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  1. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Silicone is a good polymer. Def respectable Choice! You'll need additives to give it more tensile strength AND microwave sensing molecules to ensure it can be microwave sterilizable. I'd also recommend a GAP w/ elliptical outer shape to ensure it sterilizes quickly with a quick dunk for those...
  2. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    http://www.watereducationalliance.org/keyinfo.asp This is a good article about water treatment for plants.
  3. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    FooDoo, post: Another follow up email from HTH "Calcium hydorxide is a by-product when granular chlorine is added to water and raises the pH of the water over time. The range of pH of Calcium Hypochlorite in 1% solution is 8.5 to 11...At a pH of 8.5 there is only a 9% presence of the HOCI...
  4. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Why you gotta hate on my bagel making days! ...those were good times!
  5. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Sounds like th HTH rep is likely a BS in chem who's statements all mirrored mine. Granular pool shock is hypochlorite unless pH adjust to 6.0. What i said earlier on, i recommended a buffer and adjusting your rez bc the maintenance of HClo depends on pH. I also said that's a lot of work and...
  6. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    You seem angry. I guess i was offensive
  7. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    ok, so instead of trying to hurt my ego (which you're not; nor relavent) write the the recipe out for your peers and let's move on. Because the PermaClone's manual is NOT going to 1. Say they're the same molecule OR 2. Recommend to the general public the recipe you mentioned above playing w pool...
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    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    and how will you buffer the pH? ..bc just a little hcl will drop below 5 quick, and then You'll add pool shock causing it tow rise. You can do it, but it's gonna be a dance. Buffering will be key. I dob't know the envientory of pool supply stores (missed that course in undergrad) but I susoect...
  9. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    We're not talking about me making it, we're talking about me recommending to the general public) that: 1. hypochlorous acid is hypochlorite (it's not). 2. That I should somehow recommend how to make it using reagents not found at the hydro store. You'd need a hypochlorous acid generator OR...
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    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    I have a great illustration that should stick for everyone: You saying hypochlorous acid is like hypochlorite is like someone saying cocaine is the same as crack. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_base Conjugate acid/base chemistry.
  11. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    ....sorry, my point stands. Hypochlorius acid is 10x - 100x more effective than hypochlorite and pool shock yields hypochlorite upon addition to water.
  12. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    If you follow the recipes for making hypochlorous acid by adding x grams of pool shock to water (as all the forums suggest) you will not be able to use the same dosages found on the back of that bottle.
  13. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Hypochlorite is not hypochlorous acid w/o protonation by buffering the pH.
  14. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    BAMN! This dude lays it out nicely! So pH adjustment is key to protinate the ClO- to HClO I still say an easier method is to hit the 4 ppm for water treatment and 0.5 - 2 ppm boost to surface sterilize clones once they're all in place with the hypochlorite. I like our creation in this...
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    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Those are cool. definitely not reusable, though ir ecological. Still, really smart product over all. If you clone 5x a year, you'll soend 12.85 over 5 years on coco colars (PermaClone last at least 5 years w a warranty to back it at 2.99 each) If you clone every two weeks, like me, those...
  16. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    You have to view the ionic species as dancing around in solution with a certain probably of being conjugated based on interaction. It's almost statistics. The more free hydrogen ion, the more likely ClO- will be dancing w/ H+. As you lower the pH you're increase H+ and therefore increasing the...
  17. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Based on reading the difference sources, it sounds like to have the H+ conjugated to ClO- to form HClO ..you have to have the pH below the pKa of HClO and other positively charged ion (Na+, K+, Ca2+) all affect this formation. HTH's response "short answer, yes" he's saying yeah...there will be...
  18. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    The cation (H+, Na+, Ca2+) dance with the anion (HClO-) based on established values called dissociation constants. When you get different ion in the equation, the equilibrium changes. So there would be differences between the different salt and the situation gets more complicated with more...
  19. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    5 years I can promise, we may have a good recipe for lower chlorine treatment soon, though. 75% hypochlorous at neutral is good. Gotta find out what pH it mixes at, though. And double check pKa calculation. It's been fun! Thansk for being bold and questioning everything--so key!
  20. PermaClone

    EZ Cloner Collars - is there a re-usable option?

    Might piss iff Clear Rez, watermax and UC roots ...but my article are read by only like 100/month jist for my followers
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