Some Lower Leaves Getting Brown/ Yellow Spots And Eventually Turning Brown And Dying

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

Hi all! First post!! I'm about 2 months in veg running a mix of FFOF and Roots 707 mixed 50/50 and I used Grean Bicycles"Ocean bounty Flower mix" as my amendment. Didnt cook the soil. All water going in is RO coming out around 7.3, adjusted with apple cider vinegar to 5.8-6.4 every time. Ive been adding .5-1tbsp Camg+ to every gallon of water for the last 3 weeks. I top dressed EWC at about 2 handfulls per 3gal smartpot and they all seem to still have some N toxicity from it as they have "the claw" after every watering and some tip burn. Now today I want to transplant everything to 10gal smartpots with the aformentioned soil mix and will be watering with the tea that ill post pictures of. Any pointers or insight anyone could give me?

BTW this is my first grow. Everything is gonna be flipped under 5kw hps after lollipopping and taking clones off the tops, these girls are BIG I think I would be having some height issues if I dont top them.

907debow1234 · Feb 6, 2017

I'd say it's a phosphorus deficiency. .. The tea should clear it up. Stinks like hell but fish emulsion works great. Just my 2 cents.

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

907debow1234 said:
I'd say it's a phosphorus deficiency. .. The tea should clear it up. Stinks like hell but fish emulsion works great. Just my 2 cents.

yea but my problem is that everything has a bit of N toxicity so I dont wanna make that worse. If I scrape off the top layer of soil that I ammended with EWC when I transplant today do you think that would help at all? I dont wanna burn them with N.
I was looking at getting mammoth P microbes because they release phos and help break down things in the soil and unlock their potential especially phos which might not be getting to the roots as the soil isnt cooked

GT21 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
Hi all! First post!! I'm about 2 months in veg running a mix of FFOF and Roots 707 mixed 50/50 and I used Grean Bicycles"Ocean bounty Flower mix" as my amendment. Didnt cook the soil. All water going in is RO coming out around 7.3, adjusted with apple cider vinegar to 5.8-6.4 every time. Ive been adding .5-1tbsp Camg+ to every gallon of water for the last 3 weeks. I top dressed EWC at about 2 handfulls per 3gal smartpot and they all seem to still have some N toxicity from it as they have "the claw" after every watering and some tip burn. Now today I want to transplant everything to 10gal smartpots with the aformentioned soil mix and will be watering with the tea that ill post pictures of. Any pointers or insight anyone could give me?

BTW this is my first grow. Everything is gonna be flipped under 5kw hps after lollipopping and taking clones off the tops, these girls are BIG I think I would be having some height issues if I dont top them.

Take a picture of the main stem of the plant

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

GT21 said:
Take a picture of the main stem of the plant

Thanks a ton for the help by the way everyone!! I have bad enough anxiety as it is so this is helping already!
They had a way more purple colored stem but I've been hitting them harder with Camg+ and it seems they're all getting greener

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

Here's a full garden shot for you guys... Strains are GG#4, Cookiewreck, qrazy train, blood diamond OG. Some are like 6ft tall lol

907debow1234 · Feb 6, 2017

Your not growing a garden.. that's a forest. Nice looking plants, the top layer dump of dirt can't hurt. That's for sure.

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

907debow1234 said:
Your not growing a garden.. that's a forest. Nice looking plants, the top layer dump of dirt can't hurt. That's for sure.

Thanks brothaman! I hope I can pull at least 1lb per kw with them being this big lol. I typed up a whole grow journal first post on ICmag that took me like an hour and my computer crashed so I said screw it I'm not rewriting that... And sounds good on the dirt-dump, I was thinking the same thing.

GT21 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
Thanks a ton for the help by the way everyone!! I have bad enough anxiety as it is so this is helping already!
They had a way more purple colored stem but I've been hitting them harder with Camg+ and it seems they're all getting greener

You have a phosphorus deficiency... you need a pk boost or you need to adjust ph

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

GT21 said:
You have a phosphorus deficiency... you need a pk boost or you need to adjust ph

ok, the tea I posted is high Phos so I'll have to brew some up, I'll just hit them after transplant today so I can scrape off the EWC I added. But Cant N toxicity cause a P lockout also??

GT21 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
ok, the tea I posted is high Phos so I'll have to brew some up, I'll just hit them after transplant today so I can scrape off the EWC I added.

It could just be your ph is off and its lockin p

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

GT21 said:
It could just be your ph is off and its lockin p

my soil PH meter said its at 6.5? I have a new liquid ph pen coming in, Isnt there another way to test soil ph by adding it to distilled water or something??

GT21 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
my soil PH meter said its at 6.5? I have a new liquid ph pen coming in, Isnt there another way to test soil ph by adding it to distilled water or something??

Might want to bump your waters up to 6.8

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

GT21 said:
Might want to bump your waters up to 6.8

Ive always heard to water 5.8-6.2?

GT21 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
Ive always heard to water 5.8-6.2?

In soil?

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

GT21 said:
In soil?

thanks for that.. mostly listened to the guy at the grow store lol he said thats what he does and he does organic soil and his weed looked amazing... I was doing 6.2-6.6 before he said that haha... should I ph my teas to that as well? the whole organic soil PH thing is so mixed with peoples opinions its crazy. lots say to just not ph at all..

1320 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
Hi all! First post!! I'm about 2 months in veg running a mix of FFOF and Roots 707 mixed 50/50 and I used Grean Bicycles"Ocean bounty Flower mix" as my amendment. Didnt cook the soil. All water going in is RO coming out around 7.3, adjusted with apple cider vinegar to 5.8-6.4 every time. Ive been adding .5-1tbsp Camg+ to every gallon of water for the last 3 weeks. I top dressed EWC at about 2 handfulls per 3gal smartpot and they all seem to still have some N toxicity from it as they have "the claw" after every watering and some tip burn. Now today I want to transplant everything to 10gal smartpots with the aformentioned soil mix and will be watering with the tea that ill post pictures of. Any pointers or insight anyone could give me?

BTW this is my first grow. Everything is gonna be flipped under 5kw hps after lollipopping and taking clones off the tops, these girls are BIG I think I would be having some height issues if I dont top them.

Same thing happened to me. Look at my pic. But in my case I had my clones in clear cups and the roots were exposed to light. It was fixed as soon as transplanted. Also I completely forgot my humidifier and the room was 90% humid, next morning this happened to my plants so there was a couple reasons. I'm assuming there was a huge change in the room either with the temp or humidity?

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

1320 said:
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Same thing happened to me. Look at my pic. But in my case I had my clones in clear cups and the roots were exposed to light. It was fixed as soon as transplanted. Also I completely forgot my humidifier and the room was 90% humid, next morning this happened to my plants so there was a couple reasons. I'm assuming there was a huge change in the room either with the temp or humidity?

lol my girlfriend always calls the dehumidifier a humidifier and it bothers me so much for some reason... probably because theyre polar opposite machines and the thought of ADDING humidity to my already humid as fuck veg room makes my stomach turn....

GT21 · Feb 6, 2017

Jackstraw215 said:
thanks for that.. mostly listened to the guy at the grow store lol he said thats what he does and he does organic soil and his weed looked amazing... I was doing 6.2-6.6 before he said that haha... should I ph my teas to that as well? the whole organic soil PH thing is so mixed with peoples opinions its crazy. lots say to just not ph at all..

Yes everything you put in should be around 6.8.. then youll unlock phosphorus

Jackstraw215 · Feb 6, 2017

GT21 said:
Yes everything you put in should be around 6.8.. then youll unlock phosphorus

so essentially ph could be the only culprit? i suppose the tea i will use has a good p value anyways so i will be sure to use that

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