Cali Busts

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Ive been seeing some of these sentences coming down to Cali Growers caught up in this "Crackdown"

God damn that is some harsh shit for growing herb.



Thats just a couple. IF you look in the archives there are a ton of em. Be safe everyone.
 
fishwhistle

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Growing weed or Manufacturing as the DEA likes to call it is subject to the same sentences as manufacturing methamphetamine or heroin all schedule 1 controlled substances,there will be no ''legal'' marijuana anywhere until this is changed federally.Most of the time this means 10 yrs minimum to life,yes you read that right.heres a little blurb to contemplate;

Schedule I controlled substances

Main article: List of Schedule I drugs (US)
Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
  1. The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
  2. The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
  3. There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.[26]
No prescriptions may be written for Schedule I substances, and such substances are subject to production quotas by the DEA.
Under the DEA's interpretation of the CSA, a drug does not necessarily have to have the same abuse potential as heroin or cocaine to merit placement in Schedule I (in fact, cocaine is currently a Schedule II drug due to limited medical use.)
[W]hen it comes to a drug that is currently listed in schedule I, if it is undisputed that such drug has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States and a lack of accepted safety for use under medical supervision, and it is further undisputed that the drug has at least some potential for abuse sufficient to warrant control under the CSA, the drug must remain in schedule I. In such circumstances, placement of the drug in schedules II through V would conflict with the CSA since such drug would not meet the criterion of "a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States." 21 USC]] 812(b).[27]​
Sentences for first-time, non-violent offenders convicted of trafficking in Schedule I drugs can easily turn into de facto life sentences when multiple sales are prosecuted in one proceeding.[28] Sentences for violent offenders are much higher.
Drugs in this schedule include:
  • αMT (alpha-methyltryptamine), an anti-depressant from the tryptamine family; first developed in the Soviet Union and marketed under the brand name Indopan.
  • BZP (benzylpiperazine), a synthetic stimulant once sold as a designer drug. It has been shown to be associated with an increase in seizures if taken alone.[29] Although the effects of BZP are not as potent as MDMA, it can produce neuroadaptions that can cause an increase in the potential for abuse of this drug.[30]
  • Cathinone, an amphetamine-like stimulant found in the shrub Catha edulis (khat).
  • DMT (dimethyltryptamine), a naturally-occurring psychedelic drug that is widespread throughout the plant kingdom and endogenous to the human body. DMT is the main psychoactive constituent in the psychedelic South American brew, ayahuasca, for which the UDV are granted exemption from DMT's schedule I status on the grounds of religious freedom.
  • GHB, a general anaesthetic and treatment for narcolepsy-cataplexy and alcohol withdrawal with minimal side-effects [31] and controlled action but a limited safe dosage range. It was placed in Schedule I in March 2000 after widespread recreational use led to increased emergency room visits, hospitalizations, and deaths.[32] Uniquely, this drug is also listed in Schedule III for limited uses, under the trademark Xyrem.
  • Heroin (diacetylmorphine), which is used in some European countries as a potent pain reliever in terminal cancer patients, and as second option, after morphine (it is about twice as potent, by weight, as morphine). In Switzerland, it is prescribed to intravenous heroin addicts who have not responded to other forms of treatment.[33]
  • LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide), a semi-synthetic psychedelic drug famous for its involvement in the counterculture of the 1960s.
  • Marijuana including the cannabis plant and its cannabinoids.
  • MDMA ("ecstasy"), a stimulant, psychedelic, and entactogenic drug which initially garnered attention in psychedelic therapy as a treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). The medical community originally agreed upon placing it as a Schedule III substance, but the government denied this suggestion, despite two court rulings by the DEA's administrative law judge that placing MDMA in Schedule I was illegal. It was temporarily unscheduled after the first administrative hearing from December 22, 1987 – July 1, 1988.[34]
  • Mescaline, a naturally-occurring psychedelic drug and the main psychoactive constituent of peyote (Lophophora williamsii), San Pedro cactus (Echinopsis pachanoi), and Peruvian torch cactus (Echinopsis peruviana).
  • Methaqualone (Quaalude, Sopor, Mandrax), a sedative that was previously used for similar purposes as barbiturates, until it was rescheduled.
  • Peyote (Lophophora williamsii), a cactus growing in nature primarily in northeastern Mexico; one of the few plants specifically scheduled, with a narrow exception to its legal status for religious use by members of the Native American Church.
  • Psilocybin and psilocin, naturally-occurring psychedelic drugs and the main psychoactive constituents of psilocybin mushrooms.
  • Controlled substance analogs intended for human consumption (as defined by the Federal Analog Act)
 
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I am just curious but do many people get busted or catch a lot of shit for having 24-48 plants that are hookin dispensaries up with 30-50lb all year? Just seems like super small fry out in Cali when I read about people unloading 20+ per trip and have 20k grows..just wondering how easy it is to stay under the radar out there
 
fishwhistle

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An interesting thing that i read about the sandusky/g3 holistics trial was they did not catch him with 1000 plants but instead determined he had ''worked with over 1000 in the course of his business",how many of us have "worked" with over 1000?crazy shit,they just make it up as they go i think.
 
Capulator

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Didn't sandusky continue to operate in the face of letters giving him notice? Pretty dumb if you ask me. I mean it sucks he got 10 years, but it sure is easy for them to make an example of you if you. Especially when you think you can win... If the DEA sends you a letter to stop within 30 days, it's pretty much game over if you don't, no?
 
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fishwhistle said:
An interesting thing that i read about the sandusky/g3 holistics trial was they did not catch him with 1000 plants but instead determined he had ''worked with over 1000 in the course of his business",how many of us have "worked" with over 1000?crazy shit,they just make it up as they go i think.
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I've seen this elsewhere as well, the Feds can get you for conspiring to grow so many over the course of like 5yrs, something like that and of course they can do whatever they want so if u had 25 I'm sure if they wanted to they could get you for conspiring to grow more than 99 over 5yrs which again is ludacris to me
 
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fishwhistle said:
An interesting thing that i read about the sandusky/g3 holistics trial was they did not catch him with 1000 plants but instead determined he had ''worked with over 1000 in the course of his business",how many of us have "worked" with over 1000?crazy shit,they just make it up as they go i think.
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Yes they charge you with accumalitive numbers over a period of time. BS..
 
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Capulator said:
Didn't sandusky continue to operate in the face of letters giving him notice? Pretty dumb if you ask me. I mean it sucks he got 10 years, but it sure is easy for them to make an example of you if you. Especially when you think you can win... If the DEA sends you a letter to stop within 30 days, it's pretty much game over if you don't, no?
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Yeah i think your right cap and i agree its crazy IMO to continue in the face of that but some do, look at harborside.The deal with sandusky was the cities and county were sending the letters at first and he was taking them to court and they knew it was gonna cost them to fight it and that he was operating well within state law so they would probably lose,so the mayor of upland sent a letter to the DEA asking for their help because he was in a losing situation and voila,DEA kicks in the doors.I assume the same can happen in any state,no matter the state laws,definitely over riding the will of the people but hey i guess theres more than one way to skin a cat,cant fight city hall and all that,lol.
 
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I don't think the Feds are going to care about you if you are growing under 100 plants. If the Feds are kickin in your door it's because you either are growing way above your numbers or you made yourself a target in some other way.
 
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There are only a number of Federal agents .there effectiveness is demenished as the States fall away from the insain war on drugs things are still swinging towards liberalized medical canibis.it s just a matter of time when it will be all 50 States vs. The Fedral Government?
 
Amber

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True but "in due time is only cool when you have the time. Some of us may have to do time while they try and find the time to end the war. Hope time is on your side cause its non refundable once taken.
 
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While my heart goes out to anyone who gets arrested for any number of plants--I think that report shows pretty clearly again that the DEA is demonized about exactly as much as the DEA demonizes cannabis cultivators.

It really goes both ways on this one ladies and gents. The DEA administration is absolutely ridiculous--and I'll give you that freely without argument, but most of the boots on the ground type of guys are just doing their jobs and following up where the evidence leads them.

1,000 plants is clearly not within the purview of state law--and while again I think constitutionally we should have the right to grow what we want when we want, that right is currently not recognized and the enforcement as it regards this issue is shown repeatedly to follow exactly the roadmap that Obama laid out (i.e. people following state law get a pass--those who don't face federal prosecution).

I think really what goes so far towards demonizing it is that the penalties, as was mentioned here, ARE so hefty.

It feels wrong that growing a plant holds a 5 year mandatory minimum, yet for some reason a fair number of rapists are able to get out prison with the same sentence. The shit doesn't match up, and I'm on board with that--but that is a legislative problem, not an administrative one.
 
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Re Sandusky, found this interesting...google:
Santa Fe Springs official took bribes while lying to FBI
 
Oil Dragon

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" 49,206 marijuana plants seized from public lands on the Sierra National Forest in Fresno and Madera Counties and 8,847 marijuana plants in the Sequoia National Forest in Tulare County"

"1,163 marijuana plants and 1,723 pounds of processed marijuana were found at his residence on agricultural land in Reedley"

" 920 marijuana plants cultivated on private ranch land "
 
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