Log In Register

Colorado board of health says "new medical marijuana rules don't doom caregivers"

  • Thread starter Thread starter City farmer
  • Start date Start date
  • Tagged users Tagged users None

Colorado board of health says "new medical marijuana rules don't doom caregivers"

City farmer 11 Replies 1,827 Views
Page 1 of 1 · Replies 1–12 of 12
1
City farmer

City farmer

Posts
62
Reactions
54
Joined
Jun 24, 2011
Points
18
The state Board of Health on Wednesday adopted significant new rules for Colorado's small-scale medical-marijuana providers, over the objections of cannabis advocates who said the rules are too harsh.
The rules will require that caregivers — medical-marijuana providers serving five or fewer patients — do more than just give cannabis to patients. Instead, they must also do something extra, such as help patients with shopping, cooking or getting to doctor appointments.
Medical-marijuana advocates fear the added responsibilities will severely trim the number of caregivers, which state officials said Wednesday stands at 16,000. The advocates say caregivers provide a link to medical marijuana for patients who are poor, who can't grow for themselves or who live in areas where there is no convenient access to dispensaries.
But Board of Health members said they do not think the regulations present the doomsday scenario that advocates worry they do.
"There's a lot of things caregivers are already doing that would meet this definition," the board's president, Laura Davis, said at Wednesday's hearing.
The rules will not affect dispensaries, which serve large numbers of patients and are regulated by separate laws. There are about 800 dispensaries in the state.
Caregivers are required by the state constitution to have a "significant responsibility for managing the well-being of the patient."
What, exactly, that means has been the subject of a years-long debate, played out at the Board of Health, at the legislature and in the courts. The new rules are intended to settle the debate.
Law enforcement officials said the rules are needed to help them better differentiate between legitimate medical-marijuana caregivers and illegal drug dealers hiding behind the claim that they are caregivers. Neal Richardson, chief deputy district attorney in Denver, called such a clear separation "the linchpin in our enforcement efforts against people who are dealing drugs."
With rules requiring that care givers do extra work for their patients, police could then ask purported caregivers about that work to help determine whether the caregivers are legitimate, said Ernie Martinez, the president of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association.
But medical-marijuana advocates said such an approach would allow law enforcement to intrude into patients' medical care, and they questioned why state officials would want medical-marijuana caregivers providing services that others are better qualified to provide.
The advocates said the rules are a misunderstanding of why patients have caregivers.
"We're looking at cultivators being required to do all of these other things when what we really want them to do is be cultivators," said Shannon Gass, with the Grand Junction- based group Cannabis Consumer Health and Patient Advocacy Association.
Gass wondered whether care givers could simply help patients coordinate other aspects of their care — like transportation or cooking — rather than being directly involved in those things. Board members said they thought that would be enough to meet the new rules.
Still, a number of medical-marijuana advocates said the Board of Health was creating too great a burden for caregivers, many of whom say they work virtually for free.
"I make no money doing this," said Michael Marcella, a caregiver from Colorado Springs. "I'm going broke doing this. I'm doing this because I care about people."
The board approved the new rules unanimously. They will take effect next month.


Read more: Colorado Board of Health says new medical-marijuana rules don't doom caregivers - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_18284170#ixzz1QeRfWcTS
 
"I make no money doing this," said Michael Marcella, a caregiver from Colorado Springs. "I'm going broke doing this. I'm doing this because I care about people

what a crock of shit...im sure thats what ol timmy tells everyone as well. im so sick of everyones BS in the med scene
 
I dont think any of us is worried about the definition of caregiver being why the state fucks with us. We are worried about having to register our grows and about who can access the information in the database. As far as the definition all you really have to say is that you help with diet planning or personal training for your patient both of which carry significant weight imo.
 
so does this mean that if a caregiver bakes Medibles for their clients..

they are considered as "cooking" for them.?

could it be THAT easy?
(i cant find the letter of the law defining how much work is considered "caregving" not just Growing.)
 
so does this mean that if a caregiver bakes Medibles for their clients..

they are considered as "cooking" for them.?

could it be THAT easy?
(i cant find the letter of the law defining how much work is considered "caregving" not just Growing.)

Yes. The language is still vague.

Put the weed on a piece of bread. Voila! a weed sandwich! Or make a PB&J with every bag you sell.

So if an MMC isn't a caregiver, then where do they exist in AM20? hOW ARE THEY LEGAL!!!
 
Drive your patients through mcDonald's once a month....

Voila'..transportation/food/nutritional planning all performed in one fell swoop.

Smoke a fatty...then hit Quick Trip for cigs and beer and the grocery shopping is also complete.

Make it home for reruns of "House" and BAM..... check off that you took 'em in to see the Doc.

Oh yeah.....and don't forget to give em their weed!
 
I think I'll just grab'm a Wendy's frosty and we'll watch Dr.Phil for a minute...lol

Tex
 
So if an MMC isn't a caregiver, then where do they exist in AM20? hOW ARE THEY LEGAL!!!

It is my understanding that hb1284 brought them out from under the amendment and created "MMCs". 99.9% of MMCs bent over and took it instead of fighting the state on that one.
 
It is my understanding that hb1284 brought them out from under the amendment and created "MMCs". 99.9% of MMCs bent over and took it instead of fighting the state on that one.

It seems to me, that if an MMC needs to be designated as caregiver in order to grow, which they must (at least 70% anyway), then they should be considered a caregiver for the application of any rules pertaining to caregivers.

So here we are, you, me, the patient, even the MMC, understand and accept that in order for the MMC to be able to cultivate plants, they must officially be declared caregiver, and the patient relinquishes their right to cultivate their own, or have someone else do it for them.

If they're going to treat MMC's entirely different in these respects, then MMC's should not be required to be designated on patients red cards in order to cultivate. This is exactly what sends the message that the state wants to grow, sell, and basically control all cannabis in the state by proxy. If centers are going to remain, then it's my opinion that cultivation for distribution by MMCs should be regulated independently of A20, patients and caregivers. The whole "member" concept at MMC's should go away. Centers should not have to swindle patients out of their right to grow under A20, in order to have it for themselves (apparently not under A20).

All seems common sense and logic to me, but apparently both are in short supply in government. That's alright, it's nice to see $50 eighths again, 'preciate it.
 
Page 1 of 1 · Replies 1–12 of 12
1
Back
Top Bottom