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Ok So I need some help.

I have always been a organic grower but since I started running sterile setup in coco I sold my growonyx and bought a filter for my tap. The Filter filters out Chlorine and has a life of 20,000 gallons at 1GPm rate of flow. I have used no where near that amount of water. So Since I havent had my RO, i no longer get foam on my teas. Even with your bennies. I checked the PPM of my Tap and its 260 and out of the Filter is 260. So im guessing this filter either isnt getting Chlorine or maybe there is some thing else in my tap.So i looked up the water report.



Antimony (ppb) 2011 6 6 0.30 0–0.30 No Discharge from petroleum refineries; Fire retardants; Ceramics; Electronics; Solder

Arsenic (ppb) 2011 10 NA 9.21 0.86–9.21 No Erosion of natural deposits; runoff from orchards; runoff from glass and electronics production wastes

Atrazine (ppb) 2011 3 3 0.25 0–0.25 No Runoff from herbicide used on row crops

Barium (ppm) 2011 2 2 0.04 0.02–0.04 No Discharge of drilling wastes; Discharge from metal refineries; Erosion of natural deposits

Beta/Photon Emitters(pCi/L)2011 50 0 5 0–5 No Decay of natural and man-made deposits

Chloramines (ppm) 2011 [4] [4] 5.0 0.22–5.0 No Water additive used to control microbes

Chromium (ppb) 2011 100 100 5.07 0.45–5.07 No Discharge from steel and pulp mills; Erosion of natural deposits

Cyanide (ppb) 2011 200 200 7.6 0–7.6 No Discharge from steel/metal factories; Discharge from plastic and fertilizer factories

Fluoride (ppm) 2011 4 4 1.16 0.6–1.16 No Erosion of natural deposits; Water additive which promotes strong teeth; Discharge from fertilizer and aluminum factories

Haloacetic Acids [HAA](ppb)2011 60 NA 27 3.8–27 No By-product of drinking water disinfection

Nitrate (ppm) 2011 10 10 0.60 0.23–0.60 No Runoff from fertilizer use; Leaching from septic tanks, sewage; Erosion of natural deposits

Nitrite (ppm) 2011 1 1 0 0–0 No Runoff from fertilizer use; Leaching from septic tanks, sewage; Erosion of natural deposits

Selenium (ppb) 2011 50 50 3.22 0–3.22 No Discharge from petroleum and metal refineries; Erosion of natural deposits; Discharge from mines

Simazine (ppb) 2011 4 4 0.16 0–0.16 No Herbicide runoff

TTHMs [Total

Trihalomethanes] (ppb)2011 80 NA 37.1 6.3–37.1 No By-product of drinking water disinfection

Total Coliform Bacteria (%positive samples) 2011 More than 5% positive monthly samples 0 1.21 NA No Naturally present in the environment



There isnt even chlorine in my tap. Looks like its the Chloramine but that doesnt evaporate. I really dont want to use a RO filter its way too wasteful. Any ideas?

Do you see any thing else that can be killing the Bacterias?
 
#2
I'm organic, and use a chlorine/chloramine filter. My teas brew just fine. I found with some carb sources foAm is far less active.

outwest
 
#6
THose are the ones I have but I had the fcoo1 and it only filters out chlorine but I ordered the fc027 and that one gets chloramine. Just need to get a flow meter on my spickett so I dont go past .5 gpm.
 
#7
All the water meters only go to 1gpm . None are rated down to .5gpm. ..... :mad:
 
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ReCway said:
All the water meters only go to 1gpm . None are rated down to .5gpm. ..... :mad:
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You just pointed out something very important. I have not been using anything to restrict flow rate.

outwest
 
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outwest said:
You just pointed out something very important. I have not been using anything to restrict flow rate.

outwest
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Yea I think that plays a big role in filtering capabilities but since you get foam on your teas then I think your rate of flow is still good. I checked mine with a Gallon jug and timed it for the rate of flow that I wanted and then marked the water spicket. Only problem is I was filtering for Chlorine. I Should have checked my local water report first. Those Chloramine filters run out fast too. 2500 gallons . I use about 40 gallons a day so thats 60 days of use.

Alot of cities are changing over to Chloramine from Chlorine and Chloramine does not evaporate so if you run anything organic and you dont filter out your chloramine then its gonna kill everything. Chlorine and Chloramine are two very different things and my dumbass is just figuring this out..
 
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caveman4.20 said:
Traces of pharmaceuticals are in water also could kill bacreria
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Please do keep in mind a few things, though these may not be the issue:

1. Organisms should be added to a nutrient-laden medium, not in the reverse order. IE nutes first, pH the medium, then add bennies.

2. They need more than just sugar to multiply. Most enzymes require cofactors and most of these tend to be positive ions such as Mg--tossing in some micros and some other minerals (sulfur, mg, etc) but in much smaller amounts than required for plants is probably a great idea.

One thing that always confuses me about this is the disconnect between the process of brewing teas in the field, and that of cultivating bacteria in a lab setting.

The biggest confusion I have, I suppose, is the missing step (from the lab equivalent) of balancing the ionic strength of the nutrient broth.

If this is off, you'll have bacteria exploding/dessicating all over the place (depending on which direction it is off in). This all results from osmosis and is basically the biggest concern in the lab with growing bacteria.

Yet somehow, no mention of it anywhere in any brewing resource I've ever come across.

As of late I've been trying to think of a way to source materials to create an analog of phosphate buffer tablets for a large scale tea brewing application.

I think this will have to be a novel buffer, because the ones in use in laboratories are FAR too expensive to warrant use here (where we already have a model that works--even if we don't know how or why).

I've been trying to do some personal work to get this right--but I've had some issues finding a proper microscope that is priced well and comes with an appropriate warranty and customer service. They mostly appear to be knock off Chinese brands.
 
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caveman4.20 said:
Traces of pharmaceuticals are in water also could kill bacreria
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Yeah but I dont see any traces of pharmaceuticals in my city water report. All though I do agree that they can kill bacteria I dont think this is the cause for my problem. I least I hope that If there were any traces of pharms that the report would state it.
 
#13
80% of what goes down our houses drain is recycled and the majority of pharmies anti biotics so what's the main method of disposal and I'm just throwing that out there ... Squiggly how do hospitals and other major clinics dispose of bad recalled outdated what have you mess that fall on floor etc. even pharma plants how do they dispose of whatever needs disposed?
 
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caveman4.20 said:
80% of what goes down our houses drain is recycled and the majority of pharmies anti biotics so what's the main method of disposal and I'm just throwing that out there ... Squiggly how do hospitals and other major clinics dispose of bad recalled outdated what have you mess that fall on floor etc. even pharma plants how do they dispose of whatever needs disposed?
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Most areas have a program for pharmaceutical disposal, which is where you should take your expired/un-needed meds.

Pharmaceutical plants will have their own EPA/FDA required standards. In most cases you'll find that there isn't much waste in this industry. They tend to recycle everything in house--the bottom line for these companies is hopelessly linked to reagent cost.

Most of the research that I do, and which is done in the pharmaceutical field, is not new R&D into new drugs, but rather cost reduction research for producing existing drugs.

This is why stuff like HIV protease inhibitors become cheaper over time.

There are other processes which take place at a water treatment plant which will destroy and filter out many pharmaceutical compounds.


If there is no take-back program in your area, the proper way to dispose of meds is the following.

If you have children/pets:

1. Mix the spent meds with something undesirable like used coffee grounds--this will make them less appealing to children and pets.

No matter what:

2. Seal the medication in a plastic baggie or something similar to prevent leakage.

3. Scratch off all identifying information from your pill bottles--to protect your identity.

4. Throw it all out with the trash, preferably nest the bag of meds in a place in the bag (in the center of the trash) where it the bag will be less likely to rupture.
 
#15
What about fluoride does that have phosphorous in it because high phosphorous destroys bennies?
 
#17
squiggly said:
Fluoride is just the ion of the element fluorine (like chlorine and chloride ions--both of these elements belong to the same group, the halogens). Fluoride is toxic to many bacteria.
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dammit so i need to filter out flouride too?
 
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