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Ecompost said:
this is similar to Black Strap Molasses, which has a similar micro make up and is much much cheaper of course. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5573/2 Topmax is diluted BSM and some other bits including for example humates, which again are fairly common place although totally awesome
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Ecompost said:
this is similar to Black Strap Molasses, which has a similar micro make up and is much much cheaper of course. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5573/2 Topmax is diluted BSM and some other bits including for example humates, which again are fairly common place although totally awesome
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Cheaper is relative being in Austria ;)
 
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Haven't run in to such problem so far. Or at least I didn't notice it.
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so long as you keep N going in, or there is plenty to feed the plant and biology, then you wont or shouldnt notice, over time if you reuse media, you will need less N as the N fixers get going, eg your Actino and bacullus etc etc up to a point I found recently, when my peat began to decay which tied up loads of N since it has a high CN number, so requires lots of energy, once that process started, it continued to zap N from my inputs and I had to add more again to compensate for that being tied up by the fungus etc chewing down on it.
When you get a yellowing it can just as readily be an overdose of soil sugars so carbons which can then slow the decaying of organic matter to ions. Sometimes due to a tie up rather than lock out in soil, eg the microbes will steal the N if there isnt enough for them and the plant. Ideal carbon to nitrogen levels for short day crops are about 24:1 this will ensure steady access to mineralised organics over 3-4 months but organic growers need to feed the N to plants and microbes, this is where we get the equation BioN = BioC/8 to make sure we have enough to feed our plant and mineralise any biomass so make best use of nutrients overall. if we can avoid putting in too much, we can avoid some of the problems with leaching and the pollutions this causes. :-)
 
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Ecompost said:
so long as you keep N going in, or there is plenty to feed the plant and biology, then you wont or shouldnt notice, over time if you reuse media, you will need less N as the N fixers get going, eg your Actino and bacullus etc etc up to a point I found recently, when my peat began to decay which tied up loads of N since it has a high CN number, so requires lots of energy, once that process started, it continued to zap N from my inputs and I had to add more again to compensate for that being tied up by the fungus etc chewing down on it.
When you get a yellowing it can just as readily be an overdose of soil sugars so carbons which can then slow the decaying of organic matter to ions. Sometimes due to a tie up rather than lock out in soil, eg the microbes will steal the N if there isnt enough for them and the plant. Ideal carbon to nitrogen levels for short day crops are about 24:1 this will ensure steady access to mineralised organics over 3-4 months but organic growers need to feed the N to plants and microbes, this is where we get the equation BioN = BioC/8 to make sure we have enough to feed our plant and mineralise any biomass so make best use of nutrients overall. if we can avoid putting in too much, we can avoid some of the problems with leaching and the pollutions this causes. :)
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Like i mentioned before, I add about 10% of fresh soil or home made compost to the reused soil, so N levels should be in check. And I also add some pellets of cow manure if I remember to.
 
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Like i mentioned before, I add about 10% of fresh soil or home made compost to the reused soil, so N levels should be in check. And I also add some pellets of cow manure if I remember to.
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yes this was why we had the yellowing plant before buddy, we were feeding in really close to the line, eg with near zero N buffer, onc the peat came in to play, we had to suddenly up the feed by 85ppms which was running as a def in my plant. I just thought it was interesting to see it happen.
 
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