I pull 1.5 lbs per 1kw with the UC

[desertsquirrel]

1 gpw is so 1998.

With the UC the new bar is 2 gpw.

 

[Pimpernickel]

I'm only on my second run but the UC seems incredibly easy to operate to me. Soil/UC yield aside, I veg in one week instead of 3-4, whats that worth right there?

 

[BudGoggles]

I been running UCs for about 2 yrs I think and I pull 3# of 2k at very least every run. The only time I had issues was at the very beginning and most of that was from how I was adding phs and nutes to the system. Since dialed it usually 3.5#s every run. I have about 15-20 runs under my belt and I pull this with out any co2 easiest and most stable system Ive ran yet

1k almost 2#s

1k 1.5#s

These are all different grows and theres a ton more. Its just crop after crop after crop and it always yields at very least 1.5#s

 

[FromGROtoFLO]

1 gpw is so 1998.

With the UC the new bar is 2 gpw.

Mother of god....Has anyone actually seen those numbers? I was always under the assumption vertical growing was the heaviest yielder.

 

[ttystikk]

I've had all the problems with UC style grows, so I can't speak to how well they produce when everything is dialed in, but my early -error ridden- results are promising!

 

[bonz]

good info :)

 

[reggiebaseball]

Mother of god....Has anyone actually seen those numbers? I was always under the assumption vertical growing was the heaviest yielder.

Of course not,
Experienced growers are maybe pulling .75-1gpw with the undercurrent, Texas Kid seems to know his stuff and I take him at his word. HE probably knows more about nutrient chemistry than I ever will, strains, growing, etc. and he pulls numbers that would get a commercial coco grower fired.

In comparison I would say that if you cannot get .75gpw out of an ebb and flow system on your FIRST run that you might be semi-retarded.

Nobody is pulling 2gpw with the UC.

In fact, I still think a dialed in UC pulls less than coco or ebb from what I have seen, and I see even semi experienced growers loosing 20% of their crops while they learn how to "dial it in".

I read threads and see bud pictures here and constantly want to pull the trigger on an UC, but to be honest the actual results are just not there that I can see.

 

[UCMENOW]

UC's just a hydro system bro

Of course not,
Experienced growers are maybe pulling .75-1gpw with the undercurrent, Texas Kid seems to know his stuff and I take him at his word. HE probably knows more about nutrient chemistry than I ever will, strains, growing, etc. and he pulls numbers that would get a commercial coco grower fired.

In comparison I would say that if you cannot get .75gpw out of an ebb and flow system on your FIRST run that you might be semi-retarded.

Nobody is pulling 2gpw with the UC.

In fact, I still think a dialed in UC pulls less than coco or ebb from what I have seen, and I see even semi experienced growers loosing 20% of their crops while they learn how to "dial it in".

I read threads and see bud pictures here and constantly want to pull the trigger on an UC, but to be honest the actual results are just not there that I can see.

Taking into account plant numbers is clearly not a consideration....lucky you.

It's a bit amusing that after the positive responses from current UC growers in this thread you still have managed to draw a negative conclusion?

One things for certain, if you're a quality grower you'll likely do well with whatever method you choose, including the UC. How do you think you would do in a UC?

I'm guessing you better stick with coco ;)

 

[MakinGoo]

1 gpw is so 1998.

With the UC the new bar is 2 gpw.

Now that's MEGA!!! Great work

 

[desertsquirrel]

Of course not,
Experienced growers are maybe pulling .75-1gpw with the undercurrent, Texas Kid seems to know his stuff and I take him at his word. HE probably knows more about nutrient chemistry than I ever will, strains, growing, etc. and he pulls numbers that would get a commercial coco grower fired.

In comparison I would say that if you cannot get .75gpw out of an ebb and flow system on your FIRST run that you might be semi-retarded.

Nobody is pulling 2gpw with the UC.

In fact, I still think a dialed in UC pulls less than coco or ebb from what I have seen, and I see even semi experienced growers loosing 20% of their crops while they learn how to "dial it in".

I read threads and see bud pictures here and constantly want to pull the trigger on an UC, but to be honest the actual results are just not there that I can see.

so sad.

 

[Wavegem]

I want to add I recently purchased my first UC and am in the process of my first run. Everything I learned about this system, how to diagnose problems and come up with solutions has been from this site. Straight up if it wasn't for the CC staff, DS, TK and Jack I would be F***ed!!

You know that saying; you just don't know till you go through it. Well ya, it happened to me. I almost killed my girls from inexperience, but luckily I figured it out from reading tons of grows on this site and making accurate decisions. I had nute def, overfeeding, slime, root rot(burn) and spider mites. It was a nightmare for a couple of weeks. I am not going to get into details, but I fixed every problem. Even though they will never be 100 percent I know for a fact these girls are going to pull massive weight, from soil (FF Ocean Forest) to the UC its not comparable. After a couple of runs I am going to be like "its so easy even a caveman can do it" HAHA

Thanks Dan for such an awesome system.

 

[Capulator]

Of course not,
Experienced growers are maybe pulling .75-1gpw with the undercurrent, Texas Kid seems to know his stuff and I take him at his word. HE probably knows more about nutrient chemistry than I ever will, strains, growing, etc. and he pulls numbers that would get a commercial coco grower fired.

In comparison I would say that if you cannot get .75gpw out of an ebb and flow system on your FIRST run that you might be semi-retarded.

Nobody is pulling 2gpw with the UC.

In fact, I still think a dialed in UC pulls less than coco or ebb from what I have seen, and I see even semi experienced growers loosing 20% of their crops while they learn how to "dial it in".

I read threads and see bud pictures here and constantly want to pull the trigger on an UC, but to be honest the actual results are just not there that I can see.

semi retarded.. really dude?

there are way too many factors involved to make a statement like that.

 

[ALLegal420]

UC sucks.... Soil rules!! lol

If your key elements are dialed then I don't see why 1gpw is to hard to pull in a UC system. We're on the first run so about 8-10 weeks out for further info and it's a DIY setup but same principals apply. Best piece of advice would be to have another medium as backup in case something happens so your eggs aren't all in one basket till ya get it dialed.

Lots of knowledgeable growers on here sharing info and pics... Sure you been reading up around here and not rollitup? :p I've been impressed with the results so far and it's killing some of my other buddies setups... KISS method ;)

-ALLegal420

 

[Buddy Hemphill]

LOL..... I got an email from another board member that sounded alot like this when I enquired about the system he sells....

very similar verbage....

but I am sure no Haters would use multiple screen names.




How many commercial coco growers you know?

Of course not,
Experienced growers are maybe pulling .75-1gpw with the undercurrent, Texas Kid seems to know his stuff and I take him at his word. HE probably knows more about nutrient chemistry than I ever will, strains, growing, etc. and he pulls numbers that would get a commercial coco grower fired.

In comparison I would say that if you cannot get .75gpw out of an ebb and flow system on your FIRST run that you might be semi-retarded.

Nobody is pulling 2gpw with the UC.

In fact, I still think a dialed in UC pulls less than coco or ebb from what I have seen, and I see even semi experienced growers loosing 20% of their crops while they learn how to "dial it in".

I read threads and see bud pictures here and constantly want to pull the trigger on an UC, but to be honest the actual results are just not there that I can see.

 

[All4freedumb]

Mother of god....Has anyone actually seen those numbers? I was always under the assumption vertical growing was the heaviest yielder.

Yes.. I have NYD, 19k vertical-24 trees- 43/44p quality.. That was my first UC run.. Since then it continues..

 

[SofaKingHigh]

Yes.. I have NYD, 19k vertical-24 trees- 43/44p quality.. That was my first UC run.. Since then it continues..

Veg time, veg watts? 8/13gal? Pics?

 

[bigdaddyg8]

i was told the brown slime that gets on the air lines and the buckets is the goop you put on the pvc pipe to install it through the rubber into the bucket .he said as long as the roots look white on the plants not to worry .

 

[All4freedumb]

Veg time, veg watts? 8/13gal? Pics?

Veg time was 2 1/2 weeks on tables and 10 days in the UC, 1st week t5's then two lights over the table and 10k once in the UC. 13 gal and of course its all bs without some pics.... :mmm Here is that run about a week before pull..

 

[reggiebaseball]

Thanks for the replies.
I do not sell growing systems.

I was not sure what the "benefit" of the UC was, that is why I started this thread. Apparently it takes a step (or three) backwards from simpler hydro systems in terms of yield, adds complexity and greater opportunities for failure, while providing the benefit or a more intimate hobbyist experience and fewer plants. The hobbyist does not care if a run blows up, does not mind if his yield to power consumption is poor- it is his hobby.

This is fine, I get it now. I initially had hoped that the new RDWC would open the door to greater yields and be a more efficient method of growing. It clearly is not.

I appreciate your replies.

 

[ALLegal420]

I believe the failures come down to inexperience with this style of growing and/or experience in different mediums of growing which someone will think works in this system which might or might not work. The grows that fail seem to have been lacking one of the key components, over nutrients or lack of proper attention to the plants. The system obviously shows it's results of being killer when dialed in.... So if your to lazy or have a brain fart and do something wrong then ya you will most likely have poor or less than stellar performance. Obviously comes down to the grower and his/her abilities. Pretty much any hydro setup will kill your crop overnight or within a couple days if something goes awry and you don't fix the problem.

Any system has it's ups and downs and I think UC leans toward the former than the latter if run correctly.

Have fun with your coco... Yet another system with it's positives and negatives...

-ALLegal420