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Sweet dreams, y'all
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I have discovered new music. Never herd the lacs or jelly roll or this guy Im listening to now.. Upchurch. Didn't think white hip hop could be this good. I mean, I know Eminem is supposed to be the best best personally I never LOVED him like I love Big L or DMX for example.
These guys however are doing their own thing.
 
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This specific white widow is special. For three days after making a big cloud first thing I feel so much love for people. I wanna go out and give out hugs. Also the only source of news I have had is this thread and Ancient Aliens. Could be a mix.
 
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JIMKSI64 said:
So mystery. Here is a 3 hour trace of enviroment today
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It has a 1 degree bounce up and down. Humidity is a small Vivosun that's doing fine.
But the Thermoforge has been moved to veg tent and both cloud and thermo are offline.
The house HVAC is off.
The total input to that tent is lights and the only way out is the top of the tent via duct.
In room dehuey is off but the wet room dehuey is on constant holding 45%
Well hmmmm
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Ok fingered it out.
Silly. Really.
My house apparently is not a real priority in sending electricity by the power company.
My main entry is 220 3 phase like every house service.
Well apparently I get a 208v ( minimum per legal language) to 224v rolling voltage change. The same pattern but more clipped is apparent on my fluke meter as the effects of the reduction take a while to screw my numbers and when they flip it's a bang 208/ bang 244
So this up and down of system voltage is screwing the duct fan and slowing the pull. You can here the pitch of the duct fan change and of course lights go down and the only thing not really effected is the cloudforge but the draw is less than 100 watts but the duct fan is even less.
10v system specs for speed control is steady and does not change.
The UPC box has no more plugs and I would rather have stable app controls then worry about a 1 degree wave during lights on.
But at least I know it's not a box or controller ready to take a shit.
 
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JIMKSI64 said:
Ok fingered it out.
Silly. Really.
My house apparently is not a real priority in sending electricity by the power company.
My main entry is 220 3 phase like every house service.
Well apparently I get a 208v ( minimum per legal language) to 224v rolling voltage change. The same pattern but more clipped is apparent on my fluke meter as the effects of the reduction take a while to screw my numbers and when they flip it's a bang 208/ bang 244
So this up and down of system voltage is screwing the duct fan and slowing the pull. You can here the pitch of the duct fan change and of course lights go down and the only thing not really effected is the cloudforge but the draw is less than 100 watts but the duct fan is even less.
10v system specs for speed control is steady and does not change.
The UPC box has no more plugs and I would rather have stable app controls then worry about a 1 degree wave during lights on.
But at least I know it's not a box or controller ready to take a shit.
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Hey jim,

I’m not saying your readings are wrong, but I think you may be jumping a few diagnostic steps.

Coming from auto work, you already know the scan tool can show symptoms without proving the failed part. A 1°F temp wave in the tent might just be normal sensor noise, air mixing, or the fan moving heat pockets around. That graph by itself doesn’t prove a utility voltage problem.

The electrical side is where I’d slow down and verify. Most houses are not “220 three-phase like every house.” Most single-family homes are single-phase 120/240V or 120/208, unless there’s a special shop/farm/commercial reason. So if you’re seeing 208V, the important question is: 208V between which two points?

I’d check actual service type and measure L1-neutral, L2-neutral, and L1-L2 at the panel or meter side if you’re qualified, or have the power company/electrician do it. If lights are dimming and fan pitch is changing, that’s worth taking seriously. But I wouldn’t diagnose the utility from a grow controller graph.

The plants don’t care about a perfect flat line. They care about the overall range being stable and healthy. A one-degree bounce is not worth chasing unless there’s a bigger electrical symptom behind it.

just my .02 👊👊
 
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Florida_Mike said:
Hey jim,

I’m not saying your readings are wrong, but I think you may be jumping a few diagnostic steps.

Coming from auto work, you already know the scan tool can show symptoms without proving the failed part. A 1°F temp wave in the tent might just be normal sensor noise, air mixing, or the fan moving heat pockets around. That graph by itself doesn’t prove a utility voltage problem.

The electrical side is where I’d slow down and verify. Most houses are not “220 three-phase like every house.” Most single-family homes are single-phase 120/240V or 120/208, unless there’s a special shop/farm/commercial reason. So if you’re seeing 208V, the important question is: 208V between which two points?

I’d check actual service type and measure L1-neutral, L2-neutral, and L1-L2 at the panel or meter side if you’re qualified, or have the power company/electrician do it. If lights are dimming and fan pitch is changing, that’s worth taking seriously. But I wouldn’t diagnose the utility from a grow controller graph.

The plants don’t care about a perfect flat line. They care about the overall range being stable and healthy. A one-degree bounce is not worth chasing unless there’s a bigger electrical symptom behind it.

just my .02 👊👊
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Lights do not visible change.
Old farm 220 3 phase transformer on pole. I did not know most house was single phase. I have a compressor that would not run on single. I am not qualified to touch AC and I know my DC gives a slight correction to stupidity but AC wants to kill you.
Temp verified with 3 sensors. Remember my information OCD runs my life.
And it appears to be scheduled. lol can not believe this. My flukemeter has a data trace and it turns to the pattern at 9am and turns off at 9pm. This is too funny.

Thanks for the input. I can rerun ACI to see where this happens and it's from 9-9 and the fluke verified it.
Must be when all the AI generated stuff is posted to the Trainwreck. Have to power up the data centers.

I have already logged a complaint with power company and with PUCO.
 
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