Question on transplanting and fking up

[Halloweed]

Hey all.

So I planned on transplanting 2 autoflowers today. My last grow I transplanted them without any issue. I don't know if I'm too high or what but I'm having a hell of a problem this time.

My one plant is 2 1/2 weeks and possibly showing signs of pre flower. The other is already behind so I didn't do much with her yet but basically I can't get them out of the pot without the soil falling apart.

I read to do it while the soil is moist so it stays clumped together but it still falls apart, or at least the top soul does. I can't remember how I did it last time lol.

Do I need to wait longer for there to be more roots? Or maybe I didn't have the entire pot wet? Hoping that I have not shocked them too much. Next time I'm just gonna plant into final container.

Any suggestions that will make it easier to remove from the pot? Help is appreciated, now I'm nervous to touch them.

 

[WinJr63]

Pics would be awesome, how tall is this plant ?
Wouldn't worry about it make sure this is the last transplant once is good just make a nice cover using arm, hand, body to keep hold on roots and soil put in new pot deep hole i get some of stock in the ground so no roots surface pack her down mount soil up on stalk yahoo feed her in the morning

 

[Oldchucky]

When I transplant, I knock about half of the dirt off of the roots, if not more and fluff them up a little, and drop them into their final pot! Never had one miss a beat! But they aren’t autos! I don’t like putting a dense plug of roots and soil into the looser surrounding medium! So I soften that plug up a bit! There’s 100 ways to skin a cat! Good luck with it!

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Everything I've ever read on autos says the same thing, don't transplant them as they don't take kindly to transplant and you went ahead and transplanted them anyway

I've grown my share and treated them as I would any other plant and no issues. WTF did you do

 

[pnwbluntman]

Always go straight into size of pot you plan to grow in. Up sizing when a plant is going into flower causes root shock when the plant is taking up valuable nutrients, as well as now you have changed soil pH and other variables at a quick rate. It will stunt because of the change. It takes time spending energy adjusting to the new area. It's a generalized rule not to transplant if your plant is in flower. What size pot did you think is too small, what's the volume size?

 

[pnwbluntman]

Companies sell auto kits with only one gallon pots, I know that's the least amount of medium you want to grow an auto in

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Always go straight into size of pot you plan to grow in. Up sizing when a plant is going into flower causes root shock when the plant is taking up valuable nutrients, as well as now you have changed soil pH and other variables at a quick rate. It will stunt because of the change. It takes time spending energy adjusting to the new area. It's a generalized rule not to transplant if your plant is in flower. What size pot did you think is too small, what's the volume size?

Eh, seriously. Never treated them any different. Never had an issue with 'em. I don't see why they need to be babied. They got transplanted without missing a beat. There's pics and updates on my old posts. Nothing out of the ordinary. I always wondered about the reports

Here's where the experienced growers need to speak up. Any issues with autos? I mean other than not producing the highs of regs? Serious about that. I wanted to grow 24/7 autos year round but they never came close to the high of regs.

Give me another month and I can grow and flower regulars with more mass and THC. Why would I waste my time and energy on an inferior product?

 

[Vick_Vinegar]

Eh, seriously. Never treated them any different. Never had an issue with 'em. I don't see why they need to be babied. They got transplanted without missing a beat. There's pics and updates on my old posts. Nothing out of the ordinary. I always wondered about the reports

Here's where the experienced growers need to speak up. Any issues with autos? I mean other than not producing the highs of regs? Serious about that. I wanted to grow 24/7 autos year round but they never came close to the high of regs.

Give me another month and I can grow and flower regulars with more mass and THC. Why would I waste my time and energy on an inferior product?

Same. They are just plants that don't need a photoperiod change to flower. I've treated them the same as me photos for 10 or so years with none of these issues people seem to get when it comes to transplanting or training/topping.

Not one person has been able to pick the autos from photos side by side or in smoke even though they all claim they can as well which I find hilarious.

Most of it is all peoples projections. Like I have mates that swear they can pick any auto after smoking it side by side to a photo and that autos are trash, but they've been talking up me autos for years simply because I don't tell em they are autos lol, so they are all full of shit anyway.

Funnily enough I can give them two bags of the same photoperiod and they'll say ones worse if I call it an auto so I don't bother anymorevas 90% of the time they've got their mind made up on autos. Good weed is good weed regardless of what strain tbh.

If you can keep a photo happy, you can go the same with an auto. To sum it up, I've never had a single person be able to tell (with any reliability whatsoever) which plants are the autos and what are the photos side by side as I always flip me photos around week three anyways so they get about the same veg as the autos. Regardless of how many people reckon they are masters of picking out autos, I put em to the test all the time and never had anyone pick properly.

 

[pnwbluntman]

I'm not expert on autos by any means, I just know where plants put energy and follow basic guidelines, the plant will be fine no doubt about it. But if you look at other growers, majority of the time once any flowering stage they usually are more worried about feeding then how big the pot is. As well it's usually a rule of thumb on photosynthesis strains, the bigger the pot the longer the veg. Autos automatically go into flower after a certain period of time, so I would figure you wouldn't want the plant waisting time on a transplant rather than just going to the size pot you would run in the long run?

 

[Vick_Vinegar]

I'm not expert on autos by any means, I just know where plants put energy and follow basic guidelines, the plant will be fine no doubt about it. But if you look at other growers, majority of the time once any flowering stage they usually are more worried about feeding then how big the pot is. As well it's usually a rule of thumb on photosynthesis strains, the bigger the pot the longer the veg. Autos automatically go into flower after a certain period of time, so I would figure you wouldn't want the plant waisting time on a transplant rather than just going to the size pot you would run in the long run?

The issue with going straight into a big pot is that the plant won't fill the pot with roots in the 3-4 weeks veg they get. The roots just run to the bottom and circle, and the rest of the pot is sparsely filled from experience. If I start me autos in 1.5L pots and then move them into 2 gal pots, I get a way more even distribution of roots in the final pot with far less spiralling down the bottom and around the outside. That goes for my photos as well from experience.

There shouldn't be any energy required to recover from a transplant as transplanting isn't a stressful process in geberal. They usually thank you immediately, not go into any recovery stasis. Probably transplanted 100 autos and never had any that didn't pick up immediately after transplant so I'm not sure about this so called energy burning recovery needed. Just an easy way to distribute the roots more evenly throughout the pot really.

I've generally found my yields pretty much stay the same with autos once I get to a 2-3 gallon pot. With the 3-4 weeks veg it ends up being a waste of medium if I go any bigger and the roots never fill the pot properly at that stage. Usually get about 2.5-3.5 zips a plant off the autos regardless of the pot size being 2g or 5g.

 

[Vick_Vinegar]

I read to do it while the soil is moist so it stays clumped together but it still falls apart, or at least the top soul does. I can't remember how I did it last time lol.

Wait a bit longer and let the soil dry. The medium will hold weight when it's full of water and that weight breaks apart the root ball. Usually I'll fill a 5" pot with roots in about 3 weeks.

I generally take a fork to my roots, tease the shit out of them so they are all fuzzy and aerated, break em apart a bit and if I go longer than three weeks I'll literally cut the bottom inch of rootball off completely before transplant and don't really have any issues.

They are hardier than they look. But letting the roots fill out a bit, and letting the medium dry out a bit more, it will help the medium pull from the side of the pot when it loses water volume which makes it easier to release without having to squeeze the shit out of it and break the ball apart.

 

[Halloweed]

Sorry. Thought I added pics.

Thanks for everyone's help. I'm just not gonna worry too much about them and put them in the earthboxes. I have mychorrizhal I'll sprinkle the shit out of before transplant and give a good watering before lights out and hope for the best.

 

[Halloweed]

I transplanted these a few days ago. Had a difficult time but managed. In case anyone was interested I figured I'd post pics.

Leaves are drooping a bit on my one plant. Not sure if I'm overwatering or something else...light too close maybe.