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Please help, mystery issue that I cannot solve….. driving me insane

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Please help, mystery issue that I cannot solve….. driving me insane

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TheCoatimundi said:
I apologize I forgot to mention that I don’t see root aphids being a problem I know that they are hard to diagnose but I’ve also seen them elsewhere and am always on the lookout for pests, I will try a good flush. I am not reusing the coco, no.
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How long have you been running the Athena Pro Line?
 
#22
So this is what I was able to find regarding my cities water, I don’t see anything concerning as far as sodium goes but I am by no means a scientist and I’ll be the first to say I do not know what a lot of these things are.
 

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#23
I’d also like to say thank you to those who have given their input and help on this thread thus far, nothing goes unappreciated.
 
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TheCoatimundi said:
I’ve been running the Athena pro line for close to a year now, I run it elsewhere with amazing results. Before that I ran General hydroponics 3part alongside a few additives.
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I ran Athena Pro Line for close to two years and it can be difficult to use. By any chance is the grow and bloom have to be scraped out of the tub or bag and it is all clumped together?
It seems like you problem started about the same time as when you switched to Athena.
 
#27
I store my Athena in 5gal buckets with screw on lids to avoid any moisture getting into and damaging the product I am aware of people letting it clump up and get nasty but that’s not the case, this issue actually arose while I was still using GH so the nutrients have also been taken into consideration.
 
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TheCoatimundi said:
I store my Athena in 5gal buckets with screw on lids to avoid any moisture getting into and damaging the product I am aware of people letting it clump up and get nasty but that’s not the case, this issue actually arose while I was still using GH so the nutrients have also been taken into consideration.
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Than I would take and water the hell out of one plant several times or just pick your crappiest looking plant and pull it out of the pot and start looking for root aphids because there is not many other things that have not been covered. I know you mentioned you know what they look like but there is definitely something causing your issues.
Have. you tried hanging yellow stick traps for fliers?
 
#29
I put sticky traps on all my trees out of precaution, sadly no fliers. You don’t understand how badly I wish this was pests lol just so I’d have something to point my finger at.
 
#30
Give a few the flush with 2.0ec then see if you can see improvements in 3-5 days in those ones. Make sure to tun about 14 gal through the ones you want to test on. Unfortunately i dont think this is going to be a quick fix or i feel you would have found it already.

I think this is going to be a grind and a process of elimination type thing. Not to be negative but just realistic in expectation. But i do think its only a matter of time to get it figured
 
#32
TheCoatimundi said:
The source of co2 has always been a tank with titan regulator and titan controller. I even went as far as replacing both with the same suspicion of ethylene. Although to my knowledge a tank and regulator don’t off gas anything.

Pots are 7gals, watering practices are old school I do hand water but I’ve been hand watering for years with great results elsewhere. Again I’m not the worlds greatest but I am confident with my ability to feel out and know when a plant needs watering.

Nutrients I run are Athena pro line salts at 1.5ec along with cleanse a hypochlorous acid product they have in order to keep the roots clean and healthy.

This is the only photo I have currently of the room but any details needed I can provide. I think it is worth noting this is a basement and there is a furnace, hot water heater, dryer etc outside the parameter of the room.
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looks like a lot of severely praying leaves..
light stress..
 
#33
GNick55 said:
looks like a lot of severely praying leaves..
light stress..
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Yeah i think thats from the plants not being healthy but none the less light stress is light stress and i think where your headed is exactly right brother
 
#34
Aqua Man said:
Yeah i think thats from the plants not being healthy but none the less light stress is light stress and i think where your headed is exactly right brother
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most issues are simple, people make it complicated..
not saying this is the situation here..
he’s tried alot of things etc.. but no mention of doing a flowering with lights higher up or half the room with the lights i’d say 10 inches higher than what it is now.. before doing anything else.. you’ll know in a few days by how they react.. won’t heal damage but help save trichomes from burning off.. probably be stronger weed..
summer sun is hot and strong, fall time when plants are budding the sun is not as strong..
 
#35
Unfortunately fixtures are fixed to the ceiling I have these lights at 500w right now bc they’re not doing well but in the past I’ve ran up to 750w with no negative affects with about the same distance from the canopy. Something external I can’t figure out is exacerbating these common simple issues and putting them into the spotlight.
 
#36
TheCoatimundi said:
Unfortunately fixtures are fixed to the ceiling I have these lights at 500w right now bc they’re not doing well but in the past I’ve ran up to 750w with no negative affects with about the same distance from the canopy. Something external I can’t figure out is exacerbating these common simple issues and putting them into the spotlight.
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Thats my feelings also… now the process of finding the source 🤔
 
#37
I’ll be working on checking some stuff out and hopefully I’ll report back with good news, thank you all again.
 
#38
I may piss a lot of people off by saying this but your problem is in the water. You have an impurity content that's getting in the way of other nutrients locking them out. Its "cumulative" and takes time to affect the plants! The in-coming water changed and has affected your garden because its been modified by water treatment systems. Treated water changes from time to time. If you use RO water and fortiy it with cal mag to stabilize it before adding nutrients from the beginning you won't have any differences in the water. Your successful gardens in the past were all the same but the only difference now is water has excess hydroxyl content. You can not see it in the water but you can't see it in the leaf.
 
#39
Aqua Man said:
another good outside the box point… has the municipality switched sources of buffers? Say from calcium carbonate to sodium bicarbonate
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This just recently happened to me- stumped and almost lost a few plants before we figured it out damn city water ! Changed to sodium and upped the cholrimine of whatever it’s called - amazing how water content can really fuck shit up!
 
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