Maximum Yield Marijuana Hypocrisy

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As medical marijuana growers, we need to feel safe with hydroponics retailers, hydroponics manufacturers, and hydroponics media. Because even though what we do is legal according to state laws, people can still mess with you if you grow marijuana. So trust is everything. You gotta know somebody is 100% on your side. You gotta know people are totally chill with you growing marijuana, that they are not dissing marijuana growers, that they are not ashamed to be part of the marijuana community.

When the Maximum Yield Indoor Gardening Expo happened in San Francisco in 2009 and again with the latest Maximum Yield San Francisco event on the weekend of July 16-17, 2011, it ignited a debate about trust and honesty in the hydroponics community.

Let's face it, Maximum Yield hydroponics expos are huge. These events could be a time of celebration and coming together for the entire hydroponics industry, except for the way that Maximum Yield handles the issue of medical marijuana cultivation, which everyone acknowledges is the backbone of the hydroponics industry.

The heart of the matter is that Maximum Yield and their allies such as Sunlight Supply only exist because they make tons of money off of marijuana growers and companies that manufacture products for hydroponics marijuana growers.

But yet…Maximum Yield treats the marijuana community like shit. In fact, you are not even allowed at one of their expos if you openly making hydroponics products that maximize marijuana's yield. You can't even talk about medical marijuana at these expos.

I went to a Maximum Yield Indoor Gardening Expo and asked Maximum Yield publisher Jim Jesson and his lovely wife Linda why Maximum Yield only has articles about growing lettuce and tomatoes, rather than medical marijuana.

Linda got so red in the face that I thought she would explode. Jim clenched his fists and squinted his eyes like he was preparing to stomp me, and then had his ugly goon security people throw me out on my ass.

Before I had gotten thrown out, I wandered around the boring expo and put a simple question to employees of General Hydroponics, Botanicare, Fox Farm, Technaflora, Hydrofarm, Sunlight Supply and other companies that make huge $$$$$ off of our marijuana growing community.

I asked a simple, straightforward question: Are you on the side of medical marijuana growers?

Their answers were rude but revealing: “Marijuana is illegal. Don’t ask me that. Who the fuck are you? You’re at the wrong Expo. We don’t cater to criminals. You are some kind of idiot. I am sorry, I can’t talk about cannabis. ”

But of course behind closed doors these people admit marijuana growers are what keeps the hydroponics industry going. But they’re soooo afraid of marijuana. The say they’re frightened about a repeat of a one-time federal raid of a few hydroponics retail stores in 1989, called Operation Green Merchant.

Time for a reality check...it's nearly a quarter century later, and people are still worried about hydroponics stores getting raided for selling legal hydroponics gardening products to legal medical marijuana growers?

Sure, marijuana laws are in flux nationwide, but we all see more societal acceptance of marijuana growing (most of it hydroponics gourmet medical marijuana) as a legitimate enterprise that helps the economy and improves people's health and quality of life too.

And yes we're all troubled that the US federal government actively opposes medical marijuana in states where voters or legislators have approved it. But let's get real: there's absolutely no evidence the feds are going to bust a hydroponics store owner, Maximum Yield magazine, or an indoor gardening expo if medical marijuana growers are treated with respect and transparency in those venues.

Maximum Yield's anti-marijuana policies arbitrarily limit hydroponics innovation and information, putting a cloak of falsehood on the hydroponics community. Their policies block some of the best and brightest hydroponics entrepreneurs and pioneers who want to participate in the Maximum Yield Indoor Gardening Expo.

Everyone agrees that Maximum Yield expos are a valuable way for the public and hydroponics manufacturers to network. But more and more members of our hydroponics community are balking at having to submit to a medical marijuana "code of silence" if they want access to the indoor gardening expo's benefits.

And many of us realize that silence is complicity with the drug war. It's easy to see that a hydroponics event where the topic of marijuana is forbidden is an event guided by hypocrisy and discrimination towards all of us who love and grow the healing medical herb.

“What I noticed talking to Maximum Yield is that they use the exact same language as drug warriors,” a frustrated hydroponics businessman told me. “They say things like ‘zero tolerance,’ and ‘we’ll have plainclothes people in the expo to make sure you’re not talking about marijuana.’ They won’t let me hand out my brochures, because my brochures talk about growing marijuana, which is what this whole damn industry is about!”

At least one major hydroponics company- Advanced Nutrients- is doing something about the anti-marijuana policies of Maximum Yield. On mid-day Saturday July 16, the hydroponics manufacturer flew an aerial banner above the Maximum Yield expo in San Francisco for several hours.

The banner said: “Want Big, Sugary Buds?” Advanced Nutrients flew the same banner over the Maximum Yield San Fran expo two years ago, according to Advanced Nutrients co-founder Michael Straumietis.

“The hydroponics community is tired of the Maximum Yield censorship and hypocrisy,” Straumietis says, explaining his high-flying protest. “We’re seeing more marijuana-specific hydroponics indoor expos, and that trend will grow until Maximum Yield is totally irrelevant for the high value hydroponics community. Our hydroponics community is no longer willing to be told what it can and can't say.”

Article by Steve Davis, on Jul. 16th 2011
 
Texas Kid

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If Advanced or GH or Hydrofarm pulled out of the expos, now thats a protest, not wavin a silly flag...come on Big Mike

Max Yield used to be called the Sensemilla Times or something like that back in the day and then they wanted to look more mainstream so they changed their name, if I remember right

Urban Gardner is just as guilty but they do not do any primary sponserships of expos.

I smoked out with just about every vendor at the expo I attended...lol

Tex
 
squarepusher

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so this article is saying AN is taking a stand? Isn't AN the company that won't talk about what type of plant they are meant to grow?
 
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i argue that censorship n hypocrisy are imposed by the government, not the magazine
and certainly not expo sponsors

Michael Straumietis is a big fraud. his pseudo scientific magazine with AN adverts, ripoff more growers than all the expo attendees combined. there's a lot of hypocrisy all around the industry
 
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the two-faced attitude of the industry was a huge reason I closed my hydro biz in 2007.

I asked the same questions of my reps and of their boses. WHY are you having me sign a letter that states that...under penalty of losing my wholesale standing with your company (SS/Hydrofarm/BWGS) I agree not to sell equipment to people who are growing cannabis/medical cannabis....

and then you send me the new GH brochure with feeding schedules that mention "12/12" and offer ppm levels for "clones" or some other product that speaks solely to a light schedule that DOESN'T jive with 90% of the plants on the planet...cept..maybe MARIJUANA and crysanthemums?

Needless to say, i had about as many fans high up in the hydro industry as I have here in CO MMJ in the "licensees".... LOL. Fucktards.

As far as GH or Advanced pulling out of the Max Prof...'er...Yield show....

back in 2004 at the Vancouver show both companies were in attendance. I >think, this was the first show of this kind..coulda been one the year before but /i wasn't in the game yet so wasn't in attendance... anywayz....

AN had the damn-near nekked dancers gettin artwork airbrushed on their curvatures and nooks and crannies and dancin' all over on the tarantual and scorpion cages...cleverly situated by the Men's restroom....and one HELL of a pot party each night

hydrofarm stood on the other side of the arena...disgusted.... and the next year...refused to participate in the event(s) (by then, expanding to other cities). they may have even sat out for more than a year.... dunno...stopped going to the shows after 2 years...

then...all of the sudden...Hydrofarm is back in...and there's no AN booth...... Hmmm...

can you say 'industry pressure'? Cocksuckers.

AN could run with this SO HUGELY if they had the means to doo so. as the article says...the swing has happened.... and to deny that MJ isn't 90% or MORE of the sales in this industry isn't something that can stand much longer...

just more folks not takin responsibility for their actions or giving a fuck what their actions mean for others..... plain and simple.

thanks for the post. didn't know there was a rumblin goin on but am very glad to hear it cus it is WAYYY overdue.
 
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They don't really have any choice in the matter... if they want to keep selling throughout the varying States. Interstate commerce. And federally, anything Mj or MMj related, that would be RICO. Pretty sure their legal dept has training courses on how to shut these questions down... if not, they should.

That's the explanation, not saying it is right or fair.
 
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If Advanced or GH or Hydrofarm pulled out of the expos, now thats a protest, not wavin a silly flag...come on Big Mike

Pay attention, Advanced isn't allowed into this expo BECAUSE they don't hide the fact that they're pro-MMJ. What they're protesting is the fact that the Expo won't admit that it's about MJ, and that it kicks out anyone who's not too cowardly to admit it too.

so this article is saying AN is taking a stand? Isn't AN the company that won't talk about what type of plant they are meant to grow?

Read the article. AN flies the huge "Want Sugary Buds" banner. They make Kushie Kush. They're more in-your-face about marijuana than any other nute manufacturer.

They're the company standing up for MJ.

i argue that censorship n hypocrisy are imposed by the government, not the magazine
and certainly not expo sponsors

Then why hasn't the THC Expo been shut down? Why aren't any of the vendors that participate in it being persecuted by the government/DEA?

Let's be honest. You can have an expo that's blatantly pro-cannabis.

Maximum Yields is just to wussy to do it. They're so afraid something bad might happen they're not willing to try to make something good happen.
 
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In reality what would happen? really? charge someone with conspiricy to cultivate medical marijuana? RICO charges? not hardley, the whole distance yourself from mmj is just a silly one anymore especailly at events that are held in states specifically because they are a med state.

Guess High Times, Skunk, Treating Yourself, Kush Expo, etc... have much better lawyers than Max Yield does

There are other events and publications that DO cater to the tomato and lettuce/vegetable industry but it damn sure isn't max yield which really cracks me up

Tex
 
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They don't really have any choice in the matter... if they want to keep selling throughout the varying States. Interstate commerce. And federally, anything Mj or MMj related, that would be RICO. Pretty sure their legal dept has training courses on how to shut these questions down... if not, they should.

That's the explanation, not saying it is right or fair.


look what happened to tommy chong

wasnt even his company FFS

but I agree its total hypocrisy

didnt AN fly a plane with a banner advertising kushie kush over SF during the expo way back and it caused a huge stink?

or am I just really really baked off this banana shit Im smoking
 
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personally Im not too concerned with how these company's represent themselves, I wouldnt touch MMJ with a ten foot pole if I was a company thats worth is probably in the high hundred millions, there not trying to make a political point its just wise business
 
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mmj is fucking retarded. if you're a grower worth his salt, you dont need politicians to make decisions for you. again , this site is comedy
 
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ok lets get real people.. we are in America... where lots of silly, fucked up, underground/unknown, twists/turns, all kinds of crazy shit happens in this country


save your breath and move on.. for now these company have to work this way..they are getting taxed so the government is making money off them
 
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