H&G's Shooting Powder VS Moab?

[kushsmoker30]

Any 1 use both of these if so witch is better? i know Shooting Powder can be pricey in a res, never used moab but have heard good things bout it. i'm looking for the 1 that works better. Peace

 

[dankworth]

Shooting powder wack, chemmy, sketch. Says on it you should not reuse medium. Fuuuck that.
Moab is groovy, I dig it, I use it. Down to reverse engineer it.

Get MOAB. Fuck shooting powder. For reals.
Run a side by side if you want. You will almost certainly come to the same conclusion I did.

 

[xrob415x]

I have used shooting powder and Moab. The shooting powder dissolves much faster in the reservior than moab. With moab I mix in a warm cup before adding. The biggest downside to the shooting powder is the cost $$ it will probably be your most expensive additive. It does put alot of extra weight onto the bud and makes the calyx burst out but i have had almost identical results with the MOAB for a MUCH cheaper cost. I have not experienced chemmy tastes with either shooting powder or moab. I run drip clean thru the whole run, dont feed at Super high ppm's, water to runoff and give the coco a 7 day flush at the end; this has given me excelent taste so far. I also reuse my coco with both additives after an extreme flush. I have used the same coco for 4 runs now with no problems. I am currently running a MOAB/ Dutch MAsters POTASH 0-4-8(or 9 i forget) combo. I will update u with the results. I chose the potash because it seems almost identical to the original hammerhead, it has the same application weight and instead of like $40 per liter the potash is like $35 per gallon. But bottom line I got similar great results with both but go with moab because its ALOT cheaper!

 

[kushsmoker30]

Thanks dankworth for sharing the game u got brother, thats why i post n ask here cuz of peeps like u always willing to help fellow patients better themselves.

I have used shooting powder and Moab. The shooting powder dissolves much faster in the reservior than moab. With moab I mix in a warm cup before adding. The biggest downside to the shooting powder is the cost $$ it will probably be your most expensive additive. It does put alot of extra weight onto the bud and makes the calyx burst out but i have had almost identical results with the MOAB for a MUCH cheaper cost. I have not experienced chemmy tastes with either shooting powder or moab. I run drip clean thru the whole run, dont feed at Super high ppm's, water to runoff and give the coco a 7 day flush at the end; this has given me excelent taste so far. I also reuse my coco with both additives after an extreme flush. I have used the same coco for 4 runs now with no problems. I am currently running a MOAB/ Dutch MAsters POTASH 0-4-8(or 9 i forget) combo. I will update u with the results. I chose the potash because it seems almost identical to the original hammerhead, it has the same application weight and instead of like $40 per liter the potash is like $35 per gallon. But bottom line I got similar great results with both but go with moab because its ALOT cheaper!

xrob415x Thanks once again G for sharing ur game, now ima ask like this LOL.
when u said u got "almost" identical results with Moab, does that mean that perhaps Shootong powder is a hair better? i know over all Moab, 1 reason i've heard mentioned more then once has been price so if they costed the same n mixed the same would u go with Shooting Powder or Moab? sorry if it's a silly ?
Peace to all the TCH Fram fam.

 

[Dirty White Boy]

Shooting powder wack, chemmy, sketch. Says on it you should not reuse medium. Fuuuck that.
Moab is groovy, I dig it, I use it. Down to reverse engineer it.

Get MOAB. Fuck shooting powder. For reals.
Run a side by side if you want. You will almost certainly come to the same conclusion I did.

yeaaaaaa boyyyyyyyyy! kickin that question in the nads!!!!!

MOAB FO LIFE! or till something better comes along........

 

[Dirty White Boy]

I want to add that there is some mythology surrounding the MOAB those who use it religious will all agree that there is most likely something else added to it, an extract from alfalfa.....but you can use the search for that info no need for another rant and rave...just wanted to add that in there.

 

[paulycali]

Overall MOAB for sure

I noticed a bump in yields but also noticed a decrease in overall smell of the plants given shooting powder

Moab increases yield and doesn't diminish overall smell of the plants

 

[kushsmoker30]

Overall MOAB for sure

I noticed a bump in yields but also noticed a decrease in overall smell of the plants given shooting powder

Moab increases yield and doesn't diminish overall smell of the plants

pualycali thanks for ur reply, dam 1st time i heard that as far as smell goes.

 

[xrob415x]

Hey bro when I said almost identical I meant that I really couldnt tell a difference between the quality or yield. The yield was almost dead on. The only thing I like about the shooting powder is how easily and quickly it breaks down in the water. I run sprayers so this is important to me. But even this wasnt enough to keep me using shooting powder. One different I also noticed was that the full dose of shooting powder was about 100 ppms higher than the full moab dose. Bruh take it from me I have used almost every line. Try to go a cheaper route, look at price and concentrations. Dial in your enviorment then do some side by sides thats what I did. But more often than not there is always a cheaper alternative thats just as effective.

 

[ProdigyGrower]

I have asked this a few times but i'll ask it here has any one used canna pk 13/14 with moab? I would think it would give you the same results as the hammer head moab combo. Oh one more thing has any one used any other of mad farmer nutes besides MOAB like their silica product it seems like a good silica product and I think its cheaper than silica blast from botanicare.

 

[paulycali]

pualycali thanks for ur reply, dam 1st time i heard that as far as smell goes.

Your welcome! Def kills the smells for sure. Possibly even trichome production. Go with MOAB or try something different

Hey prodigy, Hammerhead and Canna pk 13/14 are basically the same product so if you have used the MOAB and Hammerhead combo then its fine to use MOAB and PK 13/14 combo. I personally stop using pk 13/14 when adding MOAB or any other related nutrient. For the silica i haven't tried mad farmers version personally but have heard it does the job

Good luck and hope that helps :)

 

[kushsmoker30]

Drity Whit Boy Thanks for ur reply, looking like Moab for me.

Hey bro when I said almost identical I meant that I really couldnt tell a difference between the quality or yield. The yield was almost dead on. The only thing I like about the shooting powder is how easily and quickly it breaks down in the water. I run sprayers so this is important to me. But even this wasnt enough to keep me using shooting powder. One different I also noticed was that the full dose of shooting powder was about 100 ppms higher than the full moab dose. Bruh take it from me I have used almost every line. Try to go a cheaper route, look at price and concentrations. Dial in your enviorment then do some side by sides thats what I did. But more often than not there is always a cheaper alternative thats just as effective.

Thank U player for taking some time n answering my ? deff clear now witch product is the better choice.

 

[ProdigyGrower]

Your welcome! Def kills the smells for sure. Possibly even trichome production. Go with MOAB or try something different

Hey prodigy, Hammerhead and Canna pk 13/14 are basically the same product so if you have used the MOAB and Hammerhead combo then its fine to use MOAB and PK 13/14 combo. I personally stop using pk 13/14 when adding MOAB or any other related nutrient. For the silica i haven't tried mad farmers version personally but have heard it does the job

Good luck and hope that helps :)

Thanks hommie I appreciate it i honestly yhink that the canna pk is better than the hammer head and a gallon of cann pk is only like 80$ so its also cheaper than the hammer head. Why did you stop using the hammer head with moab did you get the same results with just using the moab???

 

[greenthumbdanny]

canna p/k is not better than hammerhead imvho<<Ive tried canna<<It lacks that push that hammerhead has>>>my hammerhead/MOAB combo is the shit when it comes to swell factor like no other<<<

gtd

 

[kushsmoker30]

canna p/k is not better than hammerhead imvho<<Ive tried canna<<It lacks that push that hammerhead has>>>my hammerhead/MOAB combo is the shit when it comes to swell factor like no other<<<

gtd

Thanks gtd, i know ya know ur stuff. so if hammerhead like top booster ? or what do it come pair to?

 

[paulycali]

Thanks hommie I appreciate it i honestly yhink that the canna pk is better than the hammer head and a gallon of cann pk is only like 80$ so its also cheaper than the hammer head. Why did you stop using the hammer head with moab did you get the same results with just using the moab???

Still use them both just not together

Once it's time to add the MOAB i put down the bottle of Hammerhead or Cann pk 13/14 and its time for the swelling :)

 

[kushsmoker30]

Still use them both just not together

Once it's time to add the MOAB i put down the bottle of Hammerhead or Cann pk 13/14 and its time for the swelling :)

so u use hammerhead like u would use top booster around week 5 for an 8 week strain?

 

[greenthumbdanny]

yes you can use hammerhead as a stand alone<<i do starting week 2 of flower>> then come week 5 and 6 you want to use the combo together<<depending on your flowering time. 2.5ml hammerhead per gallon along with 6 heaping tablespoons of MOAB per 100 gallon reservoir<<<

paulycali>>>you need to use the combo in conjunction with one another to achieve full bud swell.

Canna P/K is good i just like the results that hammerhead gave me>>i can see them results after week 2 when starting bud set<<big difference in the two<<hammerhead really kicks there ass in gear..

gtd

 

[xrob415x]

Hey GTD I been trying to get my nute costs as low as possible while keeping the same results. I started with shooting powder, then moved to straight moab, then Moab/HH. The hammerhead is pretty pricey so I found POTASH from dutch masters. It is a 0-4-8or9 ( the same as original HH). It also has the same application rate at 5ml per gal. I am trying a run with it right now. Any thoughts on this, since the ratios are the same shouldn't results be the same? I get a whole gal of POTASH for like $35.

 

[ProdigyGrower]

yes you can use hammerhead as a stand alone<<i do starting week 2 of flower>> then come week 5 and 6 you want to use the combo together<<depending on your flowering time. 2.5ml hammerhead per gallon along with 6 heaping tablespoons of MOAB per 100 gallon reservoir<<<

paulycali>>>you need to use the combo in conjunction with one another to achieve full bud swell.

Canna P/K is good i just like the results that hammerhead gave me>>i can see them results after week 2 when starting bud set<<big difference in the two<<hammerhead really kicks there ass in gear..

gtd

cool thank GD i know you have ben killin it with the combo for a min i'll just go with the hammer head i was just gonna go with the canna because i'm gonna use canna coco a&B or heavy 16 for a base what base are you rockin bro? Any way thanks for the info hommie much appreciated stay frosty bro peace.