Fungus or trichomes please help me diagnose this ASAP

[njl627]

 

[ChairmanFester]

Branching is nice, structure it there... it all looks like dialing in environment will stop mold. I guess the next one is gotta be half a pound by your projection so we'll see how next round goes.

 

[Greenadian]

Have you treated your plant with the milk mixture to combat the Powdery Mildew?
Do you find its still growing and gaining weight?

 

[OldManHulk]

Have you treated your plant with the milk mixture to combat the Powdery Mildew?
Do you find its still growing and gaining weight?

Please stop using milk folks.. UNLESS it is literally all you have.. trust me.. been there and done this many times.. I know the internet is filled with genius ideas lol but I literally follow an SOP in my home garden I have developed over the years.

Please just use h202, You can literally use the off the shelf 3% right into a foliar or mix with some water to bring it down to 2% but your fine at 3% (better actually for combating it vs preventative) But literally spray with the water and h202 it kills the spores within 30 seconds and it evaporates into NOTHING with no residue or taste or smell left. AND, it gives a bonus little oxygen bump on them leaves lol...

If you want to go a step further, pro level I would say. We use peracetic acid, which is $60+ a gallon OR make it at home for pennies ;)
1 gallon of plain ol walmart 5% acetic acid vinegar (its basic vinegar). dump 3.3ozof the vinegar out and add 3.3oz of 12% h202, available at amazon $20 ish and youll make gallons and gallons of the Zerotol HC that is a godsend!! Mix it and let it sit for 24hrs and there you have the EXACT recipe of Zerotol HC and you will no longer have PM again, and the PAA (peracetic acid) goes into the stem,, basically a systemic level of eradication...

Let me know if you have ??s

 

[cpurola]

Please stop using milk folks.. UNLESS it is literally all you have.. trust me.. been there and done this many times.. I know the internet is filled with genius ideas lol but I literally follow an SOP in my home garden I have developed over the years.

Please just use h202, You can literally use the off the shelf 3% right into a foliar or mix with some water to bring it down to 2% but your fine at 3% (better actually for combating it vs preventative) But literally spray with the water and h202 it kills the spores within 30 seconds and it evaporates into NOTHING with no residue or taste or smell left. AND, it gives a bonus little oxygen bump on them leaves lol...

If you want to go a step further, pro level I would say. We use peracetic acid, which is $60+ a gallon OR make it at home for pennies ;)
1 gallon of plain ol walmart 5% acetic acid vinegar (its basic vinegar). dump 3.3ozof the vinegar out and add 3.3oz of 12% h202, available at amazon $20 ish and youll make gallons and gallons of the Zerotol HC that is a godsend!! Mix it and let it sit for 24hrs and there you have the EXACT recipe of Zerotol HC and you will no longer have PM again, and the PAA (peracetic acid) goes into the stem,, basically a systemic level of eradication...

Let me know if you have ??s

How often should I spray? And do I cover the soil? Thank you.

 

[ChairmanFester]

Please stop using milk folks.. UNLESS it is literally all you have.. trust me.. been there and done this many times.. I know the internet is filled with genius ideas lol but I literally follow an SOP in my home garden I have developed over the years.

Please just use h202, You can literally use the off the shelf 3% right into a foliar or mix with some water to bring it down to 2% but your fine at 3% (better actually for combating it vs preventative) But literally spray with the water and h202 it kills the spores within 30 seconds and it evaporates into NOTHING with no residue or taste or smell left. AND, it gives a bonus little oxygen bump on them leaves lol...

If you want to go a step further, pro level I would say. We use peracetic acid, which is $60+ a gallon OR make it at home for pennies ;)
1 gallon of plain ol walmart 5% acetic acid vinegar (its basic vinegar). dump 3.3ozof the vinegar out and add 3.3oz of 12% h202, available at amazon $20 ish and youll make gallons and gallons of the Zerotol HC that is a godsend!! Mix it and let it sit for 24hrs and there you have the EXACT recipe of Zerotol HC and you will no longer have PM again, and the PAA (peracetic acid) goes into the stem,, basically a systemic level of eradication...

Let me know if you have ??s

I bet I do a couple of things that horrify you lol.

 

[OldManHulk]

How often should I spray? And do I cover the soil? Thank you.

DO it ASAP, don't wait for the lights out routine when it comes to PM as waiting lets it grow more. You can dim the lights for a bit and crank fans while doing this and a dehumidifier if deep in flower. I personally soak it like a rain fall if I have been slacking as life happens (@ChairmanFester lol we are all human).. it takes about 25 min for me to have it almost dried off and you will see a night and day difference. I then do it again at night but lighter mist but still thorough... after that it is maintenance. When I am listening to my own advice lol, I spray at least once a week But my SOP has me doing so EVERY Sunday and Wednesday regardless.. soon I will be adding a ULV cool mist fogger so i can hit a button and walk away but this is all a reinvestment, I am self made and built over years with lots of trial and error :)

YES you can def hit the soil, as h202 is literally just water with an extra Oxygen molecule (its a weak bond too btw for fellow geeks in here) and your roots will love you, BUT if you use microbes just keep it limited to the top "misting" of soil as to kill any fallen PM spores etc and not to kill your microbes/living soil.. That extra oxygen molecule has a weak bond like I mentioned so it likes to jump ship to a new host and that is what kills the bad stuff we want gone....

I also go a bit further, I use UVC at night as well the same night I spray for preventative reasons, I use the cleanlight pro.. its a strong UVC wand. Since I am flowering in a 10x10 room and veg in a 4x8 and clone in a 2x4 it is really enough for me..

I bet I do a couple of things that horrify you lol.

I will be the first on the list myself lol.. its easy giving advice but listening to yourself and trying to always perfect the craft leads a shit ton of ups n downs .. believe me I have stories and I am getting more active here finally .. my wife tells me i need a youtube channel and sponsors lol but then I always have to be on point

 

[cpurola]

DO it ASAP, don't wait for the lights out routine when it comes to PM as waiting lets it grow more. You can dim the lights for a bit and crank fans while doing this and a dehumidifier if deep in flower. I personally soak it like a rain fall if I have been slacking as life happens (@ChairmanFester lol we are all human).. it takes about 25 min for me to have it almost dried off and you will see a night and day difference. I then do it again at night but lighter mist but still thorough... after that it is maintenance. When I am listening to my own advice lol, I spray at least once a week But my SOP has me doing so EVERY Sunday and Wednesday regardless.. soon I will be adding a ULV cool mist fogger so i can hit a button and walk away but this is all a reinvestment, I am self made and built over years with lots of trial and error :)

YES you can def hit the soil, as h202 is literally just water with an extra Oxygen molecule (its a weak bond too btw for fellow geeks in here) and your roots will love you, BUT if you use microbes just keep it limited to the top "misting" of soil as to kill any fallen PM spores etc and not to kill your microbes/living soil.. That extra oxygen molecule has a weak bond like I mentioned so it likes to jump ship to a new host and that is what kills the bad stuff we want gone....

I also go a bit further, I use UVC at night as well the same night I spray for preventative reasons, I use the cleanlight pro.. its a strong UVC wand. Since I am flowering in a 10x10 room and veg in a 4x8 and clone in a 2x4 it is really enough for me..

I will be the first on the list myself lol.. its easy giving advice but listening to yourself and trying to always perfect the craft leads a shit ton of ups n downs .. believe me I have stories and I am getting more active here finally .. my wife tells me i need a youtube channel and sponsors lol but then I always have to be on point

So, how do you use the wand? Have you seen it eradicate PM, or do you have to use it regularly?

 

[OldManHulk]

So, how do you use the wand? Have you seen it eradicate PM, or do you have to use it regularly?

but the h202 is a 30 second fix: ..

My adhd/ocd stoner ass likes to cover all bases... I "used" to be paranoid lol

 

[cpurola]

Thank you. So, he said it had to be used daily to prevent as well as treat. Have you seen this happen?

 

[OldManHulk]

Thank you. So, he said it had to be used daily to prevent as well as treat. Have you seen this happen?

What am I missing here...who is "he"? and what is "it" that your suggested to use daily? I think i missed something in the thread can you fill me in

 

[ChairmanFester]

DO

There is no obligation to make sense to other people.

 

[OldManHulk]

What am I missing here...who is "he"? and what is "it" that your suggested to use daily? I think i missed something in the thread can you fill me in

There is no obligation to make sense to other people.

LOL .. I am confused if he is talking about the guy in the UVC light video or the Ai he was mentioning in the beginning.. that's why I had to ask lol .. and @cpurola , do you have access to UVC?

 

[GNick55]

So, how do you use the wand? Have you seen it eradicate PM, or do you have to use it regularly?

nothing kills it, you’ll be spraying a couple times a week,.. because of the infection it’ll affect yield, taste, high,..

 

[OldManHulk]

nothing kills it, you’ll be spraying a couple times a week,.. because of the infection it’ll affect yield, taste, high,..

Spraying a few times a week? You need to try some peracetic acid and your life will be changed forever.. Just make a bit to try for yourself if you ever need.. no taste effect here either as it literally breaks down to water+oxygen. the UVC also does not alter taste. Now IPMs on the market out there, the neems, the peppermint oils etc etc they WILL alter those buds and leave a residue and they just suck.. But nature simplest ingredients can and are the way to go here..

I don't do bro math either, I have horrible ADHD/OCD that makes me go down rabbit holes and what I state is from peer reviewed articles.. Specific crops were tested first such as cucumbers, strawberries, grapes etc down the line until it came time to study the Cannabis market. A one time application of the peracetic acid kept 90% of the PM at bay .. The other subjects were then sprayed at diff periods, some a week some ten days from what I recall.. and those other sample groups all finished 98+% clean from ALL spores etc... then there is that final wash.. the lovely 3 bucket system.. but if you use h2o2 in the first bucket it will get the surface stuff,, if you use peracetic acid in place of the h202 in bucket one then the acid actully penetrates the cell membranes making it a systemic purge. putting you in that 99.99% clean club ( I will agree it next to impossible to completely irradicate but at these levels its considered g2G on any level) , then of course the baking soda lemon juice 2nd bucket for the surface clean and ph balance, (gives a smoooth clean white ash when burnt) and the third and some people (adha ones I can vouch may use a 4th for no good reason at all other than it doesn't hurt lol. I personally use ice cold RO and Thank the Growing Gods and some really smart people passing this stuff along has gotten me here..

 

[cpurola]

Sorry I didn't get back to answer right away, real life sometimes gets in the way of my farm fun.

The video you posted showed the UVC wand and how they use it. They recommended using it every day. For an indoor grow I suppose it would make sense, but outdoor would take hours.

And I looked up Zerotol on Arbico's website and the instructions say to spray every 5-10 days as a preventative, but as a curative it needs to be sprayed every 3-5 days. How does that compare to your experience?

 

[OldManHulk]

Sorry I didn't get back to answer right away, real life sometimes gets in the way of my farm fun.

The video you posted showed the UVC wand and how they use it. They recommended using it every day. For an indoor grow I suppose it would make sense, but outdoor would take hours.

And I looked up Zerotol on Arbico's website and the instructions say to spray every 5-10 days as a preventative, but as a curative it needs to be sprayed every 3-5 days. How does that compare to your experience?

That’s pretty close to what I experienced as well. The first 3–5 days are your damage-control phase at a higher concentration, and then—just like the studies showed—once a week or once every ten days is enough for the preventative portion. It’s the “why not spray it just to be safe” mentality: being proactive rather than reactive.


You’ll find growers on both sides of that spectrum—those who are proactive and those who are reactive. The latter, in my opinion, usually comes down to experience. You don’t know what you don’t know. For many growers, being reactive happens the first time or two they run into garden issues, and hopefully they turn into proactive gardeners afterward. Like anything else, you get out what you put in.


What really matters is realizing that the value of what comes out is directly correlated to what you put in—chemically, organically, financially, and especially time-wise. Sometimes, it’s simply not worth the grow.


For example, that flower you have may end up being a 2 oz dry harvest—and honestly, to my eye it looks closer to 1 oz. That’s not a diss at all; that’s a great job. Hopefully, you learned a lot, because I’m sure you spent more than what that ounce would have cost from a store or a buddy. The tent, materials, nutrients, lights, electricity, time, and energy all add up.


But now you take that knowledge—because the first few grows are really for learning, and the product is just the bonus—and apply it to the next run. On your second grow, maybe you hit 2+ oz, then half a pound on the third, and so on.

 

[cpurola]

That’s pretty close to what I experienced as well. The first 3–5 days are your damage-control phase at a higher concentration, and then—just like the studies showed—once a week or once every ten days is enough for the preventative portion. It’s the “why not spray it just to be safe” mentality: being proactive rather than reactive.


You’ll find growers on both sides of that spectrum—those who are proactive and those who are reactive. The latter, in my opinion, usually comes down to experience. You don’t know what you don’t know. For many growers, being reactive happens the first time or two they run into garden issues, and hopefully they turn into proactive gardeners afterward. Like anything else, you get out what you put in.


What really matters is realizing that the value of what comes out is directly correlated to what you put in—chemically, organically, financially, and especially time-wise. Sometimes, it’s simply not worth the grow.


For example, that flower you have may end up being a 2 oz dry harvest—and honestly, to my eye it looks closer to 1 oz. That’s not a diss at all; that’s a great job. Hopefully, you learned a lot, because I’m sure you spent more than what that ounce would have cost from a store or a buddy. The tent, materials, nutrients, lights, electricity, time, and energy all add up.


But now you take that knowledge—because the first few grows are really for learning, and the product is just the bonus—and apply it to the next run. On your second grow, maybe you hit 2+ oz, then half a pound on the third, and so on.

Do you grow outdoors?

 

[OldManHulk]

Do you grow outdoors?

Weather Permitting I am up North in the States :)

 

[cpurola]

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Weather Permitting I am up North in the States :)

I'm in Southeast Michigan and am having a terrible time with Septoria the last 2 years. I tried spraying all my 'trees' and it took 6 gallons and an hour to do them all. We don't really need all the weed so I stopped and the disease took almost everything down. I'm planning on switching to Autos and a few photos this coming season.

Love your greenhouse BTW. Do you have any problems growing in it?