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Any tips on trying to scrog a dense bush? I’m trying to get the lower stems to spread out first so that I can bring them up through the net. It’s Kali Mist so I am trying to keep the height before flipping below 12”. My idea is to have the entire 24”x24” one solid canopy of leaves below 12” before I flip to flower.

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Kalimist448 said:
Any tips on trying to scrog a dense bush? I’m trying to get the lower stems to spread out first so that I can bring them up through the net. It’s Kali Mist so I am trying to keep the height before flipping below 12”. My idea is to have the entire 24”x24” one solid canopy of leaves below 12” before I flip to flower.

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I find in my 4x4 I want the scrog net about 3/4 or just a bit better full when I flip or shit can turn into a jungle trust me that's not fun and you will likely lower your yields by having to do some unfavorable things . That net looks like 2x2 squares? I like 3.5 and a min of 3" because it allows me more room to bend when tucking so i don't break the stems. A 2x2 would make it hard to pull growth through and tuck.

I see some plant issues... what medium are you growing in? I don't trust my eye but it look like a tote DWC? what are your temps (air and water), humidity, ph and ppm?
 
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Aqua Man said:
I find in my 4x4 I want the scrog net about 3/4 or just a bit better full when I flip or shit can turn into a jungle trust me that's not fun and you will likely lower your yields by having to do some unfavorable things . That net looks like 2x2 squares? I like 3.5 and a min of 3" because it allows me more room to bend when tucking so i don't break the stems. A 2x2 would make it hard to pull growth through and tuck.

I see some plant issues... what medium are you growing in? I don't trust my eye but it look like a tote DWC? what are your temps (air and water), humidity, ph and ppm?
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We actually discussed things prior on a different post I had about two weeks ago. I’m not sure how to link back to that post though. The one with the 15 different fertilizers 😂
 
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Aqua Man said:
I find in my 4x4 I want the scrog net about 3/4 or just a bit better full when I flip or shit can turn into a jungle trust me that's not fun and you will likely lower your yields by having to do some unfavorable things . That net looks like 2x2 squares? I like 3.5 and a min of 3" because it allows me more room to bend when tucking so i don't break the stems. A 2x2 would make it hard to pull growth through and tuck.

I see some plant issues... what medium are you growing in? I don't trust my eye but it look like a tote DWC? what are your temps (air and water), humidity, ph and ppm?
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#5
First Time Grower (day 16 from seed)

I have been finding rust spots and discoloration on the leaves and I’m not sure what to do about it. I noticed it 4 days ago and it has shown up more and more. I was told the seeds where “Kali Mist” I have cut the leaves off since they looked beyond the point of return and I did not want the plant wasting energy on the leaves. I am using:

100% pure aeroponic system with a 20 gallon res

2 large air stones with a 793 GPH air pump

1638 GPH constant flow pump

“Morsen 2400W LED Grow Light 2 Dimmer On Off Switch Full Spectrum” light. ~ 12 in above plants
20 on 4 Off timer

6” filtered air in and air out

Humboldts secrets flower stacker
Humboldts secrets Tree Trunk
Humboldts secrets Sweet and sticky
Humboldts secrets Base A
Humboldts secrets Base B
Humboldts secrets Calmag and Iron
Humboldts secrets Golden Tree
Humboldts secrets Plant Enzymes
(Mixed according to feed chart for veg 1 to 700 PPM)

pH down to a pH of 5.00 right now allowed to fluctuate up to 6.00.

And I used a foliage spray ~5 days ago after turning the light off consisting of:
Bayer Neem Oil (1ml/L)
Nectar for the Gods Athenas Aminas (4ml/L)
Spray N Grow coco-wet (5ml/L)
Dyna Gro Pro-Tekt The Silicon Solution (2.5ml/l)
Natures Miracle Molecules Mr. Fulvic (1ml/l)
Technaflora Thrive Alive B-1 Green (2.5ml/L)
Technaflora Magical (2ml/l)
Technaflora Sugar Daddy (1ml/l)
(Mixed with tap water)

Water temps have been ~ 70 degrees F

Air temp ~80 F

Humidity ~ 45% using a diffuser (not enough room in tent for a humidifier)

FIMmed ~ 5 days ago since I need these plants to remain short and bushy. 4 plants in a 24”x24”x48” tent. (Kali Mist was only seeds I could get. I ideally want northern lights and LSD auto).

Plants started in a different aeroponic system under T5 HO grow lights using General Hydroponics part B to 700 ppm. PH of 5.50 allowed up to 6.00. I moved them into then new system 2 days ago. Humidity was ~35%, water temp ~80 F, air temp 75 F.


Upon relooking at the plants I see some purple now. So I feel like I have a phosphorus issue and originally burned the leaves with the foliage spray. I’d like to lower my water temp down but I don’t know a cheap way of doing that.


I added 60 Ml of A and B, 40 ML of tree trunk, and 5 Ml of golden tree to 20 gallons of water. Hoping it’s a deficiency and not nut burn
 
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I'm not gonna be much help with aeroponics. I remember now. I think there is a bit to much going on. I don't feel its a deficiency in terms of available nutrients but there is a transpiration issue and that could be from the foliar spray or roots. Fimming will often cause some funky new growth. 5.0 PH is definitely to low 5.6-6.0 is where I feel like you want to be but again this is aeroponics not hydroponics so IDK. Low humidity and high light in the shape they are in could make it worse. I don't feel I can give you the advice you need to bring this back.
 
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Aqua Man said:
I'm not gonna be much help with aeroponics. I remember now. I think there is a bit to much going on. I don't feel its a deficiency in terms of available nutrients but there is a transpiration issue and that could be from the foliar spray or roots. Fimming will often cause some funky new growth. 5.0 PH is definitely to low 5.6-6.0 is where I feel like you want to be but again this is aeroponics not hydroponics so IDK. Low humidity and high light in the shape they are in could make it worse. I don't feel I can give you the advice you need to bring this back.
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I have 4 more seedlings I’m growing as well. I figured I might as well try to ride these plants out just so that I can get all my mistakes out of the way at once and learn as much as possible along the way so the next batch come out nice.
 
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Kalimist448 said:
I have 4 more seedlings I’m growing as well. I figured I might as well try to ride these plants out just so that I can get all my mistakes out of the way at once and learn as much as possible along the way so the next batch come out nice.
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Absolutely man> I wish i could be of more help. I personally feel Aeroponics is pretty advanced stuff so the fact you made it this far as a first time grower using aeroponics is a pretty big accomplishment in my books. As for a scrog net I made my own out of 1" PVC and gardening string. I could not find 3.5" anywhere and I found 4" to be a big big for my liking. This is a pic of it, i can't remember the cost but it was cheap.

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#10
rogone said:
They look dry and dying
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Yeah not to healthy. Its a transpiration issue. The plant is not breathing per se well. Its closing the stomata and that's why the leaves are limp. In soil if no foliar was done I would say its over watered but this will be because of a root issue or the foliar spray that was applied.
 
#11
These holes in net look small ,and the thin wire like this without rubber on it can cut them really easily. Care with that
 
#12
rogone said:
These holes in net look small ,and the thin wire like this without rubber on it can cut them really easily. Care with that
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Good call very thin, I'm assuming poly and could cut into the plant from pressure over time
 
#13
If i'm honest I would take the net off and flip to flower. I don't think it will make it to harvest and if it does it will be poor. But see how you do things could turn around I just don't see it. You have gained some info and I wouldn't give up on it. Something like aeroponics is advanced and its going to take time to get it right if your set on it.
 
#14
If your dead set on it I will venture into some reading and see if I can't help ya more on the next grow. I always love learning and I can usually pick out the key important factors pretty quickly
 
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