12-12 from seed community journal

[Vick_Vinegar]

Whats this stand for?

Original sensible seeds.

 

[GasPlease]

Tossing up whether I'll reverse one of em.

Take clones, finish grow, grow keeper clone, reverse the clone???

 

[Vick_Vinegar]

Take clones, finish grow, grow keeper clone, reverse the clone???

For the time being I got fuck all space and organisation so I'm just restocking from the 3 pack freebies I've got en masse.

When I get a better place and I've got a bit more space and time under me belt I'll hunt through a bunch of shit and choose some keepers.

 

[Coconutz]

Hey guys I hope everyone is well?
I've had some problems, too many to list I've crashed and burned picked them up then crashed and burned again

I turned off the heater and dimmed the light to hopefully slow things down and it seems to have worked idk how long but it's been fricken ages but they're not anything like flowering bar maybe a few pistils.

I've lost a couple along the way, well I've set them back far enough they can't possibly make the start but they're maybe salvageable with time

After 24hrs ^^^
it's cherry poppers so I might keep them aside for the next time they'll not be in the way.

I've had a closer look I've still got some decent clones ready to go and two favourite mums prime for cloning, I could just flower the mum but I think cloning is the best option for bigger buds, by the time I get the other's on track they'll have rooted?

Oh I've got ahead of myself there reason for celebration at my place

The show is back on the road

 

[Spliffy.Twojoints]

But canadians and americans use ml don't they?

True, we use millilitres and litres officially, but as someone else mentioned when it comes to growing I use cups and tablespoons etc. I think we only converted in the early 80s, so still lots of us thinking in imperial measurements, pretty much the same as US except for the odd thing.

Sorry to hijack a thread, the Canadian in me didn’t think it was polite to leave someone unanswered.

Back to 12/12, I’m seeing some awesome pics here, you guys are doing good work .
I have lots of seeds that I want to go through at some point in hopes of finding some keepers. I think this is the fastest way to do that and then reveg the keepers, correct?

 

[trygrowup]

Back to 12/12, I’m seeing some awesome pics here, you guys are doing good work .

Thanks man and i agree on that Top 3 favorit tread here. I have to try 12 -12. Probably after next grow.

 

[defective]

Hey guys I hope everyone is well?
I've had some problems, too many to list I've crashed and burned picked them up then crashed and burned again
View attachment 2629280
I turned off the heater and dimmed the light to hopefully slow things down and it seems to have worked idk how long but it's been fricken ages but they're not anything like flowering bar maybe a few pistils.

I've lost a couple along the way, well I've set them back far enough they can't possibly make the start but they're maybe salvageable with time
View attachment 2629282
After 24hrs ^^^
it's cherry poppers so I might keep them aside for the next time they'll not be in the way.
View attachment 2629277
I've had a closer look I've still got some decent clones ready to go and two favourite mums prime for cloning, I could just flower the mum but I think cloning is the best option for bigger buds, by the time I get the other's on track they'll have rooted?

Oh I've got ahead of myself there reason for celebration at my place
View attachment 2629281
The show is back on the road

Nice man! What size is that?

 

[Coconutz]

You guys might remember the Hsc blueberry muffin?

In the last week or so it's picked up and seems to be growing normally now

The other one I found is still alive but there's been very little progress.

@defective hey bro it's a 8x4ft, it's bigger than I need.
I'm intending to use about half for growing and the other rest for the heater, dehumidifier etc, cloning, tying and general messing around, with my 5x5 I kept space for me to get in with tea and a joint so now I'll have room for the kettle and easy chair

 

[defective]

You guys might remember the Hsc blueberry muffin?
View attachment 2629794
In the last week or so it's picked up and seems to be growing normally now
View attachment 2629792
The other one I found is still alive but there's been very little progress.

@defective hey bro it's a 8x4ft, it's bigger than I need.
I'm intending to use about half for growing and the other rest for the heater, dehumidifier etc, cloning, tying and general messing around, with my 5x5 I kept space for me to get in with tea and a joint so now I'll have room for the kettle and easy chair

That sounds awesome!

 

[Berniemac]

Thanks man and i agree on that Top 3 favorit tread here. I have to try 12 -12. Probably after next grow.

12-12 is great and all for high quantity numbers, this is where you really see the gain, you can put 10 plants per 5 gallon pot and when they start to flower which is like 40 days after they germinate you might kill off about 3-4 males if you only want flower, or leave the biggest male if you wanna pollinate, but you’re left with 5 -7 healthy plants in 1 pot.
This is much better than 1 gallon pots or smaller because of the frequent water issue.
I have seen great results this way, but I don’t see huge yields per individual plant, then again I don’t scrog hard core like other people I’ve seen.
So my advice would be drop loads of seeds, you can always thin out the less desirable genes!

 

[trygrowup]

12-12 is great and all for high quantity numbers, this is where you really see the gain, you can put 10 plants per 5 gallon pot and when they start to flower which is like 40 days after they germinate you might kill off about 3-4 males if you only want flower, or leave the biggest male if you wanna pollinate, but you’re left with 5 -7 healthy plants in 1 pot.
This is much better than 1 gallon pots or smaller because of the frequent water issue.
I have seen great results this way, but I don’t see huge yields per individual plant, then again I don’t scrog hard core like other people I’ve seen.
So my advice would be drop loads of seeds, you can always thin out the less desirable genes!

Yeah i got some time to chose how i can come about it.
Although i have a hard time imagine 4 - 6 plants in one pot.
But you got a point about the watering. That will be annoying real quick for me. 100%

I was just imagining like 6 plants in 1 x 1 meter and then next to them starting maybe 12 when time is right, like 3 -4 weeks before harvest.
I'm thinking some kind of simple manual ebb and flood tray for the starter pots to spare the watering work.
Then maybe 3 gal pots for the ones i keep to flower?
Any body have some input to that idea?

 

[Berniemac]

Yeah i got some time to chose how i can come about it.
Although i have a hard time imagine 4 - 6 plants in one pot.
But you got a point about the watering. That will be annoying real quick for me. 100%

I was just imagining like 6 plants in 1 x 1 meter and then next to them starting maybe 12 when time is right, like 3 -4 weeks before harvest.
I'm thinking some kind of simple manual ebb and flood tray for the starter pots to spare the watering work.
Then maybe 3 gal pots for the ones i keep to flower?
Any body have some input to that idea?

Trust me, I didn’t see the vision of multiple plants per pot, after enough trials and runs, and seeing all the extra space in the pots, I started trying it and noticed really great results, haven’t turned back since for plants I know will have a short cycle. Anything with like 2 months of veg or more typically get their own pot, unless I’m using a big outdoor 40 gallon grow bag or something, then I’ll happily pop 4-6 big ones plus some companion plants like marigold and basil.

 

[trygrowup]

What i don't get @Berniemac .
You want those 4 plant i one of those pots and then that's it? I just can't imagine the room full like that.
These pots are 18 liters but i feel i put more like 30 liters in them. Around 23 liters soil and 7 liters clay pebbles.

 

[Berniemac]

What i don't get @Berniemac .
You want those 4 plant i one of those pots and then that's it? I just can't imagine the room full like that.
These pots are 18 liters but i feel i put more like 30 liters in them. Around 23 liters soil and 7 liters clay pebbles.View attachment 2629896

Nice plants

But of course I do… think about it, look at the two plants closest to the bottom and the bottom right they have so much empty pot space, you could easily have 2-3 more plants per pot, it’s all about how to train them, I myself have learned to do heavy defoliation once I know a plant is starting to flower so anything getting covered gets chopped or I cut leaves to let light through , and any branching from the bottom I typically remove, I’m left with 5-9 bud sites per cola, 2-4 main colas = big dank frosty nugs every single time!
Don’t take my word for it and try it, but I’m telling you, you have lots of space in those pots, remember, this is also dependent on time and pot size, I would say multiple plants per pot works as long as it’s nothing over 2 months of veg, or anything less than 15 L pots

 

[Berniemac]

Here’s a closer look at what I mean, yes they are more full and coverage is damn near maxed out, but that’s where we as artist come in and remove or tweak our art so that it has the best possible chance. And it’s a numbers game, as you can see in the pot photos some have little stumps of what was going to be males, this round I didn’t care to pollinate anything, but I have seen great results this was, something to think about lol

 

[TerpBeans]

What i don't get @Berniemac .
You want those 4 plant i one of those pots and then that's it? I just can't imagine the room full like that.
These pots are 18 liters but i feel i put more like 30 liters in them. Around 23 liters soil and 7 liters clay pebbles.View attachment 2629896

Were these plants switched to 12/12 lighting from seedling? Or did they have veg time?

 

[Coconutz]

I'm getting somewhere everything needs a bit rearranging it eats up time but it's moving along.

I've stopped for a joint and a cup of tea but I've got power, ventilation and the lights up next after my tea and joint, I just need it operable to get me through this hiccup

Have a nice weekend everyone 🕊

 

[gmonster714]

Busting out the big 8". I believe in taking my time too. It'll get done.

 

[TerpBeans]

I think I know what you are referring too!?

 

[trygrowup]

Were these plants switched to 12/12 lighting from seedling? Or did they have veg time?

Yes it's not 12 - 12 yes and they have vegges some weeks.
But my point was more about having 4 plants in lets say a 5-7 gal pot and it's living soil.
I just have a hard time imagine them in 1x1 meter and get nutes enough to fill.
But it also depends on the possibilities and how the different metodes fit to the situation.
So it's hard to compare 1 to 1 imo