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Correctamundo, Richie! PPM pens (as opposed to EC) are kind of stupid, there are some folks who follow the Hanna Scale (700 conversion method). If you can see it as EC, you can decide which math you want to use for conversion because EC is the true value and ppm is how you are interpreting it.
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i think i am generation after :D
I'm from the generation that although I was young at the time, all my brother's friends were just like Eddie Haskell. If any of you don't know who he was, I have a tissue for your snot nose.
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3 weeks down.
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Me: There are few things that rise to the same level of annoying as trying to unwrap a string cheese with greasy fingers.
Fitted Sheet: Hold my beer.
Fitted Sheet: Hold my beer.
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@trygrowup:
My Blue Lab pen reads in three formats: EC, ppm on the 500 scale, and ppm on the 700 scale. I learned using ppm on the 500 scale, so that’s what I prefer to use. It’s helpful to think of these as different languages describing the same thing.
The pen measures Electrical Conductivity (EC), which is the native measurement. PPM is simply EC converted using a multiplier. EC is the actual measurement. ppm is just EC multiplied by either 500 or 700 depending on scale. Same soup, different spoon. e.g. 500 x 1.8= 900ppm or 700 x 1.8 = 1260ppm
I prefer speaking in parts per million, while Ninja prefers speaking in EC, but we’re both describing the same nutrient strength—just using different terms. It’s like saying ta-may-toe versus ta-mah-toe, or Celsius versus Fahrenheit. The important thing is that everyone knows which scale is being used. EC is universal and unambiguous. When someone says ppm, most people assume the 500 scale unless otherwise specified, (500 scale = USA, 700 Scale = some EU), but it’s always best to clarify.
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Do you know what KISS means?Thanks for clarifying @PlumberSoCal2.
I'll give soil one more year, then consider.
Anyway i went with thinking it was a combo of over/under watering and over/under feeding and gave it some water at 550 ppm. I don't really know what that means in terms of strength but i made some tea and diluted it because it was like 1500 ppm so i will se if it works
Also it had drank the water in bottom tray that was why i went with that. But i'll remember what you said thanks
.....Green Leaf nutes are the way to go. Its like plug n play....Veg:
Mega Crop 1 part. 5mg per gallon
Cal mag. 2mg p/g
Flower:
Mega Crop 1 part. 2.5 mg p/g
Sweet Candy. 2.5 mg p/g
Sea Kelp. 1 mg p/g
Bud Explosion. 1 mg p/g
This combo has done me great....never a problem.
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Do you know what KISS means?
Veg:
Mega Crop 1 part. 5mg per gallon
Cal mag. 2mg p/g
Flower:
Mega Crop 1 part. 2.5 mg p/g
Sweet Candy. 2.5 mg p/g
Sea Kelp. 1 mg p/g
Bud Explosion. 1 mg p/g
This combo has done me great....never a problem.
I thought it wasn't available in California but according to one thought thread I came across, it's because there is no Proposition 65 compliant labeling. (A stupid state law requiring a warning label if a product has potential risk of cancer or reproductive harm). For those of you who aren't in California, Prop 65 is a bounty law that allows private attorneys to sue noncompliant businesses for exhorbant amounts of money. Any time you see a Proposition 65 warning sign somewhere it seems strange or out of place, it's because an attorney won a large sum of money to get it placed there.
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I think you meant grams g p/g, not mg p/gDo you know what KISS means?
Veg:
Mega Crop 1 part. 5mg per gallon
Cal mag. 2mg p/g
Flower:
Mega Crop 1 part. 2.5 mg p/g
Sweet Candy. 2.5 mg p/g
Sea Kelp. 1 mg p/g
Bud Explosion. 1 mg p/g
This combo has done me great....never a problem.
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Yep getting old sucks....I think you meant grams g p/g, not mg p/g
thanks Mike.Again I messed it up....delete the mg and replace with gram.....mg would be 2 grains...Do you know what KISS means?
Veg:
Mega Crop 1 part. 5mg per gallon
Cal mag. 2mg p/g
Flower:
Mega Crop 1 part. 2.5 mg p/g
Sweet Candy. 2.5 mg p/g
Sea Kelp. 1 mg p/g
Bud Explosion. 1 mg p/g
This combo has done me great....never a problem.
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Ha ha @Crazyformes yes I know about KISS and thanks for sharing, but correct me if i'm wrong.
I see treads every day with people following a simple scheme having problems getting it right. Thats true isn't it?
Also I'm not a fan of schemes. It's so boring for me. I use them now and then but more like a point in the right direction.
I do get that advice often but i'm always like nah.
When i get my own nutes dialed in i will hopefully end up with knowledge i can translate into real life. Makes me more flexible. I can't do that following a scheme.
I can already see myself telling nice single women " I think your rhododendron needs nitrate"
But thats just how i prioritize.
Oh that reminds of one day at work.
I was out removing some weed in a garden and i saw this naked woman sunbathing in the gadren.
I was so impressed that i couldn't help myself saying. "What beautiful clitoris you have there mam"
She answered. "I don't know anything about that. It my husband that takes care of the plants"
I see treads every day with people following a simple scheme having problems getting it right. Thats true isn't it?
Also I'm not a fan of schemes. It's so boring for me. I use them now and then but more like a point in the right direction.
I do get that advice often but i'm always like nah.
When i get my own nutes dialed in i will hopefully end up with knowledge i can translate into real life. Makes me more flexible. I can't do that following a scheme.
I can already see myself telling nice single women " I think your rhododendron needs nitrate"
But thats just how i prioritize.
Oh that reminds of one day at work.
I was out removing some weed in a garden and i saw this naked woman sunbathing in the gadren.
I was so impressed that i couldn't help myself saying. "What beautiful clitoris you have there mam"
She answered. "I don't know anything about that. It my husband that takes care of the plants"
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You had them 714 gorilla biscuits on your mind....Yep getting old sucks....
Again I messed it up....delete the mg and replace with gram.....mg would be 2 grains...
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Simplest is best. Like I mentioned. The Greenleaf nutes give you the opportunity to tweek your mix....just mentioned what I use. I did use FF.....had issues with nutrient burns in different strains. Not the problem with Greenleaf.
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Lilly 714's....back in the day.You had them 714 gorilla biscuits on your mind....
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I'm likely the one before since it came out when I was in the Navy...but "Different Strokes".
i think i am generation after :D
The pre spin of the pre spin was more my bag.
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Ok then i go with the ppm pen meter because i have one already.@trygrowup:
My Blue Lab pen reads in three formats: EC, ppm on the 500 scale, and ppm on the 700 scale. I learned using ppm on the 500 scale, so that’s what I prefer to use. It’s helpful to think of these as different languages describing the same thing.
The pen measures Electrical Conductivity (EC), which is the native measurement. PPM is simply EC converted using a multiplier. EC is the actual measurement. ppm is just EC multiplied by either 500 or 700 depending on scale. Same soup, different spoon. e.g. 500 x 1.8= 900ppm or 700 x 1.8 = 1260ppm
I prefer speaking in parts per million, while Ninja prefers speaking in EC, but we’re both describing the same nutrient strength—just using different terms. It’s like saying ta-may-toe versus ta-mah-toe, or Celsius versus Fahrenheit. The important thing is that everyone knows which scale is being used. EC is universal and unambiguous. When someone says ppm, most people assume the 500 scale unless otherwise specified, (500 scale = USA, 700 Scale = some EU), but it’s always best to clarify.
I have been reading up on the subject and have a better understanding now and got something to work on thanks to you guys.
I found this to skip the calculation part
Once again thanks
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