She looks so sad.. Please help

[Hadeznuts]

She seems to be struggling and im not sure if it’s a temperature issue or lack of nutrients or to much nutrients.

She’s in a half and half mix of Promix and fox farms ocean forest. I added a little bat guano like the instructions said when I transplanted it.

The PH of the water is about 7 and the TDS meter says around 60

 

[Hadeznuts]

I meant to post this in the infirmary.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Ok. Promix and FF is fine.
Any other additions other than the poop
The statement tds says 60 is not a valid number. Tds will be from .3 to 2.5 or even higher in an organic grow if you properly test the soil with a slurry. If you hit ppm from 300 to 3000 again only measuring an organic grow.
Unless you are going to start adding chemical nutrition EC in an organic grow will always read way high until all of the nutrition preloaded in the soil depletes. If you are staying organic you must amend the soil with nutrients about a week to 10 days before they are needed as then need time to convert to useable stuff.
Let's talk about your watering practices. How do you determine when to water your plant and how much and how often are you watering your plant.
Also if you have some specs on your light like a ppdf or lux reading post that if not what light, what power setting, and what distance.
Post light on temp and humidity, schedule you are on and the light out temp and humidity.

 

[capone304]

She honestly looks lil over watered to me possibly root rot?

 

[JIMKSI64]

She honestly looks lil over watered to me possibly root rot?

Yes but no color shift yet from root issues.
He gets a handle on it will be fine.
I just want a rundown to make sure something silly like 71 degrees at 79% RH is not going on.

 

[Hadeznuts]

Yes but no color shift yet from root issues.
He gets a handle on it will be fine.
I just want a rundown to make sure something silly like 71 degrees at 79% RH is not going on.

Im gonna be honest… it could be something crazy like that because I don’t have a humidity tester and my house is set to 65 it’s probably closer to the 70s in the grow room. I can’t find any specs for the light but I’ll post some pics so you can see what I’m working with. I also repotted into just straight a 5 gal container with holes at the bottom and some rocks for drainage. The roots didn’t really grow much. I only used the Promix. I figure when she starts perking up I’ll top dress it with ocean forest and bat guano.

 

[Hadeznuts]

Oh and I meant 60ppm my mistake
And

Yes but no color shift yet from root issues.
He gets a handle on it will be fine.
I just want a rundown to make sure something silly like 71 degrees at 79% RH is not going on.

 

[RGWD0202]

It looks overwatered. If you can, I’d put the plant in 100% ocean forest. It’s past the seedling stage and can definitely handle it. There are no nutrients in the pro mix and minimal in bat guano, but guano is still a good source of micro and macros. If you can’t move it you’ll need to get her fed asap.

Are you trying to go full organic or bottles? If you are going organic find a good all purpose product, Gaia green makes a solid all purpose product and so does buildasoil with their craft blend. I think down to earth also makes a good all purpose if you want to stay on brand with your guano. If going bottles I cant help much. You’ll also want to add langbeinite to get some Magnesium and Sulfur in there. I’d get those two products and top dress. And then 4 weeks from now do that same top dress again. If you can find worm castings that’ll help too. Just remember with organics it takes time weeks months even years to break the amendments down to become plant available. To help break them down faster get a microbial product like great white or recharge. I use both together. Give it a week and she’ll bounce back.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Ok. Promix and FF is fine.
Any other additions other than the poop
The statement tds says 60 is not a valid number. Tds will be from .3 to 2.5 or even higher in an organic grow if you properly test the soil with a slurry. If you hit ppm from 300 to 3000 again only measuring an organic grow.
Unless you are going to start adding chemical nutrition EC in an organic grow will always read way high until all of the nutrition preloaded in the soil depletes. If you are staying organic you must amend the soil with nutrients about a week to 10 days before they are needed as then need time to convert to useable stuff.
Let's talk about your watering practices. How do you determine when to water your plant and how much and how often are you watering your plant.
Also if you have some specs on your light like a ppdf or lux reading post that if not what light, what power setting, and what distance.
Post light on temp and humidity, schedule you are on and the light out temp and humidity.

I think you just got the EC and TDS turned around. TDS reading of 60 would be 0.1 using the 500 conversion method. If your pen doesn't do it for you, double the number and add a decimal two digits from the right. (60x2=120 or an EC value of 0.12)

 

[JIMKSI64]

I understand the readings but anything with organic nutrients will have a reading so high it will seem like in incorrect value.
Happy frog alone with an active biome and a slurry test will be thousands of ppm.

Until it is used up.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Oh and I meant 60ppm my mistake
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Ok I measure in lux.
7200 lux is young seedling stage and not for a plant at node 5.
ack bad link

How to Use a Cheap Lux Meter to Increase Yields | Grow Weed Easy

An inexpensive lux meter lets you measure that amount of light at a specific point in space - learn how to use this tool to increase your yields!

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[JIMKSI64]

And watering practices please.

 

[Hadeznuts]

And watering practices please.

I’ve been terrible with writing down my watering. But I did just start a journal on this site. Basically i just watered her when she felt light. But I think that’s been to much. I’ll start one.

It looks overwatered. If you can, I’d put the plant in 100% ocean forest. It’s past the seedling stage and can definitely handle it. There are no nutrients in the pro mix and minimal in bat guano, but guano is still a good source of micro and macros. If you can’t move it you’ll need to get her fed asap.

Are you trying to go full organic or bottles? If you are going organic find a good all purpose product, Gaia green makes a solid all purpose product and so does buildasoil with their craft blend. I think down to earth also makes a good all purpose if you want to stay on brand with your guano. If going bottles I cant help much. You’ll also want to add langbeinite to get some Magnesium and Sulfur in there. I’d get those two products and top dress. And then 4 weeks from now do that same top dress again. If you can find worm castings that’ll help too. Just remember with organics it takes time weeks months even years to break the amendments down to become plant available. To help break them down faster get a microbial product like great white or recharge. I use both together. Give it a week and she’ll bounce back.

I took your advice and planted her in her final home a 5 gallon pail with a bunch of holes drilled and they sitting off the floor on a pallet now to help with air flow. Haven’t given any of them water yet. The Ocean Forest already felt damp. I do have down to earth buildaflower. But I need to get something for veg besides just bat guano. I would prefer to just stick with top feeding and some bottles if need be. Organic would be ideal. But im poor and I’ll take anything i can get lol. I was trying to stick with top feeding for the ease of it.

Anyways here’s some pictures of how she looks now. And I threw in a picture of my clone who looks fine to me for being “revegged”

 

[JIMKSI64]

Sweet. The OF will give you 2 weeks to get some organic nutrients into the pot.
Whatever you run as organic nutes do not custom make a feed schedule. Use the feed rate recommemed and if they say 3-5 of whatever always add max when running organic.
Cheap and good and should be avalable at hardware stores but as I found out all the soil and stuff is gone and xmas shit is up would be Dr Earth gold grow and Dr Earth Flower girl. organics with the organic boosters needed to power the grow.
online good and cheap you can not beat gia green line of organics

peace

 

[Hadeznuts]

Just an update on how shes doing. I split the stem on accident but she’s healed up well. The last two pictures are from today. The sick seedling is the one on the left. I flipped her into flower 8 days ago.

Anyways I just wanted to say thanks for the advice and show how much you guys have helped me