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That copious is in high gear now! Can’t wait to see her final shape!

Both Grafts of her appear to be taking, just gotta look for a few good choice nodes off the Death Star and the real sour 90’s AK crosses to get onto the Hydra plant then I’m flipping the 4x8, went ahead and tied back the tops on the real sour as it’s stretching a bit more than the Death Star is but that’s ok I can work with that, bumped up the power in the 4x8 to 650w total
 

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The Albuga/Tartarstan battery factory is on fire, so Forest doesn't get replacement ballasts for his lights for a while. They are also sanctioned. There are only two and both factories burned.
 
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Mikedin said:
That copious is in high gear now! Can’t wait to see her final shape!

Both Grafts of her appear to be taking, just gotta look for a few good choice nodes off the Death Star and the real sour 90’s AK crosses to get onto the Hydra plant then I’m flipping the 4x8, went ahead and tied back the tops on the real sour as it’s stretching a bit more than the Death Star is but that’s ok I can work with that, bumped up the power in the 4x8 to 650w total
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I snapped a limb yesterday doing some training, was inspired to try fixing it from seeing your grafting, and so far it's holding strong. Normally I would either just use it as a clone or say f-it. Didn't have any grafting tape, ended up using some painters tape. Its hasn't been even 24 hours and it already perked back up. I do got to give thanks where it's do. Hopefully it stays going strong.
 
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I snapped a limb yesterday doing some training, was inspired to try fixing it from seeing your grafting, and so far it's holding strong. Normally I would either just use it as a clone or say f-it. Didn't have any grafting tape, ended up using some painters tape. Its hasn't been even 24 hours and it already perked back up. I do got to give thanks where it's do. Hopefully it stays going strong.
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It will I’ve taped plants back together that split down the center of the main stalk 6” where it was topped, made it to harvest fine lol
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I'm surprised no grafts flipped out and hermed yet, you'd think there is a numerical chance...
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well they are all still in veg ofc haven’t flowered it out yet, I’m actually cloning the main kahuna to try and get 2 healthy new graft recipients I’ll take cuts off the current hydra then I plan to flower them out in the 4x4 next run, depending on how they do I may do more of them and keep adding strains as I go lol
 
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Mikedin said:
It will I’ve taped plants back together that split down the center of the main stalk 6” where it was topped, made it to harvest fine lol

well they are all still in veg ofc haven’t flowered it out yet, I’m actually cloning the main kahuna to try and get 2 healthy new graft recipients I’ll take cuts off the current hydra then I plan to flower them out in the 4x4 next run, depending on how they do I may do more of them and keep adding strains as I go lol
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So the Hydra just originates as a mother correct? Because I broke that branch clean off, it was about two inches from the stock, and it did fine going right back on. So if I can do that, I have more confidence in doing a Hydra myself and starting a project as well. I would post pictures of a Hydra project due to it being something interesting to me and new to try
 
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They are making ready player two atm. And stranger things was kinda lame for the first season, but still ended up becoming a decent show.
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The book was harder for Ready Player Two, definitely can't make it a fiction universe and keep going. PThis is supposedly coming and the books were great...
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pnwbluntman said:
So the Hydra just originates as a mother correct? Because I broke that branch clean off, it was about two inches from the stock, and it did fine going right back on. So if I can do that, I have more confidence in doing a Hydra myself and starting a project as well. I would post pictures of a Hydra project due to it being something interesting to me and new to try
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Yep! You wanna make sure the cambial alignment is correct the white part of the stem under the “bark” or outer layer, proper alignment allows the formation of new Xylem which is what moves water through the plant, when you make the graft make sure that they are tightly bound together, it’s why we cut the V into the recipient and then cut the bottom of the graft into the reverse V slip them together and make sure the V on the bottom of the graft goes all the way down Into the V you created on the host. The plant will begin to heal itself and in the process hind them together

Plant Stem Structure Key to Grafting
  • Vascular Cambium: This thin, actively dividing layer of cells located between the bark and the wood is the most critical structure for grafting success. It produces new xylem and phloem cells.
  • Xylem: This tissue is responsible for transporting water and nutrients from the roots (in the rootstock) upward to the rest of the plant.
  • Phloem: This tissue transports sugars and hormones produced in the leaves (on the scion) to the rest of the plant, including the roots.
    • Callus: When a plant is wounded, it produces a mass of undifferentiated parenchyma cells, called callus, at the cut site. This tissue bridges the gap between the scion and rootstock, eventually differentiating into new vascular tissue to form the graft union.


Key Aspects of Grafting Plants Together
For a graft to be successful, several critical factors and procedures must be followed.
  • Compatibility: The scion and rootstock must be genetically compatible, generally from the same species or closely related species within the same genus. Grafting between different families is highly unlikely to succeed.
  • Cambial Alignment: The vascular cambium layers of the scion and rootstock must be placed in tight contact and properly aligned to allow the vascular tissues to join and form a functional connection. This is the single most important technical aspect.
  • Proper Timing: Grafting is typically most successful when the plant is in an appropriate physiological stage, often when the scion is dormant (e.g., in winter or early spring before bud-break) but the rootstock is just beginning to become active.
  • Protection of the Graft Site: The joined area must be protected from desiccation (drying out) and infection. This is achieved by tightly wrapping the union with grafting tape or string and sealing all exposed cut surfaces with grafting wax or a sealing compound.
  • Environmental Conditions: The grafted plant often requires a specific healing environment, such as high humidity and appropriate temperature, to encourage the formation of callus and vascular connections.
  • Post-Graft Care: After the graft "takes," any shoots or suckers that grow from the rootstock must be removed to ensure the scion's desirable traits are maintained and all energy is directed to the grafted portion.
  • Proper Technique: Clean, sharp tools and precise cuts are necessary to minimize tissue damage and ensure maximum contact between the cambium layers. Different techniques (whip, cleft, bark, etc.) are suited to different plant sizes and types.
 
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This could be the trick that helps people like me with their pant limits be able to produce large amounts of a variety of strains at once, like said above I have to see how they do flowing out but as I am doing it and giving a long time for the strain to attach veg and stabilize the plant should be experiencing no stress when flipping into flower so fingers crossed


One plant can easily fill a 4x4 / 5x5 and with more patience you can really get a monster,

IMO the trickiest part is keeping the scion alive long enough for water to begin transporting through the system again, I tried a few methods but the custom ziplock so far has been a consistant winner I spray water inside the baggie pit it over the top and down past the graft point then seal the bottom, after 3 days cut a small corner off the top of the baggie so air can come in very slowly, within another 3 days you should see the graft turning back up and lifting leaves, wait 2-3 more days then open the bottom of the ziplock to let more air in, once they seem strong take off the baggie and monitor for 2 days if no wilting you’re good it’ll stay stagnant while it mends the stem and once it does it’ll be a rocket ship lol
 
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To the lovely people in this thread, does this plant look overwatered? Recently transplanted and I'm not sure if I'm overwatering or if it is something else. It started looking like that yesterday that I've noticed.

It's already starting to flower but hasn't stretched. I usually water the top water a little bit each day so it stays moist for the worms but since the plant is in its final home, maybe that is too much at this stage?

Also, late Happy Thanksgiving!
 

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I mean it does but also plants can "show over water" because they got moved or something. I know they're plants but they have primitive moods and shit. Fungus feels different it feels more like you're working with an intelligence of sorts, plants are... puppy-ish. They want to be trained and to respond to a schedule and all that. I've had more than one who are dramatic about day of water or day of water before watering. Sativas I think I can say "play dry".
 
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Mikedin said:
This could be the trick that helps people like me with their pant limits be able to produce large amounts of a variety of strains at once, like said above I have to see how they do flowing out but as I am doing it and giving a long time for the strain to attach veg and stabilize the plant should be experiencing no stress when flipping into flower so fingers crossed


One plant can easily fill a 4x4 / 5x5 and with more patience you can really get a monster,

IMO the trickiest part is keeping the scion alive long enough for water to begin transporting through the system again, I tried a few methods but the custom ziplock so far has been a consistant winner I spray water inside the baggie pit it over the top and down past the graft point then seal the bottom, after 3 days cut a small corner off the top of the baggie so air can come in very slowly, within another 3 days you should see the graft turning back up and lifting leaves, wait 2-3 more days then open the bottom of the ziplock to let more air in, once they seem strong take off the baggie and monitor for 2 days if no wilting you’re good it’ll stay stagnant while it mends the stem and once it does it’ll be a rocket ship lol
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I appreciate all the information, saved it all to my documents. I'm going to start up a new plant for a mother so that there is no stress prior to trying this out. Good thing I have enough plants that's if I am not successful at first. I know I will be eventually, without the stress of it hurting what I have going on already, if anything it will help me in the long run having this skill I will soon develop. I will keep track of my progress and keep you posted.
 
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Halloweed said:
To the lovely people in this thread, does this plant look overwatered? Recently transplanted and I'm not sure if I'm overwatering or if it is something else. It started looking like that yesterday that I've noticed.

It's already starting to flower but hasn't stretched. I usually water the top water a little bit each day so it stays moist for the worms but since the plant is in its final home, maybe that is too much at this stage?

Also, late Happy Thanksgiving!
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Probably just stretching a bit, what’s the pot size and tent size and light / power, I think it’s best to water pretty heavily but seperate by like an hour give em half the water slow, then an hour later and give it a good drench, it helps not have any runoff but let’s the soil cycle a bit of a wider moisture range the worms will move with that moisture curve too bringing top to bottom
 
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pnwbluntman said:
I appreciate all the information, saved it all to my documents. I'm going to start up a new plant for a mother so that there is no stress prior to trying this out. Good thing I have enough plants that's if I am not successful at first. I know I will be eventually, without the stress of it hurting what I have going on already, if anything it will help me in the long run having this skill I will soon develop. I will keep track of my progress and keep you posted.
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It’s a cool skill to have either way, I gave it a shot on a apple tree this year with no luck but figured I’ll keep tryin!
 
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