Nectarivorous said:

Thanks mate. Little hint of Mg deficiency juuust appearing, mainly on the stunted one. I read that usually half nutes are actually enough so I thought I'd halve the 2ml/litre the bottle recommended - appears they are honest. Plus I'm using RO. Only did 3 feeds with the reduced amount and that was enough to see some transported out of the leaves. Have gone back up and once again if it ain't broke don't fix it I guess.

Any ideas why the one plant not showing pistils yet after nearly 3 weeks? Just the genetic lottery of grow from seed?

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Nectarivorous said:

Day 21 of flower today! So I've been running 2.3 EC on my feeds, being:

RO water - 3ml/Litre of Silica, allow to dissolve as long ap, at least 20 mins
pH down to 6.0-6.4
Calmag 2ml/litre
Canna A 3ml/litre
Fulvic 1ml/litre
Canna B 3ml/litre
PK 1.5 ml/litre
Cannazym 2.5 ml/litre
Biodiesel (batshit and stuff) 4ml/litre

Have the lights sitting at 16" from canopy (2x Mars Hydro TSL 2000, total 600W, 4x4 tent), getting 1250 PPFD at the highest tops, most of the canopy top below is getting 800+, most of it 900-950. That is obviously pushing them pretty hard, I haven't tested the CO2 in there but it's a very small room that is exhausted on a 4" and has filtered air coming in through the air conditioning system, so perhaps they are getting all the CO2 they need. All I know is they are loving it.

Run off EC has just hit 2.7 today so I'd say judging by their little dance they are just where they want to be for light and nutes. pH couldn't be better, 6.0 in, 6.2 out every time. I can't take the pots out of the drainage pots because net and irrigation, but I suspect these have killer roots through the bottom and into the drain reservoir. They are air pruning, I get little bits in the runoff but they are always white and not rotted. The EC will come down a little, I've had to go from 5 litres a day across the tent getting 20% back, to giving 12 litres today and getting just over 10% back. Will have to stay on top of their increasing need and make sure plenty of run off to keep that getting away from me.

Keeping eye out for light stress, but I'd be more worried if they were turning away from the lights. No curling or canoeing. All I know is I plucked a stringy leaf from a node just above the net and got a bit of contact with the bud. My fingers smelled like pine and key lime pie. I'm really happy with node spacing, I deliberately increased diurnal range as soon as I was finished filling out the net to promote increased spacing above the net. Should help with rot and mould prevention. I still think those tight bunches at the top should give killer colas. To reiterate I'm calling a pound dried flowers as a pass mark for first grow

Let me know if I'm missing anything, otherwise enjoy photos of happy flower girls

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Aqua Man said:

Your pushing these ladies to the max bro walking that line like a champ. Watch the runoff EC. I can see some early N tox but nothing to bad. May wanna lighten the feed a bit or a bit more runoff the next few feeds.

They looking amazing man you should be very proud.

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Aqua Man said:

Your pushing these ladies to the max bro walking that line like a champ. Watch the runoff EC. I can see some early N tox but nothing to bad. May wanna lighten the feed a bit or a bit more runoff the next few feeds.

They looking amazing man you should be very proud.

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Nectarivorous said:

Just cuz I was worried they weren't frosting up thought I'd grab some macros. Love the camera on the iPhone 12. I needn't have worried about the frost...

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Nectarivorous said:

Got that run off back up to about 25% just to make sure things are stabilised. 2.3 in, 2.4 out out now. Very happy with that. Literally have not had pH move from 6.3 out since you have me the DL on buffering my RO. It's more stable now than it was with tap even. I love the feeling of control I have since moving to the RO, over pH as well as knowing exactly what they're eating all the time. As Homer Simpson said, this most be how god feels when he's holding a gun.

I'm happy I've managed to keep them quite squat and lollipopped them well, has kept water usage reasonably low, they are still happy with 3x waterings per day of 5% pot volume - bear in mind they are 8 gal though. They're basically getting a gallon a day each. Hopefully that will ramp way up in the next couple weeks though as this will mean they are doing what they need to do to fatten those heads

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Nectarivorous said:

Still trying to work out what to do about stunty in bottom left. Just seeing first pistils tonight, reckon that puts her a good week behind her sisters. The other girls are starting Liquid Lead from next week. Not sure if that's a brand name that will mean anything in the US or if it's a common name for a bulking agent, but that's what it is. Lots of simple carbs, short and long chain aminos and heavy on the K.

If this girl stays on the system she'll be getting this a good week early. I could take her offline and water by hand but really can't bf. I don't expect her to be a huge producer in any case but you never know with these little non vigorous ones sometimes they produce beautiful fruits. Think I will just use her as an experiment into what happens if I bring the feed schedule forward a week.

Interestingly because she was still in veg up to now I was able to get 5 really nice clones from her. Literally just banged them in water and say them near the LED on the stove hood. They are loving it. If that plant turns out to bang out nice flowers I'll have five of her ready to bang straight into flower in the tent. Going to run air pots next time, 3 gallon X5 instead of 4x 8 gal. Weather here is perfect to have them vegging outside as of about two weeks. Watch this space.

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Aqua Man said:

They all clones or seed? I forget sorry. Don't discount a plant that's healthy and a but smaller. Gems come in all shapes and sizes bro.

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Aqua Man said:

At that size they'll prob max out about 1.25 to 1.5 gpd.


They all clones or seed? I forget sorry. Don't discount a plant that's healthy and a but smaller. Gems come in all shapes and sizes bro.

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Cypress66 said:

Very true i have been very surprised with the results of my results with the small and the results in the end sometimes the early front runner will not always win the race but the little one is the best one they are always the most surprising thing to be honest they are the only thing that I’ve ever grown but they never cease to amaze me with the way they are doing what they do to make them buds they are a lifeline to the people peace

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Nectarivorous said:

Yeah they continue to amaze me, and have already been more medicine than I could have hoped for and I haven't even smoked a bud yet

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ComfortablyNumb said:

You are raising some fine looking ladies. Right up on the bleeding edge. I love it.

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Aqua Man said:

Growing is the addictive part of cannabis

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Nectarivorous said:

Yeah they continue to amaze me, and have already been more medicine than I could have hoped for and I haven't even smoked a bud yet

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Cypress66 said:

You have to have patience and it will be better if cured and then it will save your money and your bud will be better than anything that you’ve been buying and it is something that you’ve grown can’t get any better peace

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Nectarivorous said:

Exactly right bro. I should have enough that I can 'waste' a bit by smoking it when dried but not cured yet, and still have a whole heap to lay down for 30 day cure. It will certainly be better than anything for sale around these parts! Our Vietnamese friends over here knew how to bang out quantity but it is all wet and smells of head clippings

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