Help with cloning

dire wolf said:

Taking too long shouldent be a big concern , as long as they do actually root
A long time to me is around 15 to 18 days , so if its around that time , i wouldent worry much

Make sure not to leave the dome on without airing , venting every few days then constantly for next week to freshen air etc ...very important

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its day 28 almost though

Make sure water is ph'd correctly w/ minimal nutes, e.g. half of week 1 veg maybe 200ppm or so. PH will climb over time. I use aero cloner and keep pH between 5-6.

Dabberguy said:

its day 28 almost though

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Hey dabber , that sounds like a problem , give me a min to think about this one.....

I built a cloner in a tote. Uses an aquarium pump with small sprayers.
The cuttings go in neoprene collars.
I cut the leaf tips a few days before I take the cutting. Cut, immediately dip and place in a cup of water...faster is better so you don't get air in the stem.
Transfer to the collars and in they go.

The pump/ sprayers are on a timer, 15 on, 30 off...they spray the ends of the cuttings from underneath.
I've switched lights...using a cheap low watt blurple at the moment...3' up on 18/6 schedule.
I pH my tap water to 6.0. it comes out at 113-115 ppm.
No domes, no misting. I'm in the desert, my RH sits at about 20% every day.
I get roots in 7-10 days on average...sometimes a bit quicker but not usually. I check pH daily..
95% success rate.

Hey dabberguy , im going to give you a step by step tomorrow , and you can tell me if there is something useful , or if youve tried what i say and still have failure.....
It shouldent be that tough , so we can try and figure it out.....

First question is , what is that funky black stuff on the stems in the left side pics .....
Second question , where did you get the idea to punch a different hole in your plugs ?
3 rd question , how old are the clones in the very first picture?

Did you have a dome on that entire time ?

Oxycloner
About $79
Rock solid and easy as easy can be
Small and I use the crap out of it
Roots in 7 days to 12
Tap water
Nothin else
Dipped in clonex and that’s it.
I change the water 2x a month


They list it at $90 but u can find it at 70-80

Jiffy 7s soak em, squeeze them out. I don't spray or use anything but tap water and a dip in stim root. I just use scissors cut at nodes. Once in pucks i throw in clone tray with high dome, fluorescent light about a foot away. 99 percent success rate for 20 years.

Jiffy cubes squeezed out so not soaked, cut stem up middle to 1st or 2nd node, dip in clonex gel & stick in jiffy pellet. I dont use dome but I mist couple times a day until they start to look perky again, they sit about 24" under 1000w led on floor of veg tent. I dont use heat mat & my humidity is only about 40% in tent. I also trim my clones to top couple nodes & them trim off 1/2 of each remaining leaf. They look bad for while & eat some of their leaves but I have +90% success ratio even on 1" clones. I use harsh methods but they work. Remember to clean blades & hands with rubbing alcohol before any cutting

dire wolf said:

First question is , what is that funky black stuff on the stems in the left side pics .....
Second question , where did you get the idea to punch a different hole in your plugs ?
3 rd question , how old are the clones in the very first picture?

Did you have a dome on that entire time ?

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Think the black stuff you are talking about is the clonex gel stained on the stem. The holes were already punched in the oasis slabs and clones I took wouldn’t fit in the pre-made holes. Clones were taken between the 6-8 of February. I usually take domes off for a hour a day or so. I have a ez cloner but for space reasons I’m not using it don’t really have a problem using that unless I just forget to plant something and it gets overgrown

Hey dabber , did you "strip" the skin off the clones in the pic withh the clonex on them ? On the left side ?

dire wolf said:

Hey dabber , did you "strip" the skin off the clones in the pic withh the clonex on them ? On the left side ?

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Yes, maybe not that high tho, I try to only do the part that goes in the cube.

I’m gonna do a few more trays today to see if they pop faster now, a lot seemed to pop after I put the heat mats under them

Cool , one idea , next time just do a slight "scrape" on the stem , i just scratch 1/2 side and all below the plug line . Also i use a lot less clonex , i make sure its all below in the plug , if you get some on the leafs it kills them quickly , and a lot of it on a raw stem may have a really negative effect in my opinion....
Just some thoughts ....

Also the hole you popped is a really good idea, i only asked why you did it because i see very few people doing it .....thats a good move in my opinion , also if you can get some peat rapid rooters , i would give them a shot ....