Cloning In Flower Stage

PassTheJ said:

Quick question. If I made clones from plants 2-3 weeks into flowering, how long must they sit under 24 lights to revert back into veg mode?

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About the the same time

They're exactly 2 weeks 1 day now. All flower remains are gone and they're all making new growth very rapidly now.

Think they might be ready.

Looks good?

Goin well.id veg em another couple o weeks though before i flipped em just to giv em a chance to put on some decent growth.remember when growing revegges like this they often grow liadsa wee thin shoots and can often need thinning out before flip to avoid spindley growth but other than that they should be just as good as they would b if grown normally.

If they start putting out 1, 2, and 3 finger leaves dont worry. Sometimes it can take a month to resume normal growth. Watch the new growth for 5 finger leaf sets. I have a few clones I took from some plants stuck in that re-veg mode and they are ridiculously bushy, I probably wont need to top them too much :)

PassTheJ said:

Looks good?

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Yes roots look good but as far as cloning then no, look how much root is there!
You asked, I answered.
Cheers bro

brazel said:

Yes roots look good but as far as cloning then no, look how much root is there!
You asked, I answered.
Cheers bro

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^^^^ What's he mean? Not enough roots yet to ground?

I think everything looks great, whatever step you plan on next they look ready for vegging. Happy growing, brother.

PassTheJ said:

^^^^ What's he mean? Not enough roots yet to ground?

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You're roots are too much, should've been planted already. Research, read, learn and cheers bro, only giving advice! Why would roots that long be good?

It's better to let them grow in their medium to that length. when the roots look like the top part, where barely poking through is the best time to to plant. You have beautiful roots now learn timing, cheers bro

My research says 3-4 inches. Also says not a problem to slice them a third up every 24 hours to shorten roots and trim bottom nodes.. I could keep doing this indefinitly.

Also, the size root you speak of wouldn't work for me considering I took clones 3 weeks into flowering and that size root was available after just 7 days in clones machine. I'd have to run it longer to revert..

PassTheJ said:

My research says 3-4 inches. Also says not a problem to slice them a third up every 24 hours to shorten roots and trim bottom nodes.. I could keep doing this indefinitly.

Also, the size root you speak of wouldn't work for me considering I took clones 3 weeks into flowering and that size root was available after just 7 days in clones machine. I'd have to run it longer to revert..

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brazel is saying that you should take your cuts out of the auto cloner once the roots have started and are 3 inches. plant them into what ever you are growing in and they will grow and reveg quicker.
The plant will be able to grow and you will see new growth if the roots can expand. If you just keep trimming the roots back then the plants just going to keep putting its energy into growing roots.

You can wait longer to take your cuts and they will reveg quicker if you transplant after roots start.

Ive seen people forget to take cuts from mothers they flower and 2 days hang drying they still took a cut and got roots and revegged.

destructo said:

brazel is saying that you should take your cuts out of the auto cloner once the roots have started and are 3 inches. plant them into what ever you are growing in and they will grow and reveg quicker.
The plant will be able to grow and you will see new growth if the roots can expand. If you just keep trimming the roots back then the plants just going to keep putting its energy into growing roots.

You can wait longer to take your cuts and they will reveg quicker if you transplant after roots start.

Ive seen people forget to take cuts from mothers they flower and 2 days hang drying they still took a cut and got roots and revegged.

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Thank you! Much better info! Why I love a community! And correct, clones rely on the life of what you made to be the clone not the plant! Really good point!

PassTheJ said:

My research says 3-4 inches. Also says not a problem to slice them a third up every 24 hours to shorten roots and trim bottom nodes.. I could keep doing this indefinitly.

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Research with site:.edu at the end of your Google search.
They don't need any amount of root if you can clone straight in soil, correct?
How do roots work? Feeder, tap, primary, radicle, lateral... etc?

To learn about roots is key!

Are you cloning or growing bonsai?

PassTheJ said:

Also, the size root you speak of wouldn't work for me considering I took clones 3 weeks into flowering and that size root was available after just 7 days in clones machine. I'd have to run it longer to revert..

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Roots are good in 7 days but would need to run longer to revert!?
What is needed to revert?

For some reason my little brain couldn't comprehend the fact that it doesn't matter where it reverts. Lmfao. I get why I sound stupid..

I have 25 clones and about 10 of them seem to grow way better then the rest but their roots are no different then the rest.

Safe to assume those are my best clones?

PassTheJ said:

For some reason my little brain couldn't comprehend the fact that it doesn't matter where it reverts. Lmfao. I get why I sound stupid..

I have 25 clones and about 10 of them seem to grow way better then the rest but their roots are no different then the rest.

Safe to assume those are my best clones?

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You're not (edit.. sound)
stupid, you're are smart by asking questions!

10 grow the best out of 25.....

Keep on your path!

People say transplanting is the best and when they show their transplants, what do you see? Roots that grew straight to the outside of container but roots are supposed to fill the container, right?
The ones who transplant use this as one of their reasons, correct?

What do roots want, food and water right?

If their roots went straight to the outside, they must be looking for something huh?

When you go to a strip club, you don't skip the women and the bar to try to leave, do you?

I plan on starfishing the roots like you would with asparagus. I also air pruned my gallon pots and plan on watering only the outside edge. I do this with other veggies and the roots basically run to the edge and once they touch air from the pot holes, they start 2 die which sends a signal from the plant to spend it's energy on root creation. Works wonders for my garden.

Just to experiment, I'll be running .5 pnds of air from a commercial aquarium pump into the pots. Curious to see effects..

Fun times ahead.. lol

Also for feed saturation..

PassTheJ said:

I plan on starfishing the roots like you would with asparagus

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These like lettuce are starts, like figs and others only need a piece of branch... different needs

PassTheJ said:

I also air pruned my gallon pots and plan on watering only the outside edge. I do this with other veggies and the roots basically run to the edge and once they touch air from the pot holes, they start 2 die which sends a signal from the plant to spend it's energy on root creation. Works wonders for my garden.

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Again, a root looks for water and food. If it goes to the outside its cause it's searching for what it needs or anchoring.

Air pruning is for long term.

PassTheJ said:

Just to experiment, I'll be running .5 pnds of air from a commercial aquarium pump into the pots. Curious to see effects..

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Your air stone or whatever will get clogged.

Roots need aeration but not like that unless under water