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the first video you can see the dog Runnin >away< from the police, its all good the police just shoot the dogs in the back as they run away.(killing both dogs)

the second video(the one where they shoot both his dogs, one of them being a corgie in a cage) ,



guess what the guy was charged with???

a simple misdemeanor, it was either possession of a marijuana pipe, or possession of a pipe and a small amount of pot can't remember off the top of my head.
 
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the first time I saw these people getting arrested for feeding the homeless> I was pissed.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDD6FtNMpNw[/YOUTUBE]


In all Seriousness though, these Cops are really taking a bite of crime by arresting people for feeding the homeless,

I bet everyone is FL sleeps a little better at night knowing these hardcore criminals are off the streets.
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The dog vid was harder to watch, maybe it's b/c I'm used to cops being assholes to people. It's the citizens in Florida that pressure law makers to pass those ordinances, that state reaps what it sows in many, many ways. I've heard plenty of horror stories out of the Ozarks as well.
 
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the first video you can see the dog Runnin >away< from the police, its all good the police just shoot the dogs in the back as they run away.(killing both dogs)

the second video(the one where they shoot both his dogs, one of them being a corgie in a cage) ,



guess what the guy was charged with???

a simple misdemeanor, it was either possession of a marijuana pipe, or possession of a pipe and a small amount of pot can't remember off the top of my head.

Sounds like a class action civil suit is in order.
 
Chronic Monster

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When speaking with the Police of Columbia I asked if they keep a record of how many dogs are murked every year, I was informed they don't have access to that info...

So I looked at some other states to see if I could get an idea of how often this happens...


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Over the past decade or so, Milwaukee police have shot more than 400 dogs in the line of duty, according to court records in one dog-shooting death that stands out among them.

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The 2004 death of a 7-year-old Labrador/springer spaniel mix named Bubba appears to be the first such case to go to a federal civil rights trial in Milwaukee, where it is set to begin before a jury this week. His owner, Virginia Viilo, sued the city, police Sgt. Kevin Eyre and Officer Montell Carter in 2005, claiming her constitutional rights were violated when Carter fired shots into her already-injured dog.

Courts have held that unnecessarily killing a pet violates the owner's Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable seizure. Viilo's attorneys said they are not aware of a civil rights lawsuit filed over a pet shooting ever going to trial in Milwaukee. The city's attorney declined to comment.

The city has already appealed the case to the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago, arguing the officer had immunity when he shot Bubba. In a September opinion, the higher court denied the appeal and took a harsh view of the shooting.

"Although this is not, to say the least, a record that paints a sympathetic view of the defendants' actions on the night Bubba was killed, the defendants nonetheless argue they are entitled to qualified immunity as a matter of law," wrote Judge Richard Cudahy.

Friendly or fierce?

The jury will hear two sharply different portrayals of Bubba.

Viilo says Bubba was a playful dog who romped with neighborhood children and visited residents at the nursing home where she worked.

Police say Bubba was a threat to them on the day they encountered the dog. They say he charged them, growling and baring his teeth.

Certain facts are not in dispute, according to court records and attorneys in the case.

On the evening of Aug. 15, 2004, officers went at Viilo's home in the 2200 block of S. 20th St., looking for a wanted man they were told had a pit bull, police said. They didn't find their subject and Viilo said she didn't know him, according to her attorneys.

Carter had prepared for the possible arrest by arming himself with a shotgun because, as he later said, "the best weapon for a dog is a shotgun, through my experience."

As the officers approached the front door, Viilo, some guests and Bubba were in the backyard. Bubba barked and jumped over a fence and ran toward the officers, police said. Carter fired twice, hitting the dog at least once, and fracturing his front leg. The dog retreated under some bushes.

Viilo doesn't dispute the reasonableness of Carter's first shots, noting the "difficult decisions that police officers face in the line of duty," but contends the subsequent two shots were not necessary and were wrong.

In city documents, Viilo acknowledged Bubba had a history of jumping over the 3½-foot fence, which had carpeting on it to protect the dog's belly.

According to court records:

After Bubba was shot the first time, Viilo tried to get to her dog and call for a veterinarian, but police denied her attempts. By the time Eyre arrived five to 10 minutes later, a crowd had gathered and some people were yelling to officers that Bubba was not a bad dog.

Eyre approached the bushes where Bubba was hiding. Eyre said the dog came out toward the officers, showing his teeth and growling.

Eyre said he feared for his safety and drew his handgun, but decided not to shoot because the bullet might have ricocheted. Eyre ordered Carter to shoot Bubba with the shotgun, then ordered a second shot, the fourth in all, which killed the animal.

After the shooting, police wrote Viilo a $122 ticket for letting Bubba run loose.

Witnesses disagree

The court of appeals opinion noted seven witnesses disputed the officers' account that the dog was growling or coming at them. The witnesses said "Bubba was limping and whimpering as he emerged from the bushes and that he was just trying to get back to Viilo," the appeals court opinion states.

The shooting of Bubba was not an isolated event, according to documents filed by Viilo. Over a nine-year period, 298 Milwaukee police officers shot 434 dogs. Police records showed that from 1993 to mid-2005, at least 24 of those shootings were fatal.

Viilo said she hoped her lawsuit over Bubba's death would discourage other such shootings. U.S. District Judge Charles Clevert, the trial judge, ruled that other police shootings of dogs would not be allowed in as evidence.

Viilo's suit seeks compensatory and punitive damages along with legal fees. The trial is expected to last up to a week.
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SO yeah, In a larger city 40+ dogs are shot a year, that article is only about Milwaukee, not all the other cities in Wisconsin.
If you take into account every city, in the state.
I bet its closer to a dog getting shot everyday up in Wisconsin, or probably any state for that matter.
 
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God that level of injustice pisses me off so much I can't see straight. I've always said that if my life ever became miserable enough to justify suicide, I would make my death as useful as possible for humanity(if you know what I mean). There are a lot of evil fucks walking upright who shouldn't be. At boot camp I shot well enough with a rifle to earn the expert marksmanship ribbon. Just saying...
 
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holy fuck....omg...I can't believe cops shoot dogs like that. holy fuck

the first video you can see the dog Runnin >away< from the police, its all good the police just shoot the dogs in the back as they run away.(killing both dogs)

the second video(the one where they shoot both his dogs, one of them being a corgie in a cage) ,

guess what the guy was charged with???

a simple misdemeanor, it was either possession of a marijuana pipe, or possession of a pipe and a small amount of pot can't remember off the top of my head.

The dog vid was harder to watch, maybe it's b/c I'm used to cops being assholes to people. It's the citizens in Florida that pressure law makers to pass those ordinances, that state reaps what it sows in many, many ways. I've heard plenty of horror stories out of the Ozarks as well.
I can't watch them shooting the dogs. CM and others may remember that I've posted before that the CHP shot and killed my sister's border collie AFTER letting her OUT of their fenced and gated property in a clearly agitated state. They have video (surveillance vid) of it. I've never seen it and I won't see it, can't. And I can't watch them shooting other peoples' dogs. I just can't.

Funny, ain't it? How I can kill an animal myself, using a gun even, but I can't watch that shit. Then again, I've never taken pleasure in the killing and have always worked my hardest to ensure that it was as humane a killing as possible.
 
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Funny, ain't it? How I can kill an animal myself, using a gun even, but I can't watch that shit. Then again, I've never taken pleasure in the killing and have always worked my hardest to ensure that it was as humane a killing as possible.
Killing a domesticated pet is, I'm hoping, far different from any scenario in which you have killed an animal. Killing a domesticated, non threatening pet is cruel, barbaric, illegal an unacceptable! The manner in which most dogs are killed by cops is basically terrorism.

"The horror! The horror! . . . Exterminate all the brutes!'"
 
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Gawd, why did I have to click on this thread this morning? Not even the bubba bx2 can calm me down after seeing those dog shooting videos. LoL, I'm a mess...
 
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I used to raise pigs for 4H and we slaughtered them ourselves. The horses were always euthanized with a shot (OD of anesthetic). I've had to destroy wild animals I've found terribly injured, only a few occasions were they large enough to require a gun, most were dispatched with a knife or a very sharp blow to the head (I cover their eyes if I can).

So, yes, the scenario is decidedly different. If not for slaughter, then only to end suffering is the only reason I take such actions. It's extremely difficult, for me at least it is.
 
Chronic Monster

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if anyone was wondering about what happened i that Milwaukee case I posted earlier, where the cops shot the ladies dog while looking for a robbery suspect(which they DID NOT find).

Well she sued them and lost. Then the city wanted to be reimbursed 5,000$ for their legal fees...
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/36881919.html
 
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I used to raise pigs for 4H and we slaughtered them ourselves. The horses were always euthanized with a shot (OD of anesthetic). I've had to destroy wild animals I've found terribly injured, only a few occasions were they large enough to require a gun, most were dispatched with a knife or a very sharp blow to the head (I cover their eyes if I can).

So, yes, the scenario is decidedly different. If not for slaughter, then only to end suffering is the only reason I take such actions. It's extremely difficult, for me at least it is.
It has been difficult for me too at times, especially when I was younger. Mercy killings don't bother me so much. I've had to do this a number of times as a mostly catch and release fly fisherman over the years. They always get eaten, so it's not a moral dilemma. I don't hunt, but would have no problem taking down wild game if I decided it was what I wanted to do. Slaughtering farm animals that I hand raised, like you, was extremely difficult when I was young. I was actually a vegetarian all through college because I had decided, in protest if you will, I would not kill again and as such shouldn't eat that which had been killed. But then I stopped being such a pussy and started eating store bought meat again, lol.
 
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if anyone was wondering about what happened i that Milwaukee case I posted earlier, where the cops shot the ladies dog while looking for a robbery suspect(which they DID NOT find).

Well she sued them and lost. Then the city wanted to be reimbursed 5,000$ for their legal fees...
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/36881919.html

OK, that's it....I'm driving to Milwaukee on a Sunday night with 10 lbs. of aluminum and potassium. I'll call in ahead so some poor night janitor isn't taken out by the blast.

*Disclaimer, the above rant was brought to you by the Law firm of Dewey Cheetum, and Howe and is solely meant as humor*.

All kidding aside, Wisconsin is actually one of the better states when it comes to the judicial system. Michigan and Indiana are horrible, Illinois is about on par with eastern states such as NY/NJ.
 
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It has been difficult for me too at times, especially when I was younger. Mercy killings don't bother me so much. I've had to do this a number of times as a mostly catch and release fly fisherman over the years. They always get eaten, so it's not a moral dilemma. I don't hunt, but would have no problem taking down wild game if I decided it was what I wanted to do. Slaughtering farm animals that I hand raised, like you, was extremely difficult when I was young. I was actually a vegetarian all through college because I had decided, in protest if you will, I would not kill again and as such shouldn't eat that which had been killed. But then I stopped being such a pussy and started eating store bought meat again, lol.

The best BBQ I ever ate was a freshly bow-hunted wild boar smoked in a 40 gal split drum grill.

Mmmmmm......think it's time 4/lunch.
 
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Gawd, why did I have to click on this thread this morning? Not even the bubba bx2 can calm me down after seeing those dog shooting videos. LoL, I'm a mess...



you and me both....wasn't planning on smokin today but after that I had to pack a few. My head is still spining
 
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Ya'll should come to new mexico if want to see some corruption.

Don't matter what part of the state, southern, crooked police dept, mayor, etc and supposedly a lot of the judges are getting paid off as well.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXhsciR1c6M[/YOUTUBE]

northern

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVF6lgrtF1c[/YOUTUBE]
 
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