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Homegrown buds vs dispensary buds.

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Blastfact said:
Commercial weed is grown as fast as possible. It is pushed hard in grow and many use massive amounts of silica enhancer/bloom boost. Makes the buds hard and dense feeling. They also break the buds down farther than we do in finale trim and cure. So there hard little nuggets. Customers don't like paying for stem weight. And around here they drown the plants in CalMag throughout the grow. All weed in the dispensaries looks, smells, taste and smokes the same. Walk in and it smells like they washed the walls down with Calmag. I much prefer my product to anything in the dispensaries or on the street.
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most my customers dont care about stemwieght ,they want to showoff the 1/2 to 3/4 0z bud which is probably 25%stem.it all comes out even as I charge less and they get stronger,prettier pot than the dispo.
 
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the rrock said:
most my customers dont care about stemwieght ,they want to showoff the 1/2 to 3/4 0z bud which is probably 25%stem.it all comes out even as I charge less and they get stronger,prettier pot than the dispo.
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Your "friends" have good taste... I could go on hours about this. I quit smoking weed for over 30 years. When I smoked in the 80's we would get big bags of Sinsemilla and a 1/4 would stuff a sandwich bag full. They had stems, but looked so beautiful. (and smelled great too)

30 years late I come back to weed that looks like cat turds and smells like a skunk orgy... An entire ounce fits into a little tiny jar? WTF?

Weed has gone down hill not up if you ask me, I know, I was there way back when. Half the stuff you all smoke now is complete garbage...(old man yelling at the clouds) Edit: I am talking about dispensary weed, I've yet to try someone else's home grow...
 
#24
The SF-1000 is only a 100w light, a great beginner light but only really useful for veg. For flower, as you know, you’re only gonna get airy buds. If you’re on a budget, have a look at the Marshydro FC-1500E. It would be more than sufficient for your space ( I run it in slightly larger-2.3x2.3) and with only 50w extra power you could achieve up a further 200 ppfd to help grow more dense nugs.
 
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Krampus1987 said:
The SF-1000 is only a 100w light, a great beginner light but only really useful for veg. For flower, as you know, you’re only gonna get airy buds. If you’re on a budget, have a look at the Marshydro FC-1500E. It would be more than sufficient for your space ( I run it in slightly larger-2.3x2.3) and with only 50w extra power you could achieve up a further 200 ppfd to help grow more dense nugs.
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Thanks, I'll have to disagree with you here though. An SF-2000 is in reality just two SF-1000's attached to each other. It will only help with a large grow space or multiple plants. I've seen many choose to use two SF-1000's instead of an SF-2000 (One light per plant is better, you have more control of height)

There is a new Spiderfarmer SE-1500 I may consider, but I doubt it will make a difference... 100 watts is plenty in a 1.5 x 1.5 grow space....I've posted a few threads on this subject as well, "Should I use more wattage in my small space?" The answer was a big NO... Hell, at 12 inches it starts roasting my plant leaves, why would I want more wattage?
 
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I work at a dispensary in the processing side of things. I get to talk to vendors and see their new and old products ALL the time. I can tell you that good growers for dispensaries are few and far between. We regularly get pounds of absolute bullshit, sell it in half ounces for $70-$80 a pop.

The testing, at least in my state, is always full of shit. Recently we received some prepacked 8ths from a company, and that bud was supposedly testing at 37% THC. Thats a croc of shit. We have infused weed with lower testing than that. To add insult to injury, the weed doesnt even look that great.

Companies have found tons of shortcuts and other ways to maximize profits while leaving the quality of the buds in the dust. My brother in law is an agricultural inspector for the state we live in. One of his coworkers recently did an audit on a BIG commercial grow out here. Well in the audit, they found the company spraying certain pesticides on the plants, knowing the testinf facilities dont test for those types of pesticides! So people are consuming contaminated "medical products"!!!

The industry needs a kick in the ass. Mainly the rich buttholes diving in without the slightest knowledge of anything involving cannabis. Only business knowledge. Its not a good situation. Id recommend growing your own if you wanna be able to trust it, or go with the highest quality companies you can find (alien labs is great where i live).
 
#27
mstrpkl said:
I work at a dispensary in the processing side of things. I get to talk to vendors and see their new and old products ALL the time. I can tell you that good growers for dispensaries are few and far between. We regularly get pounds of absolute bullshit, sell it in half ounces for $70-$80 a pop.

The testing, at least in my state, is always full of shit. Recently we received some prepacked 8ths from a company, and that bud was supposedly testing at 37% THC. Thats a croc of shit. We have infused weed with lower testing than that. To add insult to injury, the weed doesnt even look that great.

Companies have found tons of shortcuts and other ways to maximize profits while leaving the quality of the buds in the dust. My brother in law is an agricultural inspector for the state we live in. One of his coworkers recently did an audit on a BIG commercial grow out here. Well in the audit, they found the company spraying certain pesticides on the plants, knowing the testinf facilities dont test for those types of pesticides! So people are consuming contaminated "medical products"!!!

The industry needs a kick in the ass. Mainly the rich buttholes diving in without the slightest knowledge of anything involving cannabis. Only business knowledge. Its not a good situation. Id recommend growing your own if you wanna be able to trust it, or go with the highest quality companies you can find (alien labs is great where i live).
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Thanks for taking the time to write this, I was hoping someone working in the industry would chime in. It sounds to me comparing my homegrown to dispensary weed is something I should stop doing. It's two different worlds, one is after profit (and barely making a penny) the other is about growing the best possible (home grows)... Two different worlds.

I love my buds, I think I'll stop worrying about this...
 
#28
Galgrows said:
Some of those dispenseries have over 1yrold weed could be more.
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Youre completely right. My dispensary held a pound for 2 years before finally disposing of it..... and it was already waiting at the vendors facility for a year before that. Always check those harvest dates on your weed before buying at a dispensary! Dispensary is required to have that info on the package. At least in my state.
 
#29
I would like to go back to the fluffy bud thing. I know youre very happy with your weed but with a SF1000 in a small tent you should be able to get tight nugs, is not because of a lack of light. Do you top them? The only times I had fluffy buds was when I toped strains that were not suposed to be toped (autos and regular feminized alike). I use x2 130W in one tent and x2 150W in another tent, no fancy brand, and my best harvest with tight and big as hell colas was with the 130W ones, which also have a fan so more like 120W and no samsung diodes, chinese. There's something you can improve. Do you keep track of the VPD?
 
#30
I dont wanna spam so I will only post a couple of pictures but I can assure you they were tight, even when fresly harvested they were tight:
A few buds (I had way more like these, this is half a plant out of 4 and only the colas)
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Close up on the trichomes and density:
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Strain: Crystal Candy from Sweet Seeds, 20 euros a pack of 3+1 so not the fanciest seeds either.
 
#31
Here I have a nug of melonade runtz from the last summer grow, no AC, grown under 37ºC so it doesnt have as many trichomes as the Crystal Candy. But still you can hear the crunch and see how much pressure I need to put in to split it and you can see inside is pure bud, this should be your buds:
 
#32
Eledin said:
I dont wanna spam so I will only post a couple of pictures but I can assure you they were tight, even when fresly harvested they were tight:
A few buds (I had way more like these, this is half a plant out of 4 and only the colas)
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Close up on the trichomes and density:
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Strain: Crystal Candy from Sweet Seeds, 20 euros a pack of 3+1 so not the fanciest seeds either.
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This looks a lot like mine at harvest... looking good ! Can you show me how to make them into rocks like the dispensary bud?
 
#33
longbottom said:
This looks a lot like mine at harvest... looking good ! Can you show me how to make them into rocks like the dispensary bud?
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Yes, but for that I need to know whats lacking in your grow, you certainly have the light to make them tight as tight can be. Do you have a thermohygrometer in the room? Temps and humidity in check for optimal VPD? Whats your approach? Do you let them grow without training or do you train them?
 
#34
dispensaries and wearhouses have a bottom line, a home grower not so much. There are lots of good quality cannabis lineages around wearhouses and dispensaries dont touch simply because there are strains that produce far more weght.

If you were growing the same exact cuts their growers have spent many years hunting through strains to find (in most cases) youll have similar texture and density.

the buds are smaller because they are broken down to remove the stem weight most buyers complain about being in larger buds.

I have a couple plants that produce rock dense, colored buds very similar to what youll find in the commercial sector, becuse they are commercial cannabis cuts, and most are self bred selected F1 phenotypes run from clones in the commercial world

More often then not my fluffier, more obscure connoisseur lineages are better quality flower in the end than my commercial cuts, but the commercial cuts tend to grossly out yield (by weight) my more connoisseur lineages.


Like most everything cannabis related in the end when it comes to skilled growers, its the genetics that mean more than anything else.


Source: Home grower with a pretty decent history in the commercial side of things cannabis as well. My flow gdp cut would provide just about any decent grower with "dispensary quality/likeness" flowers. Lot of color, dense as a rock, and a smell that permeates entire rooms once cured. Is a money maker, not a connoisseur lineage, to draw a distinction.
 
#35
Eledin said:
Here I have a nug of melonade runtz from the last summer grow, no AC, grown under 37ºC so it doesnt have as many trichomes as the Crystal Candy. But still you can hear the crunch and see how much pressure I need to put in to split it and you can see inside is pure bud, this should be your buds:
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Thanks for this, I'm seeing a lot of stuff that looks a lot like mine, not the dispensary bud.... I guess I'm ok after all.
 
#36
Eledin said:
Yes, but for that I need to know whats lacking in your grow, you certainly have the light to make them tight as tight can be. Do you have a thermohygrometer in the room? Temps and humidity in check for optimal VPD? Whats your approach? Do you let them grow without training or do you train them?
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Pics above show my grow method, I grow low and flat using either a trellis or manifold. I veg for a long time to build a thick frame on the plant...

Yes, I monitor RH and temps, I must have 5 hydrometers hanging around (I smoke cigars, I have a ton of these)....

Manifold using extended veg to bulk up the frame before flower. (I've also used a trellis to train, but like manifolds)...



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Same plant late flower

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#37
Hey ! to everyone sending bud pics, those do NOT look like the rock hard dispensary buds I'm buying around here. Your bud pics look a lot like my homegrown buds...

Dam I need some grower friends, I'd love to swap some buds and try some new strains....




Nirvana NL bud
 
#38
longbottom said:
Hey ! to everyone sending bud pics, those do NOT look like the rock hard dispensary buds I'm buying around here. Your bud pics look a lot like mine...

Dam I need some grower friends, I'd love to swap some buds and try some new strains....
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I dont know man, you said your buds are fluffier, mine are hard as a rock, so based on what you said I thought yours were not hard hahaha so are they fluffy or are they rock hard?
 
#39
longbottom said:
Thanks for this, I'm seeing a lot of stuff that looks a lot like mine, not the dispensary bud.... I guess I'm ok after all.
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O yea dude, dont worry too much about the density. I mean, worry about it, improve it if you can, but dont let it bother you. I just finished my first grow and ended up with some really good but really fluffy stuff. Just keep growing :)
 

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1 of 5 hoop houses March/April photo's

Most plants are at least 6 to 8 months old before going into the fields in the last week of may.
 

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