The Evolving Act Project

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And in case any of you are wondering why we would go to all this trouble????

Note: These shots were taken at only 32 days into flower.....it is suppose to be a 8 to 10 week strain according to the breeder. The fastest way to stinky gooey dripping nastiness of wonderfulness......is a good ACT Tea IMHO.

No additives AT ALL were used on these plants, just a base nutrient and the additional of a ACT tea on a weekly basis from start to end.

One thing most noticed and right away from adding tea was shortened flowering times, more resin/crystal production, larger flowers, and the complexity of the aromas is multiplied ten fold......this is usually only achieved by organic growing methods in soil, but with a tea, you can easily achieve and even surpass this same level of quality in hydroponics and water culture systems especially.

And another benefit from tea is that your plants will need LESS nutrients and can especially enhance the performance of ANY flowering booster.......or even better, eliminate the need for a flowering booster completely which some can have toxins in it like Paclo and the likes.....nature will beat the shit out of ANY of that stuff.....extensive testing was done using a tea up against products like Snow Storm Ultra, Koolbloom, MOAB, Top Booster, Big Bud, and several other products as well.
 
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And here we are transferred to the new setup.....added to the solution was 3 more gallons so we have a total of a 6.5 gallons of tea now.

Next the food and tea prep steps, as well as more on environment conditions, and pre-treating the water with ozone.

Note: You want to make sure and have some sort of lid to avoid splashing from the bubbles, and you also want to make sure if you do not have a lid, that you keep light away from your tea, and be sure and find a nice dark spot. Light will encourage the wrong type of growth.......such as algae, ect.

Note: If this batch were any further along, I would have not added 3 more gallons to the existing batch, but would have instead started a new batch. I will allow for extra brew time now to bring the new added biology in stasis time to catch up to the rest of the herd.....we will shorten this period down also since we are already under way with this new batch.

Several samples will now be taken over the next few hours to make sure the balance was not disturbed to drastically......and to get a new base reference point.

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You keep taking samples.
What's with that?

Ummm...I think you might have missed something then.....I would suggest you read the thread from the start as it explains that very clearly. If after reading the thread again, you still do not understand, please ask specific questions and I will try and explain better......
 
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More on some of the "theory" behind these experiments.

Temperature and "preparing" the water is possibly the two most important factors in the procedure. Every good herbalist and grower for example knows that the time of planting as well as harvesting is extremely important. Most of these relate to the process of making a tea as well.

But for many growers the thought that celestial bodies millions of miles from earth
can have any effect on terrestrial matter is absurd. Yet the forces or energies emitted by
our distant neighbors does indeed affect all earth matter.

So your asking what this has to do with brewing teas and making extracts from them?

The forces of nature are very sensitive to heat. They quickly break down in harvested plants at temperatures above 40 degrees C. Thus, by many products being concentrated (even under ultra-high vacuum) the most nutritious kernel or spark is destroyed. To preserve this spark the grower must use only mild temperatures in their operations, that is, if one is out to create a superior product.

We can learn to "apply" these methods and principals and adapt them to our work in making a tea, and then from it producing a very concentrated extract to be used as the final product.

A good analogy is to compare making an tea extract in the orthodox with the act of boiling an egg. You can for sure indeed eat and receive nutrition from a boiled egg. Though you will never be able to hatch a chicken from it.

Sterilizing water with ozone treatment for example would remind me of growing up and the dirt my mother would dig up out of the ground and bake in the oven before placing it into her plant pots. She told me this was done to sterilize the earth of any unwanted bacterial or insect life. Once done, the earth could be re-fertilized (reanimated) with the proper organic substances so the seed planted in it would grow properly. To the modern scientist this talk of life in water would seem to be nonsense.

To them, we must say that they are dealing with only an empty vehicle. A car cannot operate itself without the conscious direction of human will. Nor can a synthetic product engender its own kind.

When we start a tea with just the water, what we have is the dead body which we will now enlivened and shape by the intervention of a soul and spirit. This acquiring of cosmic spirit is not very hard to do but it does require precision. It all deals with the proper regulation of the heat. Diligence is needed in the special operation of animating the water we plan to use.

This is a very short description attempt of theory in regards to some of the steps in how the tea will "evolve" to the later stages and eventually end up being a concentrated extract for use.
 
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Thank you for sharing this thread :) . I have read it from "front to back" about 3 times now, just to make sure I didnt miss anything. Now, off to configure my vortex brewer...
 
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Gotta love the Vortex brewer.....I am pretty sure I could write a entire set of books on the vortex design and the "joys" of brewing teas with it.

I am thinking of starting a separate project similar to this one but using the vortex with a side by side brewing experiment but as I have attempted to write out the outline for the project, trying to get all the "variables" in order is impossible it seems.

I would really like to get a fair side by side going and make all things equal, except for the brewer type....one being a 5 gallon bucket with air stone and air pump plus bio-filter, and it sounds easy enough, but after I started getting into the details the project kept getting more complex and finally I gave up. It can be done, it will just take a good amount of work.....one day.

Anyhow current project is almost ready for the next evolution....in a few more weeks I should have a detailed update on the progress.

IN the meantime to keep the thread active I would like to discuss the "theory" behind the concepts in more detail, but I am afraid I will loose some of you......it is a bit much to grasp I will admit myself, and even after years now I still have to remind myself that there is sound science behind it. So I ask that you keep reading and with a open mind to new things.

As I have mentioned, if you start talking about a celestial body millions of miles away having an affect on terrestrial matter, you would be thought bonkers!!

But yet doesn't the sun's rays affect matter on earth by making plants grow and warming the planet? Giving you a suntan or sunburn even?

Is the sun not located millions of miles away from earth? It takes like 8 minutes and 29 seconds traveling at the speed of light for rays from the sun to get to earth....

The moon effects gravity and the tides of the oceans.......the moon is considered to be a "reflector" of the suns energies, and other planets and stars as well.

The Farmer's Almanac is used world wide and has been since the dawn of man......it is considered to be the "farmer's bible" to most.

I have done countless test showing that the moon phases and its position in space in relation to the earth will directly affect seed germination. This is the easiest way to see the moon at work affecting terrestrial matter here on earth.

You can improve seed germination by as much as 20% by planting during suggested times which is based on the phase of the moon.

Its the little stuff folks.....what would make a bigger bang, a large stack of dynamite or splitting an atom?? The atom is so small you can not even see it......we know now that the POWER is at the "nuclear" level......not the electron layer directly.

At the quantum level, things are the smallest that they can be and it gets really weird.....laws of physics no longer apply at the quantum level.....particles can exist in two places at the same time....they pop in and out of existence at random.....

Quantum theory states that the more you know about the SPEED of a particle, the less you can know about its POSITION and vice versa.....meaning the more you know about the position of the particle, the less you can know about its speed. Weird.

I will go into the theory and mechanics of the testing results when we get near the end of the experiment. I feel that to really understand why and how these methods work you need to understand the basic theory related to the "cause & effect" so to speak.

ANYONE can learn to harness and capture these subtle energies that deal with forces you can not see directly, but the "effect" is undeniable I assure you.

I have attached what I thought was one of the best documents and explanations on soil inoculation......it was completed by the University of Georgia which is a state that has one of the largest agricultural research centers on the planet.......great stuff and great read IMHO.
 
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I'm working on a simple DIY 15 gallon air lift vortex brewer. First prototype was a fail. Heading back to casa depot tomorrow for some revisions. Will post some photos when I get it working.

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How did i just stumble on this gold mine?? Bro... your killing it once again. I may build or probably buy a vortex now.

Quick question. How do you control your temperatures by a single degree? I have a 100 Gal aquarium heater but its not that percise. I keep my RO res at exactly 20 degrees Celsius. I know it should be slightly warmer for the teas, but could i get away with brewing at a constant 20 degrees Celsius and still achieve optimal results?
 
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Hey bro, yes, there are several methods you can use to control and manipulate the temperature. The easiest way is with using the assistance of room ambient temps, but that is not always feasible depending on your environment. So then you would need to use either a chiller and/or heater to manipulate and keep it steady.

The heater I use is from a aquarium for about 30 gallons of water, and I added a temp control inline to allow for precise control. You can get a temp control for cheap off of ebay.....or rob one from a existing device (like a broken vaporizer for example).

I can show the mod I did if needed.

In the post above I state that you need to control down to a single degree, and that is for optimal results, but the main thing to make sure of is that your temp changes are done SLOWLY. It is better to be off a few degrees than to try and jump the temp to where it is "suppose" to be.

Stay in range and you will be fine......

Be Well
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I am going to do a quick update here.....I noticed I did not post the recipe I used yet. I have been holding off because I do not want you guys to try and follow it exactly, and not explore other options.

In other words, I would have never discovered some of these methods if I had strictly followed someone else s recipe to the tee. It is ok to follow it and for sure use it as a guide, but please do not be afraid to experiment.

With that said, here I will list all the measurements as well as the "official" steps for a start up tea and also describe the next phase of the project. Our tea is evolving VERY nicely and at a fast pace. Almost to fast so we will slow things down a bit and also begin the preparation for the next steps.

Start with 3.5 gallons of RO filtered water if possible (ozone generator is used to pre-treat the water). If not use distilled. You can also alternatively boil the water from tap for 10 minutes, allow to cool and use. We want to sterilize the water we start with. The reason for this is so there is no competing biology already present in the water. We are going to fill the "empty" body of water with our biology..


Earth Syrup - 1 tablespoon per gallon
Hydro Rush - 1 teaspoon per gallon
Earth Kelp - 1 teaspoon per gallon
Azomite - 1/2 teaspoon per 2 gallons
Trinity - 1 teaspoon per gallon
Capulator's Tri Pack @ 1 teaspoon per gallon each

Start your air pump and prime the Bio-Filter and run for 18 hours.

The product HydroRush is a fairly new product. It is ultra clean and ph neutral and will provide a food source for the biology. This product also converts compounds to help create nitrogen fixing bacteria and helps them flourish.

The Earth Syrup is also a food for micro-biology.

You can use whatever you want for the most part and these products are not the only ones that will work well by any means. These are however some of the best we ever used.

Aurora makes a great organic line and we use the Trinity product as well as the Budah Grow for our organic compounds that will be added to the tea as we begin the concentration stages.......

Capulator's tri- pack provides the initial inoculation of species.

Pictured below you can see the tea is evolving very nicely and we have almost processed all the beginning organics that were added. You can see the bottom of the bucket now as the tea becomes more and more clear.

At this point I am taking a 200ml sample for testing and cultures......

We will also take a additional 200ml for our inoculation that will be added to the "Primer".

The "primer" is the container that is used to stage the process of inoculating your next batch in the process. I will detail this step in separate post as it is a bit detailed.

After our first primer is completed (matured) we will then mix and start the new evolved batch and continue brewing. This step will also be detailed in a separate post as well.

The next phase we will begin our concentration steps will purify the tea even further, and begin to concentrate the solution with the addition of our organic "filler" which will be the Budah Grow from Aurora.

This phase will include putting our bacteria and fungi to work processing the organic compounds in the grow formula we will add.

In this phase we will take our nice pure and clear evolved tea, and turn it back into the nasty black looking mess like when we first started.....by adding in the organic compounds from the Budah Grow formula.

We will also be adding kelp at this point as well. Another great option to help concentrate out tea is to start hanging worm casting and compost material in filter bags over the side of your container/tea brewer bucket.

This next phase will take about another 7 to 10 days of brew time. We will also begin adjusting the temp back up to around 72F to increase activity and get those guys hopping!!

We will keep concentrating our tea with organic additions and then allowing the biology to process the compounds until the tea begins to clear again....we will keep repeating this process over and over again to further evolve the tea.

And last but not least for this update I will briefly describe the next step....once we reach a certain concentration level and have completed several more "evolutions" with our tea, we will then begin to separate the biology into two distinct groups....

1. Aerobic

2. Anaerobic

As you know there are basically two types or groups of biology that we deal with in horticulture, one needing oxygen to survive, and the other not needing oxygen.

The steps involved in separating the biology will be detailed and discussed when we get a little further along........

Be Well
HR

Using the tea has caused the root mass to fill the entire 18 gallon bucket with a fat hairy ass root system from HELL!
 
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This is great. It's interesting. I've come to many of the same conclusions based in instinct rather than empirical data. I had pretty much concluded that the best way to a healthy rhizosphere is dynamic and diverse biology living in the soil. The best way to get that is to never brew the same way twice. All the factors you have outlined. . . Ingredient, amounts, dilution rates, brewing times, brewing temps, all have an impact. I never make the same brew twice, but the plants always love it!

I've considered a microscope, but I wouldn't know what I was looking at!

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I could not agree more! And it is very easy to learn how to identify what your looking at under the scope. The only hard part really is getting use to the scope your using, like focus, ect.

There are pictures you can use for reference to help identify the biology.

But I hope if nothing else, this thread will at least show people that there are BETTER ways to garden. For the past 10 plus years I have been testing every root inoculate known to man....nothing I have used has EVER even come close to producing what these tea's will produce......not even close!!

These tea's when used properly will put products like Roots Excel to SHAME!!

The other thing this has helped with is understanding how plant nutrition works. When you understand that, you will easily be able to spot BS from a product label.....no more will you EVER rely or waste money on some bottle with a cartoon label on the front.....promising the moon if you use it. You will do as I do, chuckle and laugh, and then put the bottle back on the shelf.....leaving your wallet right where it is, in your pocket.

Once I started really researching how most fertilizer are made, you will make a startling connection between the so called "fertilizer" world and the "pesticide" world.....there is a VERY fine line that is blurred now between a fertilizer and a pesticide.....most do not know the difference at all.

The other great benefit from using these Tea's is that the better you get at making them, the LESS you will use and need nutrients. The plants also use less water. If you want to achieve the best possible product and get what is known as "full genetic expression" from your plants, this is the way.

Be Well
HR
 
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The other great benefit from using these Tea's is that the better you get at making them, the LESS you will use and need nutrients. The plants also use less water. If you want to achieve the best possible product and get what is known as "full genetic expression" from your plants, this is the way.

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HR

Your affirmation is appreciated. This has been my experience as well. I used about 2 tsps of powdered nutes scratched into the top soil during flower, per plant. Everything else is in the tea.

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I should also add there is no such thing a 'finicky' plant when you take this approach.

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Thank you outwest for bringing up a most excellent point!!

One of the side effects of using a tea on a regular basis is that you will no longer have any need for pesticides or have bug problems....they can not compete with the bacteria and fungi that offer protection to the plants. It is like hiring a group of microscopic body guards for your plants...:)

The other thing it does is make the plant strong, which means it is more tolerable to temperature, humidity, and also dry conditions.......the plant can tolerate almost anything.

A once finicky strain will become very tolerable to adverse conditions and nutrition.

The most popular test done to prove this is to take two plants and put them in a soil or coco container (soil or coco needs to be sterilized, soil can be baked in the oven before use to kill the biology present) and make sure that they are the same size and same health. Give them both the same nutrition except only treat one of them with a tea. Make sure the other plant does not get any biology or inoculates added.

After at least 4 to 6 weeks of grow time, stop feeding and watering them both. Then watch.....you will see the plant that did not get any tea or biology added will die right away as soon as the roots dry out. The plant you did treat with the tea will stay alive with no water and no food added in the form of nutrients almost TWICE as long as the other plant before it dies.
 
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Was looking for something on you tube and found this video on water filter reviews.....pretty interesting.

 
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Great post! i dont consume RO water, but i had no idea what the negative affects were! not only am investing in a Vortex brewer, but it looks like now i will be investing in a Berkey water filtration system! This is turning out to be an expensive thread lol! Thanks again for sharing your input and knowledge! it seems for every question i ask, 10 more follow....
 
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