They might be worse..? Advice appreciated please!

[ChasinTrichomez]

Sorry for the little bit of rambling in the video and going back-and-forth I got ADHD lol but anyway, I made several post about this. I know everyone on here is probably annoyed. Thought it was a watering issue as it’s progressing the leafs get these weird blotches and spots on them. They’re originally clones I got off a buddy little over a month ago at this point in each day I open the tent no matter what watering schedule I give them no matter what I do to try to make them write all the levels are good. PH. EC PPM levels. I have a par meter. PPFD readings are good as well. Also, one more thing I ripped up the one plant that was bad off the rip and inspected the roots just because I couldn’t do anything to fix it anyway so I discarded it basically did a little autopsy to see if I could figure out lol in the roots were all good no brown roots no mushy roots. I don’t know what’s going on.

 

[WinJr63]

I would replant 1 in new soil, see what happens

 

[WinJr63]

I would replant 1 in new soil, see what happens

Or better yet feed a higher npk for plants stage,

 

[Vetsgrow2]

Your plant is getting to much IRON....(?)

 

[WinJr63]

Ya flush and flush check runoff 10-20% runoff each plant show pics of ur ppm and ec. I have noticed i flush 2 days after feed (i even flush after feed time to bring down my ppm) check runoff will be higher again after a few days bring down ppm again then feed again on the 4-5 day and start over again. I think that might be why we flush good b4 harvest.
I hope that makes sense I feed high and flush

 

[Ninjadogma]

Sorry for the little bit of rambling in the video and going back-and-forth I got ADHD lol but anyway, I made several post about this. I know everyone on here is probably annoyed. Thought it was a watering issue as it’s progressing the leafs get these weird blotches and spots on them. They’re originally clones I got off a buddy little over a month ago at this point in each day I open the tent no matter what watering schedule I give them no matter what I do to try to make them write all the levels are good. PH. EC PPM levels. I have a par meter. PPFD readings are good as well. Also, one more thing I ripped up the one plant that was bad off the rip and inspected the roots just because I couldn’t do anything to fix it anyway so I discarded it basically did a little autopsy to see if I could figure out lol in the roots were all good no brown roots no mushy roots. I don’t know what’s going on.

You're thinking along the right track, looks like leaf septoria with those spots. You rattled off soil data but what about environment? What has RH been sitting at? Your defenses are going to be air filtration to remove spores, keeping the RH low so it's a less favorable environment, and you can throw in some UV-B lights that kill spores.

Leaf posture looks to me like the soil isn't being given proper drybacks, being left too moist. Could be a secondary danger of fusarium if not corrected.

So, looks to me like you do have some water problems going on, just affecting your grow a little more differently with the presence of rot pathogens.

 

[ChasinTrichomez]

You're thinking along the right track, looks like leaf septoria with those spots. You rattled off soil data but what about environment? What has RH been sitting at? Your defenses are going to be air filtration to remove spores, keeping the RH low so it's a less favorable environment, and you can throw in some UV-B lights that kill spores.

Leaf posture looks to me like the soil isn't being given proper drybacks, being left too moist. Could be a secondary danger of fusarium if not corrected.

So, looks to me like you do have some water problems going on, just affecting your grow a little more differently with the presence of rot pathogens.

You're thinking along the right track, looks like leaf septoria with those spots. You rattled off soil data but what about environment? What has RH been sitting at? Your defenses are going to be air filtration to remove spores, keeping the RH low so it's a less favorable environment, and you can throw in some UV-B lights that kill spores.

Leaf posture looks to me like the soil isn't being given proper drybacks, being left too moist. Could be a secondary danger of fusarium if not corrected.

So, looks to me like you do have some water problems going on, just affecting your grow a little more differently with the presence of rot pathogens.

so necessarily how do I fix it my RH drops to 30 but it hovers back-and-forth between 40 and 30 right now and probably for the last 2 to 3 weeks I had a humidifier but it’s been leaking to have it picked up a new one yet but yeah, I’m honestly thinking about scrapping all these plants cause they’re just really pissing me off at this point lol but I just don’t know I didn’t give them water for like a week or eight days kind of wet people were telling me to do in my last post. Don’t give them water almost till they’re wilting when I gave them water they started perking back up and they look decent. The color really wasn’t coming back or nothing which I get because it was the first time they even perked up in a while but then the spots just kept forming it’s so weird dude I’ve never had this so it’s only like my fourth grow but this is like my 30th plant. And I’ve had deficiency’s I took a Hawaii trip. It was gone for like nine days in my plan didn’t looked that bad. Frustrating but I appreciate all the feedback.

 

[Captspaulding]

Def some fungal popping up there.
Is it the only leaf showing it? Was it lower growth with leaves resting on it?
Looks like a really damp environment issue.

 

[WinJr63]

(nitrogen toxicity) possibility, what about oxygen, I would stick my hands down in the soil of each plant and feel , fluff up the soil. To get a better idea of your soils moisture.

 

[Captspaulding]

(nitrogen toxicity) possibility, what about oxygen, I would stick my hands down in the soil of each plant and feel , fluff up the soil. To get a better idea of your soils moisture.

Not nitro tox at all.
Here’s nitro tox
Dark color
Waxy surface.
Inward curling of leaf mass
Clawing downward leaf tips.

 

[WinJr63]

Oh WOW! that's kinda wicked looking , watch out im going to grab you

Ok thanks, what about the oxygen thing ? maybe lay plant down carefully and pullout check bottom roots? soil ?

 

[Captspaulding]

Yeah man. if you pull out the Root ball from the pot, if you have any funny business down there, it’ll smell like death because root rot leads to Septoria.
So if you have really stinky roots, when you pull that root ball out of the pot, then you’ll know that it’s either Septoria and fungal or it’s an anomaly caused by something you might have missed like a couple of leaves laying on top of each other for too long while transpiration occurred over a few nights, and it caused some fungus.
But also a alongside pulling the Rootball to check for any gnarliness you need to go over your plants and make sure that there’s no more of those spots popping up anywhere else, you shouldn’t water your plants until the Root ball mass feels like the equivalent of Styrofoam like just imagine you’re holding a Styrofoam ball that is the equivalent size of a 3 gallon pot for example don’t water again until your pot feels that way if you can guesstimate what I’m tossing out here a plant will get that light even before dry back wilting occurs so it’s a good way to know whether or not you need to water again. a lot of the time I’m watering every fourth day like clockwork and it’s a really good metric to go by cause it’s a wonderful happy medium and it’s basically just watering twice a week because a proper wet dry cycle is everything you gotta allow air to get to the roots you gotta allow the roots to eat and letting your plant dry back before you feed every time Is it a proper way to ensure that happens

 

[Ninjadogma]

Yeah man. if you pull out the Root ball from the pot, if you have any funny business down there, it’ll smell like death because root rot leads to Septoria.
So if you have really stinky roots, when you pull that root ball out of the pot, then you’ll know that it’s either Septoria and fungal or it’s an anomaly caused by something you might have missed like a couple of leaves laying on top of each other for too long while transpiration occurred over a few nights, and it caused some fungus.
But also a alongside pulling the Rootball to check for any gnarliness you need to go over your plants and make sure that there’s no more of those spots popping up anywhere else, you shouldn’t water your plants until the Root ball mass feels like the equivalent of Styrofoam like just imagine you’re holding a Styrofoam ball that is the equivalent size of a 3 gallon pot for example don’t water again until your pot feels that way if you can guesstimate what I’m tossing out here a plant will get that light even before dry back wilting occurs so it’s a good way to know whether or not you need to water again. a lot of the time I’m watering every fourth day like clockwork and it’s a really good metric to go by cause it’s a wonderful happy medium and it’s basically just watering twice a week because a proper wet dry cycle is everything you gotta allow air to get to the roots you gotta allow the roots to eat and letting your plant dry back before you feed every time Is it a proper way to ensure that happens

Amen to that. Outside in the elements unfortunately there's no rhythm whatsoever for container watering, might need it in two days, then might be 10 days before it needs more. So getting a feel for the weight of that thing tells you what you want to know, but there's also a caveat to that. You gotta remember to factor in the growing weight of the plant itself when you pick up them pots. That can throw you off if you are going by an actual scale weight.