Getting Lockout caused by PH?

[kellenf535]

Hello everyone. I am a brand new grower on my first two plants and seem to be dealing with lockout. (Im growing in soil) based off the research Ive done,
Right now, my plants are in about week 4-5 of veg (i received them from a friend right after they entered veg) in 5 gallon fabric pots
I water with half a gallon per pot with a range of 6.6-6.8 ph, I understand if that's pushing it. I feed about once a week or a tad couple days longer, and add cal-mag every other feeding. But I cant seem to get my soil below 7.1.
Right now my lower leaves seem to be developing some yellow edges with some discoloration and drooping. I topped about a week ago and they seem to developing but i Feel like i should have seen more growth.
I guess my question is, do you guys flush this early in the grow if there is excess nuts or do you avoid feeding for a week to flush out nuts? How much water used to flush? Or overall how do you take care of this and prevent it from happening again? Thank yall!

 

[Gmix]

I doubt you have a ph problem a ph of 6.6-6.8 is well within the acceptable limits.
Week 4-5 of veg unless you have been well over feeding I would doubt you would have a lock out issue albeit it’s possible.
Post a picture try posting it full screen rather than a thumbnail.
When you topped a week ago the plant would of stressed & wouldn’t of grown much for the first 3 days
Slow growth can be a result of a few issues however it’s normally caused by overwatering & over feeding both can be accompanied by dropping so it’s possible your over feeding or overwatering
The droopy/yellow edges I need to see a pic.
Tbh a pic will say a 1,000 words

 

[kellenf535]

Hello everyone. I am a brand new grower on my first two plants and seem to be dealing with lockout. (Im growing in soil) based off the research Ive done,
Right now, my plants are in about week 4-5 of veg (i received them from a friend right after they entered veg) in 5 gallon fabric pots
I water with half a gallon per pot with a range of 6.6-6.8 ph, I understand if that's pushing it. I feed about once a week or a tad couple days longer, and add cal-mag every other feeding. But I cant seem to get my soil below 7.1.
Right now my lower leaves seem to be developing some yellow edges with some discoloration and drooping. I topped about a week ago and they seem to developing but i Feel like i should have seen more growth.
I guess my question is, do you guys flush this early in the grow if there is excess nuts or do you avoid feeding for a week to flush out nuts? How much water used to flush? Or overall how do you take care of this and prevent it from happening again? Thank yall!

 

[kellenf535]

I doubt you have a ph problem a ph of 6.6-6.8 is well within the acceptable limits.
Week 4-5 of veg is highly unlikely you have a lockout issue
Not unless you’ve been well over feeding.
Post a picture try posting it full screen rather than a thumbnail.
When you topped a week ago the plant would of stressed & wouldn’t of grown much for the first 3 days
The droopy/yellow edges I need to see a pic

I just posted a photo reply to my post. I guess Im super vigilant and am super passionate about this and wanna do it right

 

[Gmix]

There are signs of over feeding
Not drastic mind
I don’t suggest flushing just cut down on the nutes.
What are you feeding if it’s organic you don’t need to worry about the ph as you don’t ph organic grows.
I can’t really see the dropping without a seeing the whole plant

 

[kellenf535]

There are signs of over feeding
Not drastic mind
I don’t suggest flushing just cut down on the nutes.
What are you feeding if it’s organic you don’t need to worry about the ph as you don’t ph organic grows.
I can’t really see the dropping without a seeing the whole plant

I took these after watering. I watered with twice the amount of water my last watering two days ago and they are still a bit wet, I had not seen your responses by this time about possible over feeding. The plant on the right is a little bit more compact, and not as affected as the one on the left, but the Top growth is showing a little bit less vibrant green than the one on the left. I have my light about 22 inches from my plant. It’s a 100 W and I have it at full blast after seeing that I might be over feeding. I might just do a little bit less intensity of a feed next time. But right now my feeding schedule has been thrown off. There is also a little bit of towing on the left one if you can tell, I’m not sure. Any advice would help, I understand. My plant is not in huge stress right now, but I can tell that it’s going through something, maybe a nitrogen deficiency?

 

[kellenf535]

I took these after watering. I watered with twice the amount of water my last watering two days ago and they are still a bit wet, I had not seen your responses by this time about possible over feeding. The plant on the right is a little bit more compact, and not as affected as the one on the left, but the Top growth is showing a little bit less vibrant green than the one on the left. I have my light about 22 inches from my plant. It’s a 100 W and I have it at full blast after seeing that I might be over feeding. I might just do a little bit less intensity of a feed next time. But right now my feeding schedule has been thrown off. There is also a little bit of towing on the left one if you can tell, I’m not sure. Any advice would help, I understand. My plant is not in huge stress right now, but I can tell that it’s going through something, maybe a nitrogen deficiency?

You can also tell that they are not holding up as firm and straight as they should be

 

[Ejilla24]

How we looking I have few problems could use some advice

 

[Gmix]

ok
The double watering wasn’t a good idea however it’s done now. Let them dry out not bone dry or it will suck up pure nutes. I say that with trepidation which will become clear.
Here’s a pic of n toxicity

Notice the crawling of the fan leaves.
The last pics seems that you might of been overwatering ( before the double watering )
I say that because of the size vs age
Overwatering is the main thing that slows growth right down as the roots can’t breathe
The last pics you posted I see some bug damage.
As your outside that’s expected as long as they moved on & haven’t made it there home.
The curly leafed one in the video might be good to inspect as bugs can do that.
How big well depends on how's long you veg & other things like watering ect they can get quite big
They actually don’t look bad new growth seems good bar that curly one.
I was wondering if that was old damage in the first pic hence 1/2 the reason to ask to see the whole plant.
Atm they look ok & are neither over fed or under fed
I do think it’s worth getting a microscope & checking the underside of the leaves as that’s were they live & lay eggs.
Honestly the others look fine a couple of random bug marks but your always going to get random bugs outside

 

[kellenf535]

ok
The double watering wasn’t a good idea however it’s done now. Let them dry out not bone dry or it will suck up pure nutes. I say that with trepidation which will become clear.
Here’s a pic of n toxicityView attachment 2680343
Notice the crawling of the fan leaves.
The last pics seems that you might of been overwatering ( before the double watering )
I say that because of the size vs age
Overwatering is the main thing that slows growth right down as the roots can’t breathe
The last pics you posted I see some bug damage.
As your outside that’s expected as long as they moved on & haven’t made it there home.
The curly leafed one in the video might be good to inspect as bugs can do that.
How big well depends on how's long you veg & other things like watering ect they can get quite big
They actually don’t look bad new growth seems good bar that curly one.
I was wondering if that was old damage in the first pic hence 1/2 the reason to ask to see the whole plant.
Atm they look ok & are neither over fed or under fed
I do think it’s worth getting a microscope & checking the underside of the leaves as that’s were they live & lay eggs.
Honestly the others look fine a couple of random bug marks but your always going to get random bugs outside

 

[kellenf535]

ok
The double watering wasn’t a good idea however it’s done now. Let them dry out not bone dry or it will suck up pure nutes. I say that with trepidation which will become clear.
Here’s a pic of n toxicityView attachment 2680343
Notice the crawling of the fan leaves.
The last pics seems that you might of been overwatering ( before the double watering )
I say that because of the size vs age
Overwatering is the main thing that slows growth right down as the roots can’t breathe
The last pics you posted I see some bug damage.
As your outside that’s expected as long as they moved on & haven’t made it there home.
The curly leafed one in the video might be good to inspect as bugs can do that.
How big well depends on how's long you veg & other things like watering ect they can get quite big
They actually don’t look bad new growth seems good bar that curly one.
I was wondering if that was old damage in the first pic hence 1/2 the reason to ask to see the whole plant.
Atm they look ok & are neither over fed or under fed
I do think it’s worth getting a microscope & checking the underside of the leaves as that’s were they live & lay eggs.
Honestly the others look fine a couple of random bug marks but your always going to get random bugs outside

Nap

ok
The double watering wasn’t a good idea however it’s done now. Let them dry out not bone dry or it will suck up pure nutes. I say that with trepidation which will become clear.
Here’s a pic of n toxicityView attachment 2680343
Notice the crawling of the fan leaves.
The last pics seems that you might of been overwatering ( before the double watering )
I say that because of the size vs age
Overwatering is the main thing that slows growth right down as the roots can’t breathe
The last pics you posted I see some bug damage.
As your outside that’s expected as long as they moved on & haven’t made it there home.
The curly leafed one in the video might be good to inspect as bugs can do that.
How big well depends on how's long you veg & other things like watering ect they can get quite big
They actually don’t look bad new growth seems good bar that curly one.
I was wondering if that was old damage in the first pic hence 1/2 the reason to ask to see the whole plant.
Atm they look ok & are neither over fed or under fed
I do think it’s worth getting a microscope & checking the underside of the leaves as that’s were they live & lay eggs.
Honestly the others look fine a couple of random bug marks but your always going to get random bugs outside

i appreciate your willingness to teach!
As for the watering, my findings scored research have always been to water for 20% runoff, which I don’t even think I’m watering enough to get that. About a 1/2 gallon per week plant, maybe a little bit more for the larger one. Is there a certain method you follow?
All the yellowing and brown spots are old growth and mostly from the smaller plant.
The larger plant I let dry out, maybe not bone dry but close to it, and fed with half strength.yesterday. The smaller one has yet to dry out as im posting this
I will inspect for bugs, I heard they can mimic deficiencies.
As for leaf tacoing, I noticed more on the larger leaf on upper growth which I understand is a result of heat or light stress. I have since kept my 100w light 26” away at 85% and no major tacoing has occurred and it seems to be getting a little better but it’s too soon to tell.
Here’s a couple more pictures
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[kellenf535]

Nap

i appreciate your willingness to teach!
As for the watering, my findings scored research have always been to water for 20% runoff, which I don’t even think I’m watering enough to get that. About a 1/2 gallon per week plant, maybe a little bit more for the larger one. Is there a certain method you follow?
All the yellowing and brown spots are old growth and mostly from the smaller plant.
The larger plant I let dry out, maybe not bone dry but close to it, and fed with half strength.yesterday. The smaller one has yet to dry out as im posting this
I will inspect for bugs, I heard they can mimic deficiencies.
As for leaf tacoing, I noticed more on the larger leaf on upper growth which I understand is a result of heat or light stress. I have since kept my 100w light 26” away at 85% and no major tacoing has occurred and it seems to be getting a little better but it’s too soon to tell.
Here’s a couple more pictures
,