Canadas new marijuana laws.....

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The Conservative government is launching a $1.3-billion free market in medical marijuana on Tuesday, eventually providing an expected 450,000 Canadians with quality weed.
Health Canada is phasing out an older system on Monday that mostly relied on small-scale, homegrown medical marijuana of varying quality, often diverted illegally to the black market.
In its place, large indoor marijuana farms certified by the RCMP and health inspectors will produce, package and distribute a range of standardized weed, all of it sold for whatever price the market will bear. The first sales are expected in the next few weeks, delivered directly by secure courier.
"We're fairly confident that we'll have a healthy commercial industry in time," Sophie Galarneau, a senior official with the department, said in an interview.
"It's a whole other ball game."
The sanctioned birth of large-scale, free-market marijuana production comes as the Conservatives pillory Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau's campaign to legalize recreational marijuana.
Health Canada is placing no limits on the number of these new capital-intensive facilities, which will have mandatory vaults and security systems. Private-dwelling production will be banned. Imports from places such as the Netherlands will be allowed.
Already 156 firms have applied for lucrative producer and distributor status since June, with the first two receiving licences just last week.
'Enormous' potential profit

The old system fostered only a cottage industry, with 4,200 growers licensed to produce for a maximum of two patients each. The Mounties have complained repeatedly these grow-ops were often a front for criminal organizations.
The next six months are a transition period, as Health Canada phases out the old system by March 31, while encouraging medical marijuana users to register under the replacement regime and to start buying from the new factory-farms.
There are currently 37,400 medical marijuana users recognized by the department, but officials project that number will swell more than 10-fold, to as many as 450,000 people, by 2024.
The profit potential is enormous. A gram of dried marijuana bud on the street sells for about $10 and Health Canada projects the legal stuff will average about $7.60 next year, as producers set prices without interference from government.
Chuck Rifici of Tweed Inc. has applied for a licence to produce medical weed in an abandoned Hershey chocolate factory in hard-scrabble Smiths Falls, Ont.
Rifici, who is also a senior adviser to Trudeau, was cited in a Conservative cabinet minister's news release Friday that said the Liberals plan to "push pot," with no reference to Health Canada's own encouragement of marijuana entrepreneurs.
Rifici says he's trying to help a struggling community by providing jobs while giving suffering patients a quality product.
"There's a real need," he said in an interview. "You see what this medicine does to them."
Revenue to hit $1.3 billion

Tweed Inc. proposes to produce at least 20 strains to start, and will reserve 10 per cent of production for compassionate, low-cost prescriptions for impoverished patients, he says.
Patients often use several grams a day to alleviate a wide range of symptoms, including cancer-related pain and nausea. They'll no longer be allowed to grow it for themselves under the new rules.
Revenues for the burgeoning new industry are expected to hit $1.3 billion a year by 2024, according to federal projections. And operators would be favourably positioned were marijuana ever legalized for recreational use, as it has been in two American states.
Eric Nash of Island Harvest in Duncan, B.C., has applied for one of the new licences, banking on his experience as a licensed grower since 2002 in the current system.
"The opportunity in the industry is significant," he said in an interview.
"We'll see a lot of moving and shaking within the industry, with companies positioning. And I think we'll see some mergers and acquisitions, strategic alliances formed."
"It'll definitely yield benefits to the consumers and certainly for the economy and society in general."
Competition to keep prices in check

Veterans Affairs Canada currently pays for medical marijuana for some patients, even though the product lacks official drug status. Some provinces are also being pressed to cover costs, as many users are too sick to work and rely on welfare.
Health Canada currently sells medical marijuana, produced on contract by Prairie Plant Systems, for $5 a gram, and acknowledges the new system will be more expensive for patients.
But Galarneau says competition will help keep prices in check.
"We expect that over time, prices will be driven down by the free market," she said. "The lower price range will likely be around $3 a gram. ... It's hard to predict."
Saskatoon-based Prairie Plant Systems, and its subsidiary CanniMed Ltd., were granted the first two licences under the system and are already advertising their new products on the web.
Prospective patients, including those under the current system, must get a medical professional to prescribe medical marijuana using a government-approved form.
Health Canada only reluctantly established its medical marijuana program, driven by court decisions from 2001 forward that supported the rights of suffering patients, even as medical science has been slow to verify efficacy.
 
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All this does is make honest people criminals. 3$ a gram who the fuck do you think your kidding, 10$ maybe but $3 not going to happen. All they have done is made it cost prohibitive to buy legal meds, the dealers must be just killing themselves laughing. IMHO

This whole change is just the gov doing some CYA and trying to look like they are hard on crime, utter stupidity....
 
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I dunno woods I think $3 a gram is totally possible if it is being grown on a massive scale, and subsidized for medical necessity. If we are talking commercial, legal cultivation even indoors there is no reason why it should cost more than $5 a gram in a legal marketplace.
 
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.12 cents a kW
x 12 hours a day = $1.44 per day
x 56 for your average 8 week strain = $80.64
maybe add an extra $50 for fans and such.
another $100 for food maybe
so we are at 230.64 now. How many oz's can YOU grow under 1KW in 8 weeks?
divided by lets say 8 oz = 28.83 an oz cost of overhead.
waaaaaaaaaaaay less than 5 dollars a gram WEED HAS THE MOST MARKUP THAN ANY OTHER DRUG
 
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.12 cents a kW
x 12 hours a day = $1.44 per day
x 56 for your average 8 week strain = $80.64
maybe add an extra $50 for fans and such.
another $100 for food maybe
so we are at 230.64 now. How many oz's can YOU grow under 1KW in 8 weeks?
divided by lets say 8 oz = 28.83 an oz cost of overhead.
waaaaaaaaaaaay less than 5 dollars a gram WEED HAS THE MOST MARKUP THAN ANY OTHER DRUG

You forgot all the other shit to go with that light bill, access charges, recovery fees, sales tax, What about Veg time, you have a strain that takes no veg time, Were you starting from seeds, were they Free ?, Or did you cut clones of from a mother plant that lives in the dark with no lights running over it for 18 + hrs a day, and that mother plant doesn't use any food either, I would like to see some where your going to run just 1k light 12 hrs a day for only $1.44, you might better figure closer to $100.00 per light per month where I live..;)
 
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Home growers can sell grams for 5 if they really wanted to....

They could, but why should they when their customers would just turn around and flip it at 150% profit and make more than the grower. I gave people super cheap bud when I was growing but only because I knew they were using it themselves and not reselling it.
 
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#1) I doubt they could grow every strain that people want.
#2) Growing herb can be as good a medicine as smoking it.
#3) Canadian government makes laws..Canadians break those laws every day.
 
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8oz off a 1000...???? I pull 24-32 off a 600....4 heavy yielders 8oz each....4 medium ones 6 or 7oz each.....and nutrients don't cost shit for one run that size, good soil and your good to go...the most costly thing is running the light.....after you have your setup and don't buy into the 10 bottle nutrient scam you can keep things going with a few bulbs here and there and soil.....my setup cost almost nothing to keep going, 1oz per run covers the bills......if I was to sell bud I could charge a buck a gram and make 800 every 65days.......people mark the price up mainly because the labor it takes and care they give, it takes time to get nice plants that yield well...and why not sell it for as much as you can get,,,,your taking a risk.......but if the government is gonna grow it, then fuck that I want my shit for a buck, after all don't they say "it can't be sold for profit" let them see how it feels to do all that work and not make a buck.....but that will never happen because if they ain't getting money off the deal then it will stay illegal so they can keep raiding and making bank on court fines and jail..
 
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They could, but why should they when their customers would just turn around and flip it at 150% profit and make more than the grower. I gave people super cheap bud when I was growing but only because I knew they were using it themselves and not reselling it.

I'm not saying they should,,,,,but they could
 
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8oz off a 1000...???? I pull 24-32 off a 600....4 heavy yielders 8oz each....4 medium ones 6 or 7oz each.....and nutrients don't cost shit for one run that size, good soil and your good to go...the most costly thing is running the light.....after you have your setup and don't buy into the 10 bottle nutrient scam you can keep things going with a few bulbs here and there and soil.....my setup cost almost nothing to keep going, 1oz per run covers the bills......if I was to sell bud I could charge a buck a gram and make 800 every 65days.......people mark the price up mainly because the labor it takes and care they give, it takes time to get nice plants that yield well...


I like the way TK puts it..I don't charge people for weed, but I charge about $3,200 to trim an elbow.
 
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Haha....I charge 3'200 for having to hear how every asshole can get it cheaper from their "boy".......I don't sell shit just for that reason, it fucking annoys the hell outta me
 
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Nothing worse then a flea market drug deal.....250oz ...I can get sour for 200,,,how about 190 ? Deal 190 and a blowjob it is....fuckers
 
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For sure clock, fuck that noize. . . Buds aren't one size fits all, the good shit is going to cost you. Every mofo out there can sell 56 days premature sour D cheap, the ones who do it right (probably less than 10% of growers) know you cannot fake the real deal 10-12 week fully ripened manna from heaven. I'd rather buy from the guy who asks top dollar and then negotiates a little bit lower than the guy who is selling at blow out bargain basement prices to start with, cuz you know they invested themselves in the product and did it right.
 
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You ain't kidding...everyone says "sour,, sour,...if you run that sour I'll buy as mush as I can afford" ....... well 5 handjobs later you get you paws on a cut and 100 days after that your shit is drying...then comes the bullshit, people compair the bud everyone raves over to exactly what you said "50-56 day trash that didn't even swell" .......so let me get this straight, you want a fuckin clone only strain that that takes 2 seasons outta the year to finish and then your gonna haggle the price down using a story of how your boy has big bang for 150oz that "smells good" and now your not sure......Gandhi would slap a person for saying some stupid shit like that..........but now you have to explain the whole process to this fuckin jackass , from finding the clone to how its organically grown and the 80-100 days you let it bloom because you give a fuck about your product and reputation and they still don't understand.....that shit kills me bro...I'm done with mindless idiots....now I will trade bud with a few other growers, people who respect the strains and care about whats going on.....someone could be on their knees begging for bud and they are shit outta luck.....
 
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Anyone who constantly refers to their "boy", they always seem to fall into two categories. White boys wearing famous stars&straps gear, or juggalos. You know the next thing they say is always going to be some stupid shit.
AAAlol
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Hahaha, from now on do all your deals under a hanging piano and as soon as you hear the words "my boy" tug the string and whistle casually 3 times as you calmly walk away....lol
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