive in chaos. They love a warm, dry climate provided they have enough food, h2o & co2

VPD is hocus pocus at best. I haven't found anyplace that can say how it's actually calculated. you don't need to know trig to do simple arithmetic, or be able to see and understand cause and effect. Use that crap to fine tune a proven system maybe, but I don't think it's of much use to confuse noobs with it; I guarantee that a good mentor to teach a proven system to somebody, will get them much better results than any "vpd tools" you give them. I'm not saying they don't have uses. The main use I see for them is tracking and logging data points (which I'm not anal retentive enough to care about). But to believe that that vpd shit is the end all of cannabis growing, is mistaken. How are you measuring leaf temp? A cheap infrared thermometer?... ain't going to cut it, they're not accurate enough. If it's not an accurate measurement then your vpd number isn't true. If the rh/temp probe isn't calibrated properly, same thing. I have multiple hygrometers and thermometers, but none of them agree with one another.... Which ones do I use? Who's vpd chart do I use?, there are different ones of those... Even then you have to have very accurate instruments and very controlled conditions with very little room for error. So now, you've got your $200 inferred thermometer - how and where are the temp and rh measured at? 1 spot? or several then averaged? Same with leaf temp; do you take it at the top of the canopy? Or maybe top middle and bottom and then average?, but how many leaves do you test? 1,3,9,14? How about fans, blowers and ac; on or off? and is it the top of the leafs or undersides? which finger(s)? etc etc... Just so many variables , that personally I doubt it has much use other than setting arbitrary base lines, perhaps a placebo effect on the grower and maybe help with some diagnostics by knowing symptoms of too high/too low vpd, etc...

63/23% is outside, 75/85% is my 4x4 tent, 83/53% is my 4x8 tent, 77/39% is at my bedside
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This is from The National Weather Service (Notice it's just vp and not vpd)
Screenshot 2025 11 10 at 23 17 30 vaporPressurepdf

Next 3 are from: https://www.dimluxlighting.com/knowledge/blog/vapor-pressure-deficit-the-ultimate-guide-to-vpd/
Screenshot 2025 11 10 at 22 30 09 Vapor Pressure Deficit   The Ultimate Guide   Dimlux Lightin

This is something I've been saying forever:
Screenshot 2025 11 10 at 23 22 13 Vapour pressure deficit VPD in cannabis cultivation  Alchi

Screenshot 2025 11 10 at 22 32 17 Vapor Pressure Deficit   The Ultimate Guide   Dimlux Lightin

lmfao.... "...formulas are beyond the scope of this article." This says all I need to know about vpd. Unless you're in very controlled conditions, I say the numbers you get are like divining rod feedback.... hocus pocus, voodoo shite. 👊😎
 
Did ya know out of the huge 3000 grams bag I saw at a medical marijuana cultivation facility that I had to packed, they had bud rot and they just test a small amount

Like for moisture they test a bit

And also they pick up bud and shake from the floor to make distillate

For quality assurance they just took a peek at a couple bags

To see its “all good”

It all about money.

Nothing medicinal, just legal weed
So pretty much like the whole rest of the world.
All about the Benjamin's.
 
Big changes in the flower tent. Rotated two plants quarter turns. Also realized co2 was a little low so i blew a couple vape hits in there (only below canopy, obviously ) also turned my fan from one to two to simulate the Santa Ana winds. Can you believe all these plants grew a centimeter as I stood there and watched the vape smoke dissipate.

Also couldn’t make up my mind whether to sweep the floor or not so I didn’t. Maybe next grow. Idk what would you do in my situation? Sweep or let fungus continue growing? I think it’s good for the vpd personally.

Am I doing it right?
You should turn the fan to three to imitate black hawk helicopters spotting your grow, then hide in the closet for few days waiting with traps set for intruders that may or may not exist.
 
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