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ShroomKing

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Ok. I'm am making an educated guess based on your nutrient list above.

Your using or were using multiple bloom boosters.....

Your suffering from potassium overload.

And you might want to research the effects of superthrive while in bloom. I would flush and then finish flush by watering with a half strength nutrients and then resuming a feed-water-feed schedule till finish. Best of luck.
Peace
 
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Dunge said:
Please give us a full plant shot so we can see how pervasive this is?
If they are all old lowers, this may be a survivable problem.
I'd like to see a shot of this in an early stage.
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I had this handy of a late stage plant near time to pull. so some is simply age but the tip burn makes me think at some point it was over feed...I'll put some more up in a bit
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Muckman420

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The Hippy said:
Wow thanks everyone for your valuable time, i really appreciate you experts help !

It seems to affect the older fan leaves first. But then even the new leaves in the buds will start to do it as well.
It affect all the strains I have mainly the same. I get some of this in Veg as well so fel it maybe a common problem in my water mix up.
I have tried just adding only 4-5 ml cal mag to my R/O water and feeding that only as a way of letting them settle out ?? Maybe recover a bit ...Just grasping I guess.
I was always told to back off and go easy if you see trouble. So i have been mixing less nutes for feeding and less cal-mag in both watering and feeding cycles. In other word easing up...maybe that is wrong..I just don't know

I'm from Canada so the products are not familiar to everyone...I put the links to them here.
Nutes I use are

DNF Formula for Bloom part A & B and in veg the Part A & B

DNF Bloom fortifier and veg fortifier in veg

Or Monster Bloom instead of the DNF bloom fortifier

Cal- mag
I was also using Super Thrive but it has become unavailable here so switched to this.
Aussie tonic. It's supposed to be the same as Super Thrive

I was using this as well but have backed off in an effort to simplify things
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Those are basically my nutes and I use some Carbo sweeter product lightly that acts as mollasses would I assume ??
DNF Carbo Logic


So basically Start with Ro at 0 TDS and after adding
DNF part A & B
DNF Bloom fortifier
Cal- mag @ 5 ml per gallon/litre
DNF Carbo logic

I end up at 700-800 TDS

Oh ya and always PH it all to 6.5%
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What strains are you runnin? My girls like ph around 5.8-6.2 ish and I'm using tap, but what @ShroomKing said sounds legit. Have any of your whole nutrient/water mixes been cloudy after mixing? Some nute combos don't mix well and lock each other out, read that somewhere, I'll see if I can find the page again.
 
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Muckman420

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Not quite an even fade... But the buds look good, I'm takin a seat so I can see how this goes.
 
smokin jay

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You should flush the plants about every 4 weeks roughly. They will only use what they need then everything else gets left behind causing a salt buildup. I would run 1/4 strength nutes through it and check run off ppms. They shouldn't be much higher than your starting solution. If they are over 200 ppms of starting solution you most likely have a salt buildup IMO, and should continue to flush plants till ppm run off is equivalent to starting solution. That salt build up can cause leaf burn and a multitude of deficiencies due to lockout. On a positive note the bud does look good!
 
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I agree with smokin J get a ppm meter and measure your tap water then your ro water
 
showmegreen

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MY GOD!
I appologize if I may be offend'n any y'all but if I threw ya in a bucket of chemicals do ya think yer hairs wouldnt fall out an yer liver n kidney wouldnt be hate'n ya? I know mine'd jump right out my skin!
All them thar companies must be promisin a yeild o gold flaked nuggs er sumptin.
My advise is ta tone back the nutes an if they need sumptin they'll tell ya. An usually before its too late.
@The Hippy jus epsom salt no need ta throw more calcium at it.
Starve them girls!
If you are in dirt you got enough feed fer ayear frum tha sound of it. But ya must be hydro cause checkin ppms. I dont know much bout hydro'n so aint much help there.
When ya RO water ya take out all the good with the bad. Really if ya use cooled from hot tap water alot of the good stays in anf yhe chlorine and most implemented "sanitizers" evaporate. Tap water usually has enough cal already in it. I dont know wat cal has ta do with potassium but pert sure potasium has ta do with magnesium a bunch. Not school'd enough on the sciency jargon to know exact. Where the heck is the great and inspiring Seamaiden? She has a awesome charts thread that somehow splains it all. Somehow. Some full plant pics would seriously help also.
 
smokin jay

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Was just checking out DNF nutrients and it says the base nutes have everything you need to grow a healthy plant. I use RO water and I have never had to supplement with cal-mag when using a complete base fertilizer but all plants are different and may require supplementation. Those fortifiers you are using looks like you shouldn't need to add anything else from what I see on their website. Every time I go into the hydroshop they try to sell me a bottle of cal-mag when they ask if I use RO water LOL.
 
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Jus saw the pics. If thats her. Looks ta me you bout done anyways. Dont giver shit! Run tap water if she dries up an jus enough ta keep her from wiltin. She aint gonna take in much more if at'all. Maybe a splash o honey water to tha roots a week or two before pluckin. But folair spray ta keep her hydrated an up the room temp. You definitely didnt lose this race by the look of'em tops. Enjoy!
 
The Hippy

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So Jay your thinking that I'm over using Cal mag.....lets if anyone else has that thought....peace bro
 
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I dunno so many answer...so many things to consider....just confused now
 
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Can plants in veg be foliar sprayed with epson salts as well. What would be the ratio to mix a foliar spray at like in 1 litre of RO water add ?? epson salts ??
 
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Someone also told me to go half Tap water ( mine is pretty hard at 400 PPM ) and half RO water.
I believe suggested earlier here as well.
Thoughts
 
smokin jay

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Did your plants ever have def symptoms of cal-mag or did you just add it cuz the guy at the hydroshop told you that you needed it? I fell for that once and added cal-mag and started to get tip burn right away. I was using Advanced nutes at the time and their website specifically says not to use cal-mag supplementation. With your girls in veg I would flush to get a fresh start and let the plants tell you what they need. I think its salt build up coupled with def due to lockout. If they didn't need cal-mag then it is building up in the medium as would anything else they don't use up. I would just start with checking those ppms in your run off and go from there. Lots of good info here so don't be confused just find a starting point. If I was to spray anything on the plants I would go with that RO tap water mix till you check the ppms.
 
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smokin jay said:
Did your plants ever have def symptoms of cal-mag or did you just add it cuz the guy at the hydroshop told you that you needed it? I fell for that once and added cal-mag and started to get tip burn right away. I was using Advanced nutes at the time and their website specifically says not to use cal-mag supplementation. With your girls in veg I would flush to get a fresh start and let the plants tell you what they need. I think its salt build up coupled with def due to lockout. If they didn't need cal-mag then it is building up in the medium as would anything else they don't use up. I would just start with checking those ppms in your run off and go from there. Lots of good info here so don't be confused just find a starting point. If I was to spray anything on the plants I would go with that RO tap water mix till you check the ppms.
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Hey Jay ...thanks bro
Well i started using RO water after I was told locally the hard water here is a tough one for plants. I duno if that was true or not. I used to use it but was told i had too much from the city tap water.
And yes the store guy said if you using RO you will need cal mag. I did not consider if the DNF or any other nutes would add the need cal and mag.
So are you saying that if i put RO in with zero PPM to check the PPM comning out. Okay and if it reads what? ...do what ?
 
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Muckman420 said:
@Seamaiden @Capulator rescue him please
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Help Seamaden...I know she is so very helpful....Maybe she will see this and set me straight
Use more Cal mag .....use less Cal mag...use no cal mag....I'm completely confused now.
 
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Muckman420 said:
What strains are you runnin? My girls like ph around 5.8-6.2 ish and I'm using tap, but what @ShroomKing said sounds legit. Have any of your whole nutrient/water mixes been cloudy after mixing? Some nute combos don't mix well and lock each other out, read that somewhere, I'll see if I can find the page again.
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Well about 10 different strains. I do find that the next day after mixing the nutes I get a white foam floating on the water and the air stones clog and need to be wiped off.
 
smokin jay

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Be back in a few gotta go work. Hopefully someone will chime in read the link I posted. Peace bro
 
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