3 Weeks Into Flower And Still No Buds?

[Leebone]

This plant has veged out really well in about 8 weeks but it's now been 3 weeks since I've changed the bulbs to 2700k and 12/12 and there are only a few pistols scattered in the tops but no buds at all. I've been watching videos and other people have got buds at two weeks and heads forming.
Its just slowed right down with just a little inner growth. Leaves are also dying for the bottom up (mainly fan leaves) very slowly.
It just doesn't seem to be kicking into flower properly.
When i flipped it i did a flush and started using a flowering nute but dosnt seem to be working at all.
Anyone got any thoughts?

 

[GrowGod]

Looks like you have a long flowering sativa, give it time they will bud , make sure not to over feed sativas burn easy

 

[BigBun]

GrowGod is right, that is definately a sativa dominant strain and they take 10-14 weeks.

Since she is sativa-ish she will keep stretching for at least 2 more weeks.

 

[BigBun]

Oh and can u please make a picture so i can see the lower half of the plant? i cann help you decide what to cut.

What kind of light do you use?

 

[Leebone]

Looks like you have a long flowering sativa, give it time they will bud , make sure not to over feed sativas burn easy

Not what i wanted to hear lol but I'm hoping it will all pay off and yeah they sure do burn easy i can't seem to get it right.
Do you think i should feed every water and just give her half dose or feed every second water?

 

[Mayhem Farms]

What type of light are you using and how far from the canopy is it?

If your nutrients are lower than 1400 ppm + what is in your water.

Or

If the light is too far from the canopy.

Both these scenarios would result in a spindly looking plant that would be consistent with what is in these photos.

Only you can put these puzzle pieces together, only you will know.

1. How far is your light & what type of light?
2. How strong is your nutrients? ie ppm or ec

 

[Leebone]

Oh and can u please make a picture so i can see the lower half of the plant? i cann help you decide what to cut.

What kind of light do you use?

I'm hoping it doesn't get to much taller as i cant lift the lights much higher as the are.
I'm using 2700k 125w cfl's they are the best i can find here without having to go to the huge ones.
I dont really want to take any more tops off as i dont have much money because i send it all on bud haha so im really going for quantity over quality. This is my first indoor grow and first successful grow.

 

[Mayhem Farms]

Ruderalis is the actual name for Auto.

 

[BigBun]

So you are running 6x 125W cfl?

 

[Mayhem Farms]

Your problem is the lights are to far from the plant and not strong enough. Let the plant touch the light. Yes some of the plant can be damaged but this is the only way. Lights free energy diminishes the further away you get. Make sure you keep a eye on things for safety. There is also math to back this up but the equations are quite complicated and there is no short answers. Also CFL is a very weak sorce for light. I will include a chart for sourcing straight style light.

 

[BigBun]

Ruderalis is the actual name for Auto.

And what has that to do with this Thread? He never said anything about it being an Automatic and it certainly doesnt look like one.

 

[Mayhem Farms]

The K rating and lumens and most of what you see advertised on the box means nothing for growing.
This hobby requires a understanding of spectrum and this is just part of what makes a grow light work.
Remember have fun and know that even the best botanist on here had a lot of failures.

 

[Mayhem Farms]

And what has that to do with this Thread? He never said anything about it being an Automatic and it certainly doesnt look like one.

Its on the bottom of one of the charts, I gave a short answer for what it means because it doesn't say.

 

[BigBun]

Well Ruderalis have been crossed into other strains to create Automatics but Ruderalis arent Automatics.

 

[Mayhem Farms]

I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel. These are the definitions of the scientific studies that have been published from Harvard University. They can be backed up scientifically, Or you can just trust the guy selling you the seeds.

 

[We Solidarity]

next time invest in a real grow light like a t-5 for a small space. You might get a few whispy buds but that's a straight up sativa, even if it had enough light it might not be finished for another 70 days. CFL is a horrible light to grow with, I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Junk]

This plant has veged out really well in about 8 weeks but it's now been 3 weeks since I've changed the bulbs to 2700k and 12/12 and there are only a few pistols scattered in the tops but no buds at all. I've been watching videos and other people have got buds at two weeks and heads forming.
Its just slowed right down with just a little inner growth. Leaves are also dying for the bottom up (mainly fan leaves) very slowly.
It just doesn't seem to be kicking into flower properly.
When i flipped it i did a flush and started using a flowering nute but dosnt seem to be working at all.
Anyone got any thoughts?

It's been 21 days of 12/12? Has it begun the stretch? If not, you are not going to be able to flower that. It's going to get extremely tall.

The K rating and lumens and most of what you see advertised on the box means nothing for growing.

He is correct. Also, you don't have enough light, or enough strong light. I hate to say it, but I don't know how well that plant is going to turn out for you. If it isn't done the stretch phase, you are going to run out of room.

The only thing you can do (if possible) is train it sideways for a while.

Personally, what I would do if I were you, is take a few cuts from that plant, right now...let them root, transplant to soil, & put it back under 12/12. Let it root, transplant to the final pot, & go right to 12/12. With the setup you are using, it's the only way you are going to be able to handle the height of what looks to be a heavy Sativa.

You are going to have problems regardless with that light setup. It doesn't appear to be real grow lighting, & probably not strong enough.

 

[Mayhem Farms]

It's been 21 days of 12/12? Has it begun the stretch? If not, you are not going to be able to flower that. It's going to get extremely tall.


He is correct. Also, you don't have enough light, or enough strong light. I hate to say it, but I don't know how well that plant is going to turn out for you. If it isn't done the stretch phase, you are going to run out of room.

The only thing you can do (if possible) is train it sideways for a while.

Personally, what I would do if I were you, is take a few cuts from that plant, right now...let them root, transplant to soil, & put it back under 12/12. Let it root, transplant to the final pot, & go right to 12/12. With the setup you are using, it's the only way you are going to be able to handle the height of what looks to be a heavy Sativa.

You are going to have problems regardless with that light setup. It doesn't appear to be real grow lighting, & probably not strong enough.

I've cloned using this method and it work for
me. I used a 2' t5 with 4 agro grow bulbs.

Clone to bud under a 12/12 light cycle

because I had very limited space. The clones

where like 3 inches at start. I kept the light

about a 1/2 away from the plants let them

touch for a short time before moving it. Good call Junk

 

[Leebone]

So you are running 6x 125W cfl?

Yeah mate thats it.

 

[Leebone]

The K rating and lumens and most of what you see advertised on the box means nothing for growing.
This hobby requires a understanding of spectrum and this is just part of what makes a grow light work.
Remember have fun and know that even the best botanist on here had a lot of failures.

The lights are as close as i can get them. The tops are different sizes so if the light is close to the lower ones the top ones will be squashed by the board the lights are on. I have some flexible extensions coming that will help get the bulbs closer. Atm im jist working with what ive got on a tight budget.
I can't get lights more powerful than that here in Australia without finding a specialist to import them in. The only ones i can find are the huge ones that are too big for the set up i have.
From everything I've been reading kelvin rating is the same as spectrums because correct of I'm wrong there is no blue spectrum in anything under 5000k and no red in anything over 3000k. On the light bulb boxes here some have kelvin and some have lumens. There is nothing else anywhere on the box that would indicate that it is for indoor growing.
We dont have a huge range of stuff like America does because there is just not enough demand for it.
I've given up on looking for better bulbs and everyone looking at my sideways for asking. The 125w have worked great for vege so the should be fine for flower. Just add more smaller bulbs and from what I've seen off you tube and the results people have got i think 6 lights for one plant is enough