Can Someone Tell Us What's Wrong Here

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mulehunter

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If you don't Feed everyday you will start getting dry pockets and showing deficiencies
 
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Rootbound said:
I water in coco every 3rd day or every other day and have no deficiencies. The plant needs to have a established roots in the container before you even think about watering every day.
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True for seedlings and freshly transplanted plants.. Pot size affects water/feeding frequency..

Peace
 
Danky Mcnugs

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Stop everything you are doing and do a slurry test with that coco. Do not test your runoff and believe exactly what it says, especially with the plant in such poor shape. I can almost guarantee that the coco has way too much salt content and needs to be thoroughly rinsed before plsnting. Was this coco from a brick? And what brand? To do the slurry test take 2oz of coco and put it in a cup, then put 2oz of water in with the coco and stir it up real good and let it sit for 15 minutes. Stir it again and check ppm and ph. Come back with your results.
 
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Danky Mcnugs said:
Stop everything you are doing and do a slurry test with that coco. Do not test your runoff and believe exactly what it says, especially with the plant in such poor shape. I can almost guarantee that the coco has way too much salt content and needs to be thoroughly rinsed before plsnting. Was this coco from a brick? And what brand? To do the slurry test take 2oz of coco and put it in a cup, then put 2oz of water in with the coco and stir it up real good and let it sit for 15 minutes. Stir it again and check ppm and ph. Come back with your results.
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Excellent idea! But when you do your slurry test you should use r/o filtered water if you can.
 
wambam123

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It just seems to be the first set of leaves the plant grew. Been doing a bit of research into coco and seems that you have to add calcium if the plants show the slightest of yellowing is that correct?
 
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Seamaiden

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wambam123 said:
It just seems to be the first set of leaves the plant grew. Been doing a bit of research into coco and seems that you have to add calcium if the plants show the slightest of yellowing is that correct?
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No, they need calcium throughout the grow. That is not a Ca- and if you wait until you see one, you've waited too late.

I see that you're getting a lot of conflicting advice here. I agree that the plant is hungry, coir does not provide much in the way of nutrients to a plant, so you have to step in. You should not allow the coir to dry out completely, it can and will cause problems. I agree with the slurry test, absolutely. Use water of 0EC and measure the pH before you do the test, you want to know the water parameters both before and after you test. 7-10 minutes is sufficient to get a good reading.
 
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This is what my seedlings look like in fresh canna coco right out the bag. No flush ,no calmag , ro water, no ph adjusters, canna nutrients at 1.4 ec from the start basically following cannas feed schedule.
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Here is what cuts look like after veggin for awhile fed the same way with the occasional 1.6 ec feeding. I let them dry a little in between watering. I try to not let them get any drier than how it comes out of the bag of coco.
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Your seedlings need to dry out a little between watering and they need a little more food. The larger plant that is sitting on the chair is in a #5 nursery pot and will get watered every 2 to 3 days at this point, later when it's drinking more it will be watered daily if not twice a day in later stages of flowering.
 
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Seamaiden said:
No, they need calcium throughout the grow. That is not a Ca- and if you wait until you see one, you've waited too late.

I see that you're getting a lot of conflicting advice here. I agree that the plant is hungry, coir does not provide much in the way of nutrients to a plant, so you have to step in. You should not allow the coir to dry out completely, it can and will cause problems. I agree with the slurry test, absolutely. Use water of 0EC and measure the pH before you do the test, you want to know the water parameters both before and after you test. 7-10 minutes is sufficient to get a good reading.
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Best advice here IMO.
I quit starting beans ( or even clones for that matter ) in coco a long time ago. Jiffy pellets just work better for me. After you have a good root system going, drop them in coco and let her buck. If you're worried about nute burn on young plants/seedlings, go with alaskan fish oil. It is damn hard to overnute them with that, and will green them up pretty quick til they get well established.
 
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Thanks guys it's been about 2 weeks I have now come of the CFL and onto a 600w bulb, I am still using canna a and b and Rizo at 1 ml of each to a litre of water. But still got the yellowing of the bottom leaves I had it under control but it is coming back slightly
 
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ShroomKing

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That pot is awful small. Poor girl is just about rootbound. And those style pots have poor drainage and a low air to root ratio.
Once rootbound you will start to see issues as well.

Best of luck.
Peace
 
kingkam1988

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wambam123 said:
This is a update it looks like it is getting worse the coco is dry I have fed every 2 days with a splash of ph water 5.8. Do you guys think I should start again.
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you need to use fox farm soil all you have to do is add water to it would help you out alot in veg grow
 
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