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Winter in North East Ohio

This is parameters and safety concerns fed to AI. Then I refined it and asked it to recalculate. It's redneck tech and cheap and safe (except water leaks on the floor but you look ok for that. I don't know how I got this font but it's sex on screen. The...
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This is parameters and safety concerns fed to AI. Then I refined it and asked it to recalculate. It's redneck tech and cheap and safe (except water leaks on the floor but you look ok for that. I don't know how I got this font but it's sex on screen.

The ā€œDual Open-Tank Gravity Loopā€


(Boiler → Shed Tank → Return Dump → Back Into Boiler)


This is basically a continuous gravity-fed thermosiphon with open top vessels, which is the safest possible configuration. Everything breathes. Everything vents. Everything dumps.


1) Outdoor Boil Kettle (Open Pot)


  • This is your heat source.
  • Water can be heated to near-boil or full boil — totally fine, because it's OPEN.
  • At the top rim (or just below it), mount a spillway/outflow pipe.

When the water heats and expands, it’ll rise up and spill into the outflow pipe.


No pressure ever forms because it’s literally dumping.




2) Hot Water Free-Dump Into Shed Tank


Your shed tank is also open-top or vented.


  • The hot water from the kettle outflow pipe enters the top of this tank.
  • The tank warms up and radiates heat into the shed.
  • This is your heat battery.

This tank can be steel, stainless, an old water heater with the top cut open, whatever — as long as it’s open.




3) Gravity Out the Bottom of Shed Tank


At the bottom of the shed tank, install a drain/outflow that just drops into your return line.


  • No pump required if the shed tank is higher than the kettle.
  • If not higher, small pump can be used — but not required for the basic idea.

As the shed tank fills from the top, water automatically leaves the bottom.




4) Return Line Free-Dumps Back Into Boil Kettle


Final step:


  • Return line simply dumps back into the open kettle.
  • No valves needed.
  • No pressure risk.
  • If it freezes, it’ll unfreeze and be fine.
  • If it leaks, who cares — you’re outdoors.

You’ve now created a continuous open hydraulic loop.




Does It Circulate?


YES — here’s why:


Hot → Rises → Spills to Shed​


Water heated in the kettle expands and rises up the spillway into the shed tank.


Shed Tank → Gravity → Returns​


Cold water at the bottom of the shed tank is denser and drops down the return line into the kettle.


Kettle Warm-Up → Repeat​


The system stabilizes into a natural circulating thermosiphon with no pressure.




Key Rules So It Works Smoothly


Not complicated, but important:


āœ”ļø Shed tank must be higher than the kettle​


Even a foot or two is enough.


āœ”ļø All outflows must be open to air​


No caps. No check valves. No anything that traps pressure.


āœ”ļø Outflow from kettle should be near the top​


So it only dumps once the water is hot and expanded.


āœ”ļø Return line must dump into kettle ABOVE coil height​


You don’t want cold water shocking the coil inlet directly.


āœ”ļø All pipes should slope consistently​


Hot line slopes upward.
Cold line slopes downward.
No dips. No pockets.




This System Is Basically:


  • A wood-fired samovar
  • Feeding a passive radiator tank
  • With gravity return
  • All open-air
  • Totally bombproof
  • Legal in any era except the Geneva Convention for being too cozy



If you want, I can draw (ASCII or described) a simple diagram, or give you an upgraded version with:


  • Two radiators
  • Cast-iron baseboard
  • Finned tubes for more heat
  • An optional safety overflow
  • Or a /k/-style greentext build guide
Great idea......the weak link would to be up 24/7 to keep the wood stoked to fire to keep the water boiling....also you would get some loss of water sp would have to fill tank so that it could boil over.
 
I see you are going to be getting some of this upcoming severe cold. So I hope whatever you do it's done by this weekend. Even if it's just sealing up those holes.
I have my problem solved....
Top....down
Calamonsi tent...Black Lebanese
Sexing tent #1....Punta Rojo #1
Seeing tent #2....Punta Rojo #2
Cave
 

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What I did was put the tent heater inside the tent. Sooo....the heater draws are from inside and blows heated air inside....no more sucking in 13 degree air to make a 50 degree tent. I have the heaters set to 75 degrees. My next issue is the humidity....the humidifiers are to show up today.....yipeeee....
 
What I did was put the tent heater inside the tent. Sooo....the heater draws are from inside and blows heated air inside....no more sucking in 13 degree air to make a 50 degree tent. I have the heaters set to 75 degrees. My next issue is the humidity....the humidifiers are to show up today.....yipeeee....
Looks like you’re close to 50% rh what are you aiming for?
 
Akron area, here. Your a brave sole for growing at this time....in Ohio.

What are your soil temps, in this set up. That's my concern with trying to use my shed. I can achieve 70° ambient temp, but the floor is too cold for root development. ( Knees down)

If my wife passes away, I won't have to hear her bitch about using the spare bedroom as a grow room. Though if I get another male this spring, I may put him in there to gain some pollen, instead of the trash can. šŸ˜†
 
Akron area, here. Your a brave sole for growing at this time....in Ohio.

What are your soil temps, in this set up. That's my concern with trying to use my shed. I can achieve 70° ambient temp, but the floor is too cold for root development. ( Knees down)

If my wife passes away, I won't have to hear her bitch about using the spare bedroom as a grow room. Though if I get another male this spring, I may put him in there to gain some pollen, instead of the trash can. šŸ˜†
I have an out building I keep heated. That's not the problem.....šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚ I just got these damn landrace...got to get them sexed...will do that in tents in my semi enclosed tents....once I get them sexed..
Blood Haze and Punta Rojo....I will get them back inside the heated building.
 
Akron area, here. Your a brave sole for growing at this time....in Ohio.

What are your soil temps, in this set up. That's my concern with trying to use my shed. I can achieve 70° ambient temp, but the floor is too cold for root development. ( Knees down)

If my wife passes away, I won't have to hear her bitch about using the spare bedroom as a grow room. Though if I get another male this spring, I may put him in there to gain some pollen, instead of the trash can. šŸ˜†
I keep my weed out of the house, out of respect for my wife. She is okay with me growing it now that it's legal in Ohio. I just keep the smell, bugs and the mess in my cave (16'x 16' Amish built shed/barn/cave) and my old enclosed hot tub area. I got tired of the hot tub (cost of repair) so I sold it and converted it into a outside semi enclosed smoke room....which is now taking up my overflow from grow house. Come spring I will enclosed it...and set up more tents...šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚
 
Are y pulling my legšŸ˜‚ I know they are an ancient tech but they still work quite well especially in the cold and they cheap to buy maybe get 1 hps light for one tent and compare? If ya wasn’t pulling my leg they are high pressure sodium lights kick out heaps of heatšŸ˜‚šŸ‘
I wasn't pulling your leg...no worries. I've only researched and used LED lights. Now that you mentioned it... there are some people I know.....back in the day they followed the Greatful Dead.....old hippies...
I remember them talking about those lights...šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¬
 
A youngster in our midst. LOL
......partied like a rock star. I was at the Hotel California Tour in Cleveland, many a World Series of Rock, seen The Who, Pink Floyd Animals Tour at the Cleveland Stadium....David Bowie....Sweet....Eric Carmen. Then joined the Navy in 1981 and did 40 years of federal servive....now its back to parting like a Rockstar. So growing weed in the 60's and 70's....was outside....and had a shit load of seeds. Bought a half a kilo....was a kilo cut in half...was wrapped in blue-green paper....had 2.2 lbs in parenthesis....and the word kilo stamped on paper. Oh the days....šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚...Columbian Red Bud, Mexican Creeper weed....good stuff.
 
I wasn't pulling your leg...no worries. I've only researched and used LED lights. Now that you mentioned it... there are some people I know.....back in the day they followed the Greatful Dead.....old hippies...
I remember them talking about those lights...šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¬
šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I’m only 43 mate the Dead were finished when I was 12 when Garcia died so a touch before my time but I have always got along with the older generation better than my own would of loved to be in Gnicks van following em around doin acid smoking ganja sounds like good timesšŸ˜‚šŸ‘
 
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