3 Weeks Into Flower And Still No Buds?

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We Solidarity said:
next time invest in a real grow light like a t-5 for a small space. You might get a few whispy buds but that's a straight up sativa, even if it had enough light it might not be finished for another 70 days. CFL is a horrible light to grow with, I wish you the best of luck.
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I will be upgrading the lights soon this was just first attempt on low budget. I'm looking at an led grow light. All in a small box and dont need to change lights to flip but apparently they use more power and i dont think they need to be as close.
I've been looking for small t-5 lights but they seem to drop the wattage down everyone I've seen at 2ft is only 9w. I cant find a small one with 100w min.
 
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Junk said:
It's been 21 days of 12/12? Has it begun the stretch? If not, you are not going to be able to flower that. It's going to get extremely tall.


He is correct. Also, you don't have enough light, or enough strong light. I hate to say it, but I don't know how well that plant is going to turn out for you. If it isn't done the stretch phase, you are going to run out of room.

The only thing you can do (if possible) is train it sideways for a while.

Personally, what I would do if I were you, is take a few cuts from that plant, right now...let them root, transplant to soil, & put it back under 12/12. Let it root, transplant to the final pot, & go right to 12/12. With the setup you are using, it's the only way you are going to be able to handle the height of what looks to be a heavy Sativa.

You are going to have problems regardless with that light setup. It doesn't appear to be real grow lighting, & probably not strong enough.
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Yeah mate its been 21 days, i did have here tied down for the first two weeks of flower and a few weeks before that. Would that have slowed stretching?
Originally she started in a small chest of drawers that i made into a grow box but had to tie her down as i was running out of room so moved her to my closet.
I thought sativas were ment to be short and bushy not tall?
I also super cropped all her top tops but they just started heading up again at the crop a few weeks later.
I can't make her to wide as the closet is only so deep.
How do you think she will go outside then if she gets to big. Im just really over all the bullshit with outdoor growing indoor is so much easier and with something like that the bugs in my backyard will have a field day on her.
 
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Mayhem Farms said:
The K rating and lumens and most of what you see advertised on the box means nothing for growing.
This hobby requires a understanding of spectrum and this is just part of what makes a grow light work.
Remember have fun and know that even the best botanist on here had a lot of failures.
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So what is it that you need to look for when buying bulbs. Our shops here dont sell bulbs bigger that 125w. I can get hps bulbs but they are to much heat and power consumption
 
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K is the heat range the spectrum is the

electro magnetic field in nanometers.

You can not use the same equations from one light source to

another. Led has one equation incandescent

has another and so on. Let the plants touch

the board use the light matching chart I

posted. Most of all continue doing what is

necessary for your situation that's how we all

do it. When you move the light further the

plant is just going to grow. You will be heat

pruning your plant to slow the growth. Also

Junk had a really good solution for you to

continue if anything goes wrong . Don't get

worried have fun, be safe and you're doing okay.
 
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Junk said:
It's been 21 days of 12/12? Has it begun the stretch? If not, you are not going to be able to flower that. It's going to get extremely tall.


He is correct. Also, you don't have enough light, or enough strong light. I hate to say it, but I don't know how well that plant is going to turn out for you. If it isn't done the stretch phase, you are going to run out of room.

The only thing you can do (if possible) is train it sideways for a while.

Personally, what I would do if I were you, is take a few cuts from that plant, right now...let them root, transplant to soil, & put it back under 12/12. Let it root, transplant to the final pot, & go right to 12/12. With the setup you are using, it's the only way you are going to be able to handle the height of what looks to be a heavy Sativa.

You are going to have problems regardless with that light setup. It doesn't appear to be real grow lighting, & probably not strong enough.
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Ive tried to clone but i just dont know where im going wrong. They just dont root and eventually after a few days droop and die.
I don't have a clone dome but i did put a glass jar over on and still nothing i use a rooting gel aswell
 
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Mayhem Farms said:
K is the heat range the spectrum is the

electro magnetic field in nanometers.

You can not use the same equations from one light source to

another. Led has one equation incandescent

has another and so on. Let the plants touch

the board use the light matching chart I

posted. Most of all continue doing what is

necessary for your situation that's how we all

do it. When you move the light further the

plant is just going to grow. You will be heat

pruning your plant to slow the growth. Also

Junk had a really good solution for you to

continue if anything goes wrong . Don't get

worried have fun, be safe and you're doing okay.
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How do i know from the box what spectrum the light is?
You're almost talking in a different language for me mate lol.
The shorter ones away from the light arnt stretching though its just gone dormant almost with a few pistols popping out everyday
 
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Leebone said:
How do i know from the box what spectrum the light is?
You're almost talking in a different language for me mate lol.
The shorter ones away from the light arnt stretching though its just gone dormant almost with a few pistols popping out everyday
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If you look back in the thread you will see what colors to use for red or blue (in the pictures) but it is only for fluorescence so it should be the same for cfl.
 
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Mayhem Farms said:
If you look back in the thread you will see what colors to use for red or blue (in the pictures) but it is only for fluorescence so it should be the same for cfl.
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I've just been going off charts like this and everyone i see is the same. There is no blue spectrum in a kelvin rating under 5000k so if so then the kelvin tells you what the sectrum colour is and thats what it says on our bulbs here. I have cool white bulbs and they are 4000k and only let off green spectrum i think which is usless for photosynthesis which only needs blue and red
 
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Kelvin doesn't mean anything it is there for sales only it means nothing forget about it don't reference it, it has nothing to do with this at allllllll..... there look warm white is under red / cool white is under blue. Use this chart as a reference for spectrum/color for fluorescent bulbs. Red for flower blue for veg. DON'T USE KELVIN OR ANY OTHER THING ON THAT BOX EXCEPT FOR THE WORDS ON THE CHART. SOFT WHITE-COOL WHITE- AGRO LIGHT-DAY LIGHT the words are all you can use as a reference thats it not even the the math on it is good 23 watts is 23 watts not 125 watts. What they are saying is that it is comparable to a 125 watt incandescent light with a tungsten steel filament and that is definitely not true.
 
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Leebone said:
Yeah mate thats it.
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U do know that u are still using 750W each hour doesnt matter if its cfl or any other kind of light. But what you do is waste most of it. The deep penetration from cfl is negligible, its nearly gone at 4 inches. If you would have used 2x 400w hps or something similar u would yielded TRIPLE.

How much is your budget?
 
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BigBun said:
U do know that u are still using 750W each hour doesnt matter if its cfl or any other kind of light. But what you do is waste most of it. The deep penetration from cfl is negligible, its nearly gone at 4 inches. If you would have used 2x 400w hps or something similar u would yielded TRIPLE.

How much is your budget?
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Its summer here atm and its just to hot to be running hps bulbs. Id need to have a cooling system and i cant afford that.
My budget isn't very much because i dont want to stop smoking lol.
I've got my eye on a led grow light though that i will be getting soon
 
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I still have no buds and it almost week 6 of flower, i have no clue what to do. Thinking shes just going to go outside..
 
reeferman420

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its because your bulbs are not 125w they are 23w which times 6 is only 138w def not enough imo
 
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becsuse when the plant is little the bulbs were all close now as it grows the lights are moving up and less of tge planf is getting sufficient light
 
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put her outside buds will blow up just be carefil moving from infoor to outdoor tge sun may be too powerful to just move it out use a translucent plastic above it it the furst day or teo so.it gets used to tge sun. i think thats yiur best bet but im by no means an expert
 
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reeferman420 said:
put her outside buds will blow up just be carefil moving from infoor to outdoor tge sun may be too powerful to just move it out use a translucent plastic above it it the furst day or teo so.it gets used to tge sun. i think thats yiur best bet but im by no means an expert
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Yeah mate shes been outside for two weeks now. Shes filling up around the tops more pistols coming out but tops still aren't heading up probably. Im also about to put her in a bigger pot shes getting to big and growth has slowed right down
 
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