Skywalker, is she done?

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The lil resin sticks are growing in length. There closer to the leaf surfuce. and most sticks dont even have a head yet. Some of the ones with the head have that cloudy & amber color. The bud still looks like its growing in weight and i still see hairs that are white.

It doesnt look done to me. but the amber crystals tell me otherwise, and 65 days going on the flower. should i wait and see what happends?
 
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Looks kinda like 7-10 more days.. But it's hard 2 tell in the pic.. I would have 2 see with my kind Scope
 
j wizzle

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not a chance....that bud has at least 2-3 weeks left. the hairs arent even receeding into the calyx completely yet.


trich color is the least accurate way to tell if your buds are done.


pinch the nugs, im willing to bet they are still fluffy too....when the hairs are in the calyx and the buds feel solid, the bud is done. you dont even need to look at the trichs, thats all hype created by someone in high times or something. look at the buds as a whole, not at individual parts.


if your buds arent rock hard, they arent done yet...
 
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not a chance....that bud has at least 2-3 weeks left. the hairs arent even receeding into the calyx completely yet.


trich color is the least accurate way to tell if your buds are done.


pinch the nugs, im willing to bet they are still fluffy too....when the hairs are in the calyx and the buds feel solid, the bud is done. you dont even need to look at the trichs, thats all hype created by someone in high times or something. look at the buds as a whole, not at individual parts.


if your buds arent rock hard, they arent done yet...

I have read quite a lot about determining when mj is ready for harvest but what you stated I have never heard before. I don't think I've ever heard of your patented "pinch method". I think I will stay with advice from guys like DJ Short and the other big breeders who state that trichome coloring is THE best way to identify that 5-7 window period for bud-ripening.
 
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Yeah for sure dude. Keep an eye on the calyxes. Watch them swell up and devour half of the pistol. As she matures the pistols will dry and shrivle so to speak. The most accurate way to tell if she is mature is with a macro scope atleast a 60x to 100x. during the development of the trichome itself, it will be transarent or clear. as your calyxes swell, pistols color, begin checking trichomes as some are now milky white in color. as the overripen they take up an amber appearance. Some folkslet their plants mature til they see 25% amber trichomes. 8-10% for me. The rest white with a few transperant stragglers. Get a scope dude. Youll even get good enough to manipulate each plants buzz to your liking as you gain experience! hope his helps.Oh, I agree with TortureKill and the rest of the boys. 2-3 weeks bro. She looks nice.

Boy the just throw the term "Senoir Farmer around too loosley. J Wizzle, checkout one of these scopes bro. Look at ur trich"s and watch em develop. Change color and shit. There's a reason the "hype" got so big. You can watch them mature and KNOW!!
 
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I agree that I would not choose color of trics over a few other signs. I watch the colors as they change. Most times I harvest my heads are rarely amber. For me I want to burn a full flavorful spliff with a good high. Going past this point might give you more weight but a dirtier high.By that I do not mean an up high,but cleaner. JK
 
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I have read quite a lot about determining when mj is ready for harvest but what you stated I have never heard before. I don't think I've ever heard of your patented "pinch method".


wow....did i say to PINCH the buds and then you can tell if they are done or not?? dont believe i did. i simply said, pinch the buds, I CAN GUARANTEE THAT BUD IS FLUFFY, just look at it.

are you telling me you would pick a fluffy bud just because it has 50% amber trichs? you sir are a fool if you do that.


look at jalisco kid, this guy knows a thing or two as well...also says trichs arent the best way to tell if your buds are done. its an imcomplete way to tell if your plants are ready. there are 5 other things to look at too....they all combine to get your answer


how ridiculous is it to pull from trichs when they change colors on different parts of the plants at different times??? the buds on the top will be cloudy, almost amber, yet the buds on the bottom are completely clear. you wait til the entire plant is done before you harvest, so top buds are going to be 60% amber while the rest of the plant is going to be around 30-40% amber. you will have a great high and a better yield.


keep talking shit, tell this guy to pull his buds early...go ahead and give bad advice.


look around at dispensaries...the majority of bud is garbage, there is a reason for it. its because the majority isnt always correct.

AND yeah, theres a reason this "trich" thing is picking up in popularity...morons keep spreading the news because they dont have a clue.


as in everything in life, there is a bigger picture and a smaller picture....you guys keep looking at the smaller picture, ill keep my eye on the big picture
 
j wizzle

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Oh, I agree with TortureKill and the rest of the boys. 2-3 weeks bro. She looks nice.

Boy the just throw the term "Senoir Farmer around too loosley. J Wizzle, checkout one of these scopes bro. Look at ur trich"s and watch em develop. Change color and shit. There's a reason the "hype" got so big. You can watch them mature and KNOW!!



hey...why dont you look up there and notice the ONE SINGLE person who also said 2-3 weeks..


oh yeah, that was me....keep talking shit like you know better than i do, yet you said the EXACT same thing that i said. good job....



guess what, i can watch them mature and know as well, only thing is ive grown enough that i dont need a fucking $20 scope to tell me when the plants are done....
 
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this is when you guys must harvest.....


When Cannabis is grown for sinsemilla floral production, the cycle is interrupted. Pistillate plants remain unfertilized and begin to produce capitate -stalked trichomes and accumulate resins in a last effort to remain viable. Since capitate-stalked trichomes now predominate, resin and THC production increase. The elevated resin heads appear clear, since fresh resin is still being secreted, often being produced in the cellular head of the trichome. At this time THC acid production is at a peak and CBD acid levels remain stable as the molecules are rapidly converted to THC acids, THC acid synthesis has not been active long enough for a high level of CBN acid to build up from the degradation of THC acid by light and heat. Terpene production is also nearing a peak and the floral clusters are beautifully aromatic. Many cultivators prefer to pick some of their strains during this stage in order to produce marijuana with a clear, cerebral, psychoactive effect. It is believed that, in peak floral clusters, the low levels of CBD and CBN allow the high level of THC to act without their sedative effects. Also, little polymerization of resins has occurred, so aromas and tastes are often less resinous and tar like than at later stages. Many strains, if they are harvested in the peak floral stage, lack the completely developed aroma, taste and psychoactive level that appear after curing. Cultivators wait longer for the resins to mature if a different taste and psychoactive effect is desired.





see that part in the bold...maybe you guys like smoking uncured bud, so you want that "early finish" look & taste, thats not me. i want a complex high that will last for hours.


thats what you get when you harvest at 8-10% amber trichs...nice


http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbotany-removed/marijuanabotany4.html

read this....i have a scope, ive used it before. seemed like a waste of time when all you have to do is look at the calyx to be able to tell if the buds are done or not.
 
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Late floral clusters exhibit the full potential of resin production, aromatic principles, and psychoactive effect. Complex mixtures of many mon oterpene and sesquiterpene hydrocarbons along with alcohols, ethers, esters, and ketones determine the aroma and flavor of mature Cannabis. The levels of the basic terpenes and their polymerized by-products fluctuate as the resin ripens. The aromas of fresh floral clusters are usually preserved after drying, as by the late floral stage, a high proportion of ripe resins are present on the mature calyxes of the fresh plant. Cannabinoid production favors high THC acid and rising CBN acid content at this stage, since most active biosynthesis has ceased and more THC acid is being broken down into CBN acid than is being produced from CBD acid. CBD acid may accumulate because not enough energy is available to complete its conversion to THC acid. The THC-to-CBD ratio in the harvested floral clusters certainly begins to drop as biosynthesis slows, because THC acid levels decrease as it decom poses, and at the same time CBD acid levels remain or rise intact since CBD does not decompose as rapidly as THC acid. This tends to produce marijuana characterized by more somatic and sedative effects. Some cultivators prefer this to the more cerebral and clear psychoactivity of the peak floral stage.





i like a high CBD-thc ratio. i think that helps the psychoactive effects last longer.




i guess i just picked all this shit out of my ass.... you want amber trichs to get the FULL COMPLEX high you desire. maybe you like that "clear" high...the one where you cant really tell if youre high or not. thats not me either.

its really up to you when you pick your plants. its really funny when you talk shit, yet agree with me that the plant has 2-3 weeks to go. keep wasting your time with that scope fellas...


pull those buds at 60 days everyone, cuz you are all rocking those "8 week strains" right....lol
 
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i like a high CBD-thc ratio. i think that helps the psychoactive effects last longer.

Me too, but too much CDB will just give headache.
 
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guess what, my "senior farmer" ass can grow some dank....none of these plants are ready for the chop. they all have a good 2 weeks, maybe more....yet these are the types of plants some of you guys will chop because you read something in a high times magazine....


ever think that the trichs on the interior of the buds are probably not done at the same time as the exterior trichs? this is due to the lack of direct sunlight. so think about it, youre all chopping at 8-10% amber trichs when in reality, the interior trichs are probably all still clear.....ever think of that one?


and explain to me exactly how high times can determine that using a scope is the perfect way to check ripeness of a bud when they cant even determine what is the exact cause of your high???

you look at the plant as a whole, the sooner you figure that out, the sooner you can get rid of those scopes. i know guys doing hundereds of pounds a year, you think they are out there looking at their plants with scopes to determine if they are ready or not??? lol
 
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