veg+bloom, 1 part powder in socal tap

600 ppm is the high side for me. I bounce between 400 and 600 ppm or .08 to 1.2 ec.

These guys are great I check the mail and I got a bottle of this. No instructions though or how are what. Any help. Please

clutch419 said:

These guys are great I check the mail and I got a bottle of this. No instructions though or how are what. Any help. Please

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That's the foliar. That stuff is GOLD!!!!


This is what Chris told me to do with it.
Just mix 100ml per gallon into 50-150ppm water and spray. You can spray with lights on full blast and won't burn. If you check the ppms they will be crazy high (2+ EC) but it all gets absorbed.

I think I am going to start another V+B thread, as I think we have highjacked @ill eagle's thread enough.

What is the results of this foliar? Just curious.

Rootbound said:

What is the results of this foliar? Just curious.

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I started a new thread....and posted a before and after on the PUSH foliar.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/hydroponic-research-user-thread.75909/

@ill eagle im planning on using V+B in 2 gallon coco bags under 600w gavitas with ogs cookies and gg4 with 2 week veg then flip. With V+B HD and coco which would be best to use- my tap at 250ppm or R/O water? What PPMs should I be running with V+B with R/O and what ppm with my 250 ppm tap from transplanted clone to harvest. Should I flush with plain water for the last 2 weeks of flower?Im using compressed canna coco bricks should I expand them with water or V+B HD Mix? I have alot of promix on hand which do you suggest out of coco and promix?

I use the dirty in my dirt rounds I run the ppm around 700-900. I also add golden tree at 1 mill per gallon and 1teaspoon of carbo load per gallon
My plants love it. I give them 1 heavy feeding 8-900 ppm with the bloom booster and then a lite feeding around 6-700 without the bloom booster
Then I flush with photozyme and sfl100.
My other plants are in coco and I run the hd with them and I add more calcium to it and they are super happy with it.
My first harvest of veg&bloom is in about 4 weeks and these girls got hit with broad leaf mites and I have 5 of them that have a slight problem with herme on them but I just pick the spots with tweezers to remove them before it opens up. All I can say is wow they are super happy with it. And I also have 3 girls that are a short bus purple strain very hard to grow but they love the veg&bloom cause I can keep there ppm low and they love it.

This is the single greatest thread I've ever read. I want to thank every single one of you *very much* for contributing.
Even the guy who was suspicious of this amazing line (hard to even call it that).
GLAD you were skeptical but even more glad Ill Eagle, etc are legit.

I love the results I got from NftG. But the cost. The hassle. The destroying of my mix pump. The dead animals that go into it. The rotting if you don't use it all up immediately.

This seems perfect in contrast. Cannot wait to get it.

Looks like you ran that one too rich and pH is outta whack

I ran this stuff a lot back in 2012-2013 on my DTW coco buckets. This stuff is amazing. Can't believe more people didnt jump on it when he was on the farm introducing it back then. It would stay so ph stable in my rez's. Loved it. All they had was the RO version. All this new stuff is pretty cool. Just strait V+B and Molasses in flower.

ill eagle said:

Looks like you ran that one too rich and pH is outta whack

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I keep it strictly by their recommendation of 1tsp/gal, but I have to do better keeping pH in check. It creeped up nearly to 6.9 before I caught it and fixed it.
My pH creeps up because I use an aerated (fluming) feed barrel with +Life.
Thanks for the feedback, @ill eagle , you're the guy who inspired me to do this line.

I blame myself for the pH. The v+b is fantastic

Whats the difference between Push and Shine foliar?

Push is a foliar......Shine is the new bloom booster that will replace +Size

I ran this stuff a couple years ago before they had anything but the V+B and +life, I just ordered again and this time I went with the HD and +Size. On the +Size container, and on the web site, it says +Size can also be used as foilar but no info on when or how. Has anyone tried it as foilar?

8 week cycle
week 1-6 Veg&abloom HD
Week 7. 1/4 strength VBHD, Citric acid & molasses
Week 8. VBHD 1/4 strength
By far the best quality I've ever produced.
Gotta love VBHD bud!!

Tejashidrow said:

8 week cycle
week 1-6 Veg&abloom HD
Week 7. 1/4 strength VBHD, Citric acid & molasses
Week 8. VBHD 1/4 strength
By far the best quality I've ever produced.
Gotta love VBHD bud!!

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Hey Tex, do you use +Size?

The trick to the booster is water delivery. You drop it in at .1ec or 1g/gal 2xsh a week from late stretch to mid 6sh on top of like 3.5g 0r 1ec 500ppm Vbloom. All flowers all day✌

ill eagle said:

The trick to the booster is water delivery. You drop it in at .1ec or 1g/gal 2xsh a week from late stretch to mid 6sh on top of like 3.5g 0r 1ec 500ppm Vbloom. All flowers all day✌

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That's right around the same numbers I've been using. I'm just a little heavier on the Size at 1.4g/gal. I usually cut that in half and hit them with some home made MOAB during the last two weeks of swell, since I have over 40lbs of the stuff still.

I wonder if I backed off on the Size if I'd stop seeing that calyx push that I tend to get.

just getting my feet wet with VB Dirty using RO in peat. Anybody know the rub on why directions suggest starting with .2-.3 EC water? Does the stuff not mix well in O EC or does it not contain enough Cal? Trying to justify pre-charging the RO with CalMag or hanging up the RO for a dechlorinator.
@Rootbound or whoever RO and No Cal?