THE TRAINWRECK. Brought to you by thcfarrmer…..

[trygrowup]

Quick question:

Does 800 ppm fertilizer in water sounds like a lot or little on the 500 scale?

 

[expat]

I haven't hit any significant age markers yet. So far I'm enjoying aging honestly. I'm fiddy now and I feel a lot better than I did at 40 and at 30. I have been more consistent with exercise though and I don't live in Scandinavia anymore which helps a ton. Both food and climate in this part of Europe is better on the body.
Typical western diet and lifestyle made me a mess to a point where I didn't even realize it. Cataract surgery at 42, knee replacements left when I was 44 and right when I was 46, spine messed up, my liver failed and I had to cope with that and I slept like 3 hours a night.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Not on the same level as your hilarious posts but... LOL

"Aaaaaa.... It's George! He's taking it with him!"

View attachment 2615048

Reminds me of a guy a few years ago that got buried with his Harley. It was creepy AF. They taxidermied his ass onto the seat of that bike holding the handlebars, encased him in glass and buried the whole thing. Imagine the kick some future archeologist is going to get digging THAT up!

 

[TerpBeans]

Well shit man......glad you better at 50

 

[Ninjadogma]

You need to put a recipe in the recipe thread because this sounds like something I want to do. The possibilities are endless. https://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/cannabis-recipes.14/

Exactly the same as infusing into coconut oil. Just use heavy whipping cream instead. Leave the pulp in. If you want it in a drink (hot chocolate) put some in a coffee filter and steep it in hot water to get the pulp out. If you're making ice cream you can leave the pulp.

Caution: consuming the pulp can lead to farts that smell like weed.

 

[Florida_Mike]

Quick question:

Does 800 ppm fertilizer in water sounds like a lot or little on the 500 scale?

It depends on what you're doing... In hydro I start clones at around 400 ppm and get up to 1200-1400 by the end of the 2nd week. I'm guessing t would be about the same in coco

 

[Hossgrows]

Looks like a dung beetle turd ball to my tired old eyes....

We call um..road apples. Amish grown and distributed freely along the roadsides to unwary travelers.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Quick question:

Does 800 ppm fertilizer in water sounds like a lot or little on the 500 scale?

When you've got 500 ppm being delivered in your tap water, it's not much but you have to factor it in with feedings if you have tap ppm. You can push a little higher for desired feedings, but not by much. I'll let it go to 2.0 to 2.2 with a mature vegging plant but the EC feed of it is only about 1.6... or roughly the same as the 800 ppm you're asking about.

The true answer is it depends on a few things, like the growth stage of the plant, what other EC "noise" you have to contend with, and even some environmental factors like light and supplemental CO2. For traditional values you are starting seedlings at 200 ppm (0.4 EC) and the highest value you should ever hit is 1400 (2.8 EC) at peak flower around week 6-7 and then backing it down. Those are traditional values, and when people are supplementing CO2 or putting a soil blend together that has kickass cation exchange, the values can go significantly higher.

 

[Hossgrows]

I haven't hit any significant age markers yet. So far I'm enjoying aging honestly. I'm fiddy now and I feel a lot better than I did at 40 and at 30. I have been more consistent with exercise though and I don't live in Scandinavia anymore which helps a ton. Both food and climate in this part of Europe is better on the body.
Typical western diet and lifestyle made me a mess to a point where I didn't even realize it. Cataract surgery at 42, knee replacements left when I was 44 and right when I was 46, spine messed up, my liver failed and I had to cope with that and I slept like 3 hours a night.

It's all down hill from here out, brother. Your entering the corrosive years. Things start leaking, and not working as it should. Before long, you'll wake up and everything will be stiff, but what used to be stiff, and you'll realize u can't trust a fart, or a sneeze.

Golden years.....depends on that.

 

[trygrowup]

It depends on what you're doing... In hydro I start clones at around 400 ppm and get up to 1200-1400 by the end of the 2nd week. I'm guessing t would be about the same in coco

When you've got 500 ppm being delivered in your tap water, it's not much but you have to factor it in with feedings if you have tap ppm. You can push a little higher for desired feedings, but not by much. I'll let it go to 2.0 to 2.2 with a mature vegging plant but the EC feed of it is only about 1.6... or roughly the same as the 800 ppm you're asking about.

The true answer is it depends on a few things, like the growth stage of the plant, what other EC "noise" you have to contend with, and even some environmental factors like light and supplemental CO2. For traditional values you are starting seedlings at 200 ppm (0.4 EC) and the highest value you should ever hit is 1400 (2.8 EC) at peak flower around week 6-7 and then backing it down. Those are traditional values, and when people are supplementing CO2 or putting a soil blend together that has kickass cation exchange, the values can go significantly higher.

Thanks yeah i know it's not possible to answer when i ask like that, but i can your the answers to get an idea.

And yes i figured that if my water is 400 + ppm then 800 with RO might be good for seedlings/veg in soil.

 

[Ninjadogma]

It's all down hill from here out, brother. Your entering the corrosive years. Things start leaking, and not working as it should. Before long, you'll wake up and everything will be stiff, but what used to be stiff, and you'll realize u can't trust a fart, or a sneeze.

Golden years.....depends on that.

The Corrosive Years... Fkn dying over that one. I just hit 60. For my 57th birthday I hopped on the scale and it said 280, I was recouping from a heavy bender and decided enough of this shit. Quit drinking, quit eating as much fast food, quit drinking soda, quit the Prozac, quit taking ibuprofen and decided to just smoke pot daily. I lost 100 lbs. I'm never out of breath anymore. I can see my dick again when I need to pee. Blood pressure is now the envy of guys in their 30's. I have a spring in my step again that I hadn't seen since my late 30's. The only thing Father Time is kicking my butt with is my eyes have gone to absolute shit.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Thanks yeah i know it's not possible to answer when i ask like that, but i can your the answers to get an idea.

And yes i figured that if my water is 400 + ppm then 800 with RO might be good for seedlings/veg in soil.

Well you gotta be careful there. Sounds like you're thinking you've got 400 ppm tap and you do 400 ppm feed you're putting 800 ppm in and if you use RO you can just do all 800 in feed and it doesn't really work that way. The tap EC is that EC Noise that gets in the way and you risk running a situation where the EC is okay but the feed is too strong. So instead of popping yellows, you get burnt tips and yellowing margins. Keep the feed the feed strength it should be. And keep an eye on the EC level it's being delivered with so that BOTH are in a safe range for the plant.

 

[trygrowup]

Well you gotta be careful there. Sounds like you're thinking you've got 400 ppm tap and you do 400 ppm feed you're putting 800 ppm in and if you use RO you can just do all 800 in feed and it doesn't really work that way. The tap EC is that EC Noise that gets in the way and you risk running a situation where the EC is okay but the feed is too strong. So instead of popping yellows, you get burnt tips and yellowing margins. Keep the feed the feed strength it should be. And keep an eye on the EC level it's being delivered with so that BOTH are in a safe range for the plant.

Ok i'll check for burnt tips and yellow margins. LoL i thought i could exchange the tap water ppm with my nutes. Thanks
I have been trying to check the internet and this forum but most is like 5 ml this and 3 ml that. I did find a scheme in amneziahaze tread and i used that to guess too.

Any suggestions on where to read about Ec because i havn't got to that part?

 

[Grownsince95]

Thanks yeah i know it's not possible to answer when i ask like that, but i can your the answers to get an idea.

And yes i figured that if my water is 400 + ppm then 800 with RO might be good for seedlings/veg in soil.

It still means your seedlings are getting 800 and that's too high. What kind of nutes are you using? Many brands have a feeding chart for hard water.

 

[Grownsince95]

Ok i'll check for burnt tips and yellow margins. LoL i thought i could exchange the tap water ppm with my nutes. Thanks
I have been trying to check the internet and this forum but most is like 5 ml this and 3 ml that. I did find a scheme in amneziahaze tread and i used that to guess too.

Any suggestions on where to read about Ec because i havn't got to that part?

What part of understanding EC is giving you trouble, how to dose your nutes?

 

[Hossgrows]

The Corrosive Years... Fkn dying over that one. I just hit 60. For my 57th birthday I hopped on the scale and it said 280, I was recouping from a heavy bender and decided enough of this shit. Quit drinking, quit eating as much fast food, quit drinking soda, quit the Prozac, quit taking ibuprofen and decided to just smoke pot daily. I lost 100 lbs. I'm never out of breath anymore. I can see my dick again when I need to pee. Blood pressure is now the envy of guys in their 30's. I have a spring in my step again that I hadn't seen since my late 30's. The only thing Father Time is kicking my butt with is my eyes have gone to absolute shit.

I've been thru the wringer myself.
I'm 57. 1st heart attack at 47, 2nd heart attack at 52. Adverse reactions to all known cholesterol meds. , advanced spinal stenosis.

One of the meds I was on from 1st attack caused me to become diabetic, didn't know until my 2nd attack, and had put on a lot of weight in 5 years, lost my teeth because of it, too.

Lost 100#, was taken off insulin in less than 90 days, and stopped taking all meds for diabetes myself.
Blood tests are always good, I can and do eat sweets and things I did before the diagnosis. And they keep saying....once your diabetic, your always diabetic. BS. Your drugs induced it, I was just lucky enough it was caught before more damage was done. Fuckers.!!

Hell, they had me on 7 different meds for my blood pressure, I've eliminated 3 of um.

 

[Ninjadogma]

What part of understanding EC is giving you trouble, how to dose your nutes?

Over time I've sort of picked up a "Kentucky windage" as to how far I can push that background EC and feed before they start fussing and there's going to be a lot of variance between tap and sources. My best advice for learning this is grow some disposables and go ahead and explore your red lines and collect every bit of data you can. I can't think of a better situation where you get hands on learning experience without penalty... Or should I say you're already factoring in, as Elon Musk would say, possibility of a "rapid unexpected disassembly."

You folks using RO can probably skip this whole read. Sorry I shudda led with that

 

[trygrowup]

It still means your seedlings are getting 800 and that's too high. What kind of nutes are you using? Many brands have a feeding chart for hard water.

I mix my own. I use kelp, guano, wood ash, Biogrow and some regular organic npk.
I mix them to get 4 different.
3-1-2 veg
2-1-2 early bloom
1-1-2 mid bloom
0-1-2 late bloom

What part of understanding EC is giving you trouble, how to dose your nutes?

The whole part. Thats why i want to read about it and then ask what i don't understand

 

[expat]

I'm following you guys closely. I never understood EC, been winging it all my life.

 

[Florida_Mike]

Ok i'll check for burnt tips and yellow margins. LoL i thought i could exchange the tap water ppm with my nutes. Thanks
I have been trying to check the internet and this forum but most is like 5 ml this and 3 ml that. I did find a scheme in amneziahaze tread and i used that to guess too.

Any suggestions on where to read about Ec because i havn't got to that part?

EC, or electrical conductivity, is what you are actually measuring with an EC/TDS pen. Pure water is not very electrically conductive, but when you add nutrient salts, it becomes conductive. The meter measures how easily electricity moves between the two probe contacts.

PPM, or parts per million, is an estimate of the dissolved solids in solution based on the EC reading. It is simply the EC multiplied by either 500 or 700, depending on the conversion scale being used. So an EC of 1.0 would read as 500 ppm on the 500 scale, while an EC of 2.0 would read as 1,000 ppm.