Newbie In Colorado

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Hello everyone,

This is my first post. I'm on my first ever grow and it's 3 durban poison plants. One out of the three is growing slower than the other two, and it has a slight lighter greener shade than the other two. I'm using Happy Frog Fox Farm soil, tempts are ranging between 68 to 75 degrees, and I'm not sure if it's a Sulphur or a Magnesium deficiency. They're a day shy of being three weeks from seed, and they were watered and fed about three days ago the recommended dose of FF Big Bloom. I'm growing in 5 gallon pots. Here are pictures below, any advice to get that little one improve would be super appreciated :smoking:
 
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Looks like 3 healthy plants.
Two are larger. ;)

Deficiencies occur when the dirt can't keep up with the plant - or sump'n is really out of whack .
Don't think either of those are happening .

It is a lot of planter, with little plant.
Harder to evenly water across all three.

I am no guru .
Just an observation .

Welcome.
Lotsa friendly folk here .
 
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Yeah, I'm just a little puzzle as to why, but no clue yet. I've seen different guides saying that it could be either a Sulphur or Magnesium deficiency, both treatable with water and epson salts. I just don't want to lose any of them. Here's another picture of the "small" one. Thanks for the replies :party1:
 
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The plants look great with no problems. A little variation between plants isn't unusual at all. The medium looks like it I a bit dry, but the plants don't look like they are thirsty. GOOD JOB!!
One problem that I want to nip in the bud (No pun intended!), is your worries that you have a deficiency of some type. Plants seldom need any nutrients until they get in full veg mode...the leaves begin to grow alternately, instead of the two matching leaf sets from when they are getting started. You are also using a fortified growing medium...FoxFarm tends to be a little hot as far as nutrient levels go right out of the bag. You shouldn't need any nutrients for another week or so (In my opinion), and to see any nutrient deficiencies, you would have to go a few months to see actual deficiencies. Patience is the hardest part of learning this craft. The plants grow on their own schedules and you just have to learn to trust yourself and the info given by others.
In summary, sleep good tonight and know that your plants are fine. You are doing well and have no problems that I can see. Someday you will look back and wonder what was so hard about everything!
 
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Thanks for the encouragement honestly. Need to be patient as well. I'll most likely update in about a week or so, unless I see anything weird. I plan on topping all three of them when the time is right (probably at the 4th node once it's strong enough).
 
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Ok everyone, one very quick update. They keep growing, which is good lol! However, I want to share these pics and be given advice as to when should I top them. I think they have or are about to have the 4th node grow, but I just need someone experienced to share their wisdom as to when I should top it.
 
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Ok everyone, one very quick update. They keep growing, which is good lol! However, I want to share these pics and be given advice as to when should I top them. I think they have or are about to have the 4th node grow, but I just need someone experienced to share their wisdom as to when I should top it.


The answer is, whenever you want to. There are so many ways to grow. Topping is commonly done before you flip from veg to bloom, but it can be done several times if you wish. Just try not to do it too frequently and try not to take away more than 1/3 of the overall plant at a time. Thats the general rule for just about any plant, even cutting your grass. Looks like you are doing well so far. My only suggestion is to try to trim the lower leaves so they do not sit on or in the soil. Leaves sitting on or in soil is like an invitation to problems like mold, mildew, spider mites, etc. Just a suggestion. Good luck and welcome to Colorado
 
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Alright, now two weeks from now I'll be flowering them, I know I should wait at least 2 weeks, but I'm also concerned about their height. My grow tent is about 6ft. tall, so either that or I'll have to get creative with lst and all that...
 
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Alright, now two weeks from now I'll be flowering them, I know I should wait at least 2 weeks, but I'm also concerned about their height. My grow tent is about 6ft. tall, so either that or I'll have to get creative with lst and all that...

You may find you will want to wait a little longer than 2 weeks, but we'll see how they do!
 
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Ok everyone, one very quick update. They keep growing, which is good lol! However, I want to share these pics and be given advice as to when should I top them. I think they have or are about to have the 4th node grow, but I just need someone experienced to share their wisdom as to when I should top it.
I guess it depends on how you define topping. My definition is to cut/pinch/remove the topmost growing opposite leaves and making sure to cut the stem between them, so that none of the two opposite leaves are left. I usually push the leaves below the ones to be cut downward, which exposes more of the stem. Get all of the leaves to prevent them from just growing gimpy and not doubling the branch. After about a week, you should see two new growth site or branches, which will continue to grow as your main stems. I encourage training these new growths to grow as horizontally as possible, which will help your yield.
There are other definitions of topping, so please don't take my method as the only one out there. Basically, if the main stem is cut, them two new growths will sprout at the next joint below the cut. This can be done repeatedly to get a lot of branching, but each new branch will be a little smaller than the original. If you overdo it, then it can affect bud size. As my rule of thumb, I split Sativa strains twice and Indica's once. If it is a clone, they are usually already very bushy and dense compared to a seed started plant...in those cases, I usually don't split at all, although I have a 7 ft headroom that helps with having to worry about plant height.
On a parting note, I would give more than 2 weeks after splitting/topping/pinching before switching to 12/12. Keeping your daylight hours longer than 18 hrs can help keep plants shorter. Stretching can usually be controlled thru training if you stay on top of them as they stretch. I know height is a concern, but I would give them a few more week minimum, if possible. Laying them out horizontally can both help mitigate the stretch as well as increase the bud sited by developing the buds along the entire branch as they grow vertically off of the horizontal branch
 
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Yeah, I'll probably give it three weeks instead since summer is near and my house doesn't have central air. My grow is in my basement so I know that it'll probably go up to mid 80's during the hottest time of the day. I'll probably do daytime in the night and night time in the day to keep tempts under control when they go into flowering...
 
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