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100% Forest Soil Vs 100% Cow Manure

So far only forest has popped beans, these seedlings are 48 hrs old
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100% Forest Soil Vs 100% Cow Manure

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#22
I am loving this thread. I also live in the forest and love to put local forest product into my holes. Dirt from under where mushrooms grow, insect poop from decaying tress, tree compost that is 25-30 years breaking down naturally, little pockets of forest top soil years in the making...somehow the thought of growing my personal smoke from my own unique forest blend of organics is exciting.
@GrowingGreen have you made home made bio char? Easy, great way to use small diameter branches from the forest and incorporate nutrient charged charcoal into your soil...good stuff!
Have fun!
 
#23
BudBogart said:
I am loving this thread. I also live in the forest and love to put local forest product into my holes. Dirt from under where mushrooms grow, insect poop from decaying tress, tree compost that is 25-30 years breaking down naturally, little pockets of forest top soil years in the making...somehow the thought of growing my personal smoke from my own unique forest blend of organics is exciting.
@GrowingGreen have you made home made bio char? Easy, great way to use small diameter branches from the forest and incorporate nutrient charged charcoal into your soil...good stuff!
Have fun!
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Havent made bio char but if you have recipe for it I'll try it, im licking up more soil on friday , i also grabbed a giant trash bag full of sticks & branches to mulch these, theres a pic of it on the first page
 
#24
Well, I took branches that came from an oak tree, but you can use almost any carbon based material. I chose to use sticks about the diameter of my finger.
Took a small (3 gal) metal garbage pail with a tight fitting lid ( doesn't have to be air tight, but close as you can get.). Drilled 3 or 4 1/4 inch holes in the lid. Tightly filled the can with pieces of oak. Put can right on hot camp fire. First I saw steam coming from the holes ( and lid). After some time the steam is replaced with the gases that are in the wood. You hear these gases blowing out of the holes. Often, these gases will catch fire as they are escaping the can which is fun to watch and let's you know it's working.
Now all this escaping steam and gases have prevented any air from entering the can, a good thing. Once the gases have burned/browned off remove the can and cover the holes with dirt, etc. to keep air from entering the can as it cools.
You now have biochar. Crush it up ( not so much fun) and soak it in your favorite nute mix ( so it doesn't pull nutes from soil),
Ready to mix into your soil and lasts eons.
Lots on biochar on u tube.
 
#25
BudBogart said:
Well, I took branches that came from an oak tree, but you can use almost any carbon based material. I chose to use sticks about the diameter of my finger.
Took a small (3 gal) metal garbage pail with a tight fitting lid ( doesn't have to be air tight, but close as you can get.). Drilled 3 or 4 1/4 inch holes in the lid. Tightly filled the can with pieces of oak. Put can right on hot camp fire. First I saw steam coming from the holes ( and lid). After some time the steam is replaced with the gases that are in the wood. You hear these gases blowing out of the holes. Often, these gases will catch fire as they are escaping the can which is fun to watch and let's you know it's working.
Now all this escaping steam and gases have prevented any air from entering the can, a good thing. Once the gases have burned/browned off remove the can and cover the holes with dirt, etc. to keep air from entering the can as it cools.
You now have biochar. Crush it up ( not so much fun) and soak it in your favorite nute mix ( so it doesn't pull nutes from soil),
Ready to mix into your soil and lasts eons.
Lots on biochar on u tube.
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Coo got it plenty of oaks up here! Thanks BB
 
#26
The beans in forest are doing swell
I was hopin for the maure beans to pop, i recovered a white blaze seed from manure! I dropped it in some forest soil
 

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#31
BudBogart said:
I am loving this thread. I also live in the forest and love to put local forest product into my holes. Dirt from under where mushrooms grow, insect poop from decaying tress, tree compost that is 25-30 years breaking down naturally, little pockets of forest top soil years in the making...somehow the thought of growing my personal smoke from my own unique forest blend of organics is exciting.
@GrowingGreen have you made home made bio char? Easy, great way to use small diameter branches from the forest and incorporate nutrient charged charcoal into your soil...good stuff!
Have fun!
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Ur really " goin out on a limb" haha
 
#32
G gnome said:
Ur really " goin out on a limb" haha
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LOL.. He has passion for his soil for sure.. As much as I giggle by his explanation; I applaud someone with that much passion because I can relate with most things to do with growing or soil micro-biology. :D

Great start on them @GrowingGreen . =) Will be a fun thread to follow along for sure and that Root Better is going to make your roots explode and much better nutrient uptake.
 
#35
You were not kidding that shit must of came right out of the Cows ass , Did you tie a pail on cows tail ??? lol
Years back out in the farm i put seeds in a old dried up cow pie what i did was dug a foot hole in ground made soil loose .. then placed dried up cow manure watered it dropped seeds covered it an re applied water and walked away , forgot all about it .. was end of Oct where i was cleaning up getting ready for winter ,, walked behind barn only to see this 12 - 13 foot tall plant with rock hard buds :) was like Fuck yeah
 
#36
Unfortunately ended up 1 fem white blaze & 1 fem golden ticket both went into flower quickly now they look like retards between veg& bloom i take pick later, cow shit didnt pan out, forest soil worked decent
 
#37
i still think the cow shit works,,thing about cow shit,,and believe me when i say got experience,,but thing is ,it compacts quick,,cant allow to completly dry out or you wind up with rock shit,,lmao,,really keeping it broke up is a chore by itself,,what do you think about this,,grind it up to almost a powder,,add about 40% perlite along with more of a wood base mixed in ,hay,straw,pine needles,wood that will crush under you feet like humus,,with feeds ,feed yucca with your food..ive seen folk grow great herb in it,,just a bite more complex to keep it,from packing up
 
#38
oldskol4evr said:
i still think the cow shit works,,thing about cow shit,,and believe me when i say got experience,,but thing is ,it compacts quick,,cant allow to completly dry out or you wind up with rock shit,,lmao,,really keeping it broke up is a chore by itself,,what do you think about this,,grind it up to almost a powder,,add about 40% perlite along with more of a wood base mixed in ,hay,straw,pine needles,wood that will crush under you feet like humus,,with feeds ,feed yucca with your food..ive seen folk grow great herb in it,,just a bite more complex to keep it,from packing up
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Thats a good idea, i have the same stuff in the backyard mixed with old soil, rock dust, some EWC ! I'll add some perlite to it too, gonna hit eco & moto bout adding bio-media balance to the soil
@Ecompost , @Moto
 
#39
GrowingGreen said:
Thats a good idea, i have the same stuff in the backyard mixed with old soil, rock dust, some EWC ! I'll add some perlite to it too, gonna hit eco & moto bout adding bio-media balance to the soil
@Ecompost , @Moto
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well ive used it for years bro,,it always compacts like freaking rocks adding sticks ,needles,wood chips at least keep it to the point that if it does ball up it still gets feed to the roots,,instead of big ass clots ,you have smaller ones,,grind it up and add some of these things,it will help
 
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oldskol4evr said:
well ive used it for years bro,,it always compacts like freaking rocks adding sticks ,needles,wood chips at least keep it to the point that if it does ball up it still gets feed to the roots,,instead of big ass clots ,you have smaller ones,,grind it up and add some of these things,it will help
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morning brother,,i forget this most times because i dont sleep much,lmao
 
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