Need Help With CLONES!! 🙏 Pretty Please 🙏

[jamesmessenger1]

Trying to fill the net!! I’m kind of impressed with the growth rate of these clones!

I didn’t know that it matters what kind of mother they came from, and these were from a Gen 1 tissue culture mom…supposedly it gives you the best genetic expression possible!

I can’t find much online in the way of information for this cut either…the “pink panty cut” of Blockberry

 

[jamesmessenger1]

So I think that feeding clones is for sure different than seed plants lol.

They are hungrier, and can handle more than their seed counterparts.

So much to learn.

 

[jamesmessenger1]

Day 31 since transplanting

I have NO frame of reference with clones, and how developed they should be OR what virgorous vs slow plants look like lol.

I’m guessing this is pretty good net fill for just over 4 weeks of veg time!

They definitely look happy even though I’m pushing them really hard! I’m at a 1.77 EC in 3.9 gallon autopots with no signs of salt stress, 78-80 degrees, 58-64 RH, and 750 PPFD with a really interesting light setup in a 2x4 lol.

I’m running TWO Mars Hydro SP3000’s, but one is the SP3000R, and has majority red spectrum…both are daisy chained and running at 60% 35” away from the canopy…the uniformity of light coverage is just unreal!

There’s like a 50 PPFD variance across the entire footprint from edge to center!

 

[BearWater]

So I think that feeding clones is for sure different than seed plants lol.

They are hungrier, and can handle more than their seed counterparts.

So much to learn.

I want to say i read this somewhere here on the farm? And i have personally experienced the difference from clones to seed plants or moms. The clones just took life differently (like the oldest kid vs the youngest)

 

[jamesmessenger1]

I want to say i read this somewhere here on the farm? And i have personally experienced the difference from clones to seed plants or moms. The clones just took life differently (like the oldest kid vs the youngest)

Yeah!

I also wonder what differences there are when it’s a Generation 0 from tissue culture mom!

 

[jamesmessenger1]

Doing something crazy in flower…

TWO mars hydro sp3000s, but one is the R version!

Maxing out uniform light, maxing out co2 in a sealed lung room, and it’s been faaaast lol.

Day 5 of flower today and already filling the gaps!

 

[Galgrows]

Doing something crazy in flower…

TWO mars hydro sp3000s, but one is the R version!

Maxing out uniform light, maxing out co2 in a sealed lung room, and it’s been faaaast lol.

Day 5 of flower today and already filling the gaps!

Those look great

 

[jamesmessenger1]

Day 10 today, and what a difference 5 days makes in early flower!

 

[jamesmessenger1]

Really excited about this canopy!!

 

[jamesmessenger1]

Running these clones, I’m excited about the prospect of a canopy that looks exactly the same across the tent!!!

 

[jamesmessenger1]

They're LOVING the high light and high co2!!

This is going to be an interesting finish!!

Day 20 flower today

 

[jamesmessenger1]

I've never had a canopy that was exactly the same wall to wall!!

Definitely sold on clones!!

 

[jamesmessenger1]

It's gonna be a good yielding tent for sure!

Everything is extra level, and the co2 is allowing for 1100 ppfd and an average of 1.4 VPD with high Temps.

EC is still 2.0 because I have found that Autopots turn into salt caves if you run much higher!

Constant access to food makes a 17 bar buffet unnecessary lol

 

[Galgrows]

I'm so happy you did clones i don't see many folks running clones or maybe they just don't say it? I love them i mean who would'nt want free plants? It's a blast i'm on my second set of clones now from the same mom. They are tough gals outdoors also.

 

[jamesmessenger1]

I'm so happy you did clones i don't see many folks running clones or maybe they just don't say it? I love them i mean who would'nt want free plants? It's a blast i'm on my second set of clones now from the same mom. They are tough gals outdoors also.

I just can't believe I didn't start sooner!

I think that running seeds is great for pheno hunts, and essential for your first runs because if you can crush with seeds, you'll do wonders with a uniform canopy lol

I just have a bigger problem now. And that's making up my mind on what to run next!! The fact that you can run such legendary heavy hitters like Santa Cruz Blue Dream or the Ether Cut of Alien Dawg or even Toad Venom....now I'm stuck on the ETHOS Genetics breeder cut of Forbidden Zkittles...if you haven't seen it yet, it seems to be a good yielding candy strain that turns black purple!! GetSeedsRightHere.com and eliteshippedclones.com are the best providers I've seen

 

[jamesmessenger1]

For sure happy with this canopy going into day 30 of flower!

975-1100 ppfd
1150-1300 ppm CO2
2.0 EC
3.9 gallon autopots with air domes and air bases
53-60 rh
81-83 leaf temp
83-86 air temp
Nights are same rh but 10 is degrees colder

Extremely active canopy
Drinking more than any other canopy of mine, and if you've ever been told that co2 isn't worth it...I disagree...I'm in a 2x4 space in an almost sealed lung room but still plenty of Leaks, and in almost 5 weeks of high ppm, I've used 8lbs of co2! Mind blown.

Need help from you guys on deciding if my next run should be the ETHOS breeder cut of Forbidden Zkittles that's grape candy, turns black purple, and yields well for a candy line OR go legendary and run the Santa Cruz Blue Dream or Pre 98 Chronic?

 

[TerpBeans]

Pre '98 Chronic should fill that tent!!!

 

[jamesmessenger1]

Love this new angle.

Clones not only grow evenly, but the tops are almost exactly the same size wall to wall!

Looks super good for the last day of week 5!

 

[InfiniteFire666]

Usually do this because of stress. Dont over think it. Give them a little time. Theyre still new. Keep rh and temp good like you are. Dial the light for new clones. Slowly raise the intensity. Happy growing.

 

[jamesmessenger1]

For anyone questioning if co2 is worth it in a tent, if buying clones is worth the money, if 600w in a 2x4 is too much/a waste, or dialing in your environment with controllers is worth it....this canopy says it all!