Log In Register

Cpurola's first indoor grow, alot to learn.

  • Thread starter Thread starter cpurola
  • Start date Start date
  • Tagged users Tagged users None

Cpurola's first indoor grow, alot to learn.

cpurola 1,795 Replies 118,679 Views
Page 41 of 90 · Replies 801–820 of 1,796
You are very kind and yes, early. LOL
And I won't mention 'that word' again. 🤣
And BTW, you have yourself a paper bag full of joy, don't you? 😉
Yea I do I’ve started jarring it up now see how the humidity holds up I’m hoping I’ve hit the sweet spot of 55-60 I will know once it’s been sitting for an hr or 2👍
 
I remember my Mom telling me she watched my Grandma (Dad's mom and old country all the way) grab one of her chickens by the neck and wring it, then chop the head off without a backward glance.
Mom was a city girl and was horrified. LOL
I hang them upside down in a restraining cone for a minute or two it calms them, then slit their throats. It's the "Cone of no tomorrow".
 
One of the things I have found out about cannabis is that for all intents and purposes the vegetation leaves and the flower appear to be an entire different plant with its own pipeline to nutrition. The flowers have the ability to draw mobile nutrients from the vegetation but the reverse is not true.
I have produced some totally ugly ass weed plants. How this does not get into the flowers is beyond me. It's like the final 6 weeks of the grow is like a parasite killing the host in order to propagate the species.
 
One of the things I have found out about cannabis is that for all intents and purposes the vegetation leaves and the flower appear to be an entire different plant with its own pipeline to nutrition. The flowers have the ability to draw mobile nutrients from the vegetation but the reverse is not true.
I have produced some totally ugly ass weed plants. How this does not get into the flowers is beyond me. It's like the final 6 weeks of the grow is like a parasite killing the host in order to propagate the species.
Fascinating. At what point do you think this transition happens?
 
Thank you! That makes alot of sense. JIMKSI64 says he reduces the intensity of the lights before harvesting, and has found it helpful.
Maybe his benefits are from the temp drop that comes with lowering the intensity. I honestly haven't done enough homework to speak confidently about it.
 
Thank you! That makes alot of sense. JIMKSI64 says he reduces the intensity of the lights before harvesting, and has found it helpful.
I haven't tried doing dark for days to be completely honest, I reduce the plants ppfd at the tops slowly in the last ten days in 5% increments of light intensity while I am watering to 15% - 20% run off with ph balanced ro water for a timed flush lowering my ec and ppms down and letting the plant eat up the last of my nitrogen stored in the leaves. I will only feed @400-600 ppms of just pk boosters during the first three days of flush. I keep seeing all these grows where people are just letting the plant sit for three days in the dark. I almost forgot to say I don't water the last 4 days before harvested. So in total my last two weeks is for getting ready for harvest. I will harvest halfway through lights on. I have always had amazing terpene and trichomes. I just took down the sherbet cream pie x blue nerds plant and it's hanging in in my utility room because my drybox is stuffed to the brim already. I'm sure @JIMKSI64 grows would match up closer to what you are doing. I haven't done a live soil grow indoors since about 2014 lol or used soil as my medium for indoors since. The video was cool to see. For curing that's a whole nother post I'm too lazy to do rn
 
Bugbee does seems to think temperature is important. And that makes sense, 'cause terpines are very volatile.
He also suggests that continuing photosynthesis to harvest will impact yield positively. No light, no photosynthesis. But it would be a cool experiment if you can control the variables and test the end result with vs without complete darkness. Interestingly there was research looking at going with 13 hours light instead of 12 at the flip. Guess what that result showed in that case. Just an added hour of photosynthesis every day through the flowering period increased cannabinoids and yield. And did not affect the flip. So much to learn...like autos continuing to grow for a second harvest. Shall I try for a third....maybe 😉.
 
Bugbee does seems to think temperature is important. And that makes sense, 'cause terpines are very volatile.
I use different temperatures through out the grow. Keeping my day and night within a 15°f of difference. Towards the end, with the light intensity decreased will lower temps and it helps more of your colors become prominent as well as I have personally seen higher trichome production through the temperature decrease during the last two weeks as well as a beautiful fade. That's just my experiences though.
 
He also suggests that continuing photosynthesis to harvest will impact yield positively. No light, no photosynthesis. But it would be a cool experiment if you can control the variables and test the end result with vs without complete darkness. Interestingly there was research looking at going with 13 hours light instead of 12 at the flip. Guess what that result showed in that case. Just an added hour of photosynthesis every day through the flowering period increased cannabinoids and yield. And did not affect the flip. So much to learn...like autos continuing to grow for a second harvest. Shall I try for a third....maybe 😉.
some university did start of flower 14h end of flower 8h but overall same amount of hours as when you would do 12 whole grow.and they had same dry weight but huge difference in terpines
 
some university did start of flower 14h end of flower 8h but overall same amount of hours as when you would do 12 whole grow.and they had same dry weight but huge difference in terpines
I'd be interested in reading that study.
 
Found an interesting study in my google searching.
Moving away from 12:12

Hours study
 
Found an interesting study in my google searching.
Moving away from 12:12

View attachment 2583561
Yes and as they state and we can see in the graph, it was different in varying cultivars. There is another that did the same but looked at trichome density, deformation, detachment. Between fiber, seeds, oil, and medicine this is a very remarkable plant and a staple of human kind. It's a very interesting plant.
 

"Incredible Milk’ (IM) and ‘Gorilla Glue’ (GG), were grown to commercial maturity at a canopy level PPFD of 540 µmol·m−2·s−1 from white LEDS under 12 h or 13 h daily photoperiods, resulting in DLIs of 23.8 and 25.7 mol·m−2·d−1, respectively."

"The inflorescence yields were strikingly higher in the 13 h vs. 12 h treatment, i.e., 1.35 times and 1.50 times higher in IM and GG, respectively, which is 4 to 6 times higher than the relative increase in DLIs. The inflorescence concentrations of major cannabinoids in the 13 h treatment were either higher or not different from the 12 h"

Cannabinoids increased only in IM to a level reaching statistical significance (P=.05) under 13 hr light. But trended upward in GG as well. Dry weight of bud significantly increased in both.
1767103089693

1767103313696
 

"Incredible Milk’ (IM) and ‘Gorilla Glue’ (GG), were grown to commercial maturity at a canopy level PPFD of 540 µmol·m−2·s−1 from white LEDS under 12 h or 13 h daily photoperiods, resulting in DLIs of 23.8 and 25.7 mol·m−2·d−1, respectively."

"The inflorescence yields were strikingly higher in the 13 h vs. 12 h treatment, i.e., 1.35 times and 1.50 times higher in IM and GG, respectively, which is 4 to 6 times higher than the relative increase in DLIs. The inflorescence concentrations of major cannabinoids in the 13 h treatment were either higher or not different from the 12 h"

Cannabinoids increased only in IM to a level reaching statistical significance (P=.05) under 13 hr light. But trended upward in GG as well. Dry weight of bud significantly increased in both.
View attachment 2583573
View attachment 2583576
Ummm wait.
I have researched those and a DLI at those ranges is way sub optimal for those strains.
You start with a sub optimal DLI and increase it and are surprised at an improvement?
 
Ummm wait.
I have researched those and a DLI at those ranges is way sub optimal for those strains.
Is that published? What was the optimal DLI for those strains?
You start with a sub optimal DLI and increase it and are surprised at an improvement?
Then try your own experiment under what you consider to be optimal lighting for these strains. See if you get an improvement or not.
 
Page 41 of 90 · Replies 801–820 of 1,796
Back
Top Bottom