Carl Sagan
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SAGE-LIKE ADVICE, MY DUDE
I would recommend copying someone's proven successful formula and then seeing how your cultivar responds in your environment. Then tweak values from there.
But whatever you do, copy JK or Yosemite Sam or Cap or Crysmatic or something first for nute values/ratios.
yeah, def running a different mix for veg. I was reading a lot of people talkin' about running 150-175 ppm K for 100% coco for flower.
thanks for tha review! might have to play follow the leader and use 3g of jack's and tweak everything around that. hoards of previous users cannot be wrong..
So I just need to double check myself, oregon's department of ag is a great resource but when it lists the non plant food ingredients, it doesn't contain anything but what there is a percentage of under. So in this example, no IBA/NAA etc but .01% of B1, correct?
I've been wondering the same thing, seems like the OR database suddenly has more detailed entries for many products which were updated just this month. Lots of older missing/possibly-incorrect data there too, so def not a comprehensive resource by any means. Also, i have yet to find certain ingredients there at all (like triacontanol, but not even certain of any products that claim it).So I just need to double check myself, oregon's department of ag is a great resource but when it lists the non plant food ingredients, it doesn't contain anything but what there is a percentage of under. So in this example, no IBA/NAA etc but .01% of B1, correct?
I did not take the time to read in here much or to know how that formula is that uses 250ppm of mag but I would bet I could taste the dif of that herb and mine . JKstill keeping Ca at 120? Seems like some nute companies like to believe we can pump up the Ca, how high do you suppose we could take it? Would Mg have to come along?
I've got a friend claiming using Mg at rates of 250ppm...that seems a little outrageous...
I pushed the Mg when I was using CNS-17, there was definitely a point of too much. Don't think I would mess with that high of Mg either.I did not take the time to read in here much or to know how that formula is that uses 250ppm of mag but I would bet I could taste the dif of that herb and mine . JK
Some salts impart/change the flavor, Magnesium is one of them. Are you adding that much ppm to maintain a ratio or because your plants tell you to. If they are yellowing up as in a def you might try foliar spraying them. Maybe your having a customs problem at the roots, not letting enough through.I pushed the Mg when I was using CNS-17, there was definitely a point of too much. Don't think I would mess with that high of Mg either.
Some have recommended a 4:2:1 K:Ca:Mg ratio, in my particular case it seemed to be appropriate, and work out well. Though I suspect the Ca:Mg ratio can vary a bit without serious consequences.
I have experienced the flavor change of too much Mg myself.
I started out with the 60 ppms of Mg scaled to the formula, but they showed lack. I wondered if there was an uptake issue possibly. That and the chow I have uses 25% coco, I believe that sequesters a certain portion of the Mg. That and my plant has OG heritage, so far as I have seen that is a common trait (OGs being Mg hogs)
So I had to go to 73.5 ppms Mg or theeabouts instead of 60.
Foliar was not practical this run for a few reasons, too busy to get into that. Want to foliar more personally.
Too much K will affect Mg uptake also. also talk now of the myth of K. perhaps a lot less K will be beneficial? Just like a lot less P.
did some reading the other day and also found out that N is probably more beneficial to root growth than P.
Did you know that there is like 5ppm of available P in soils, due to the fact the soil holds most of it and will not release it in the solution. also lots of K being held in coco. Just some food for thought.
That and Lost's seal or walrus memes a couple years ago that was funny as shit.
"No you can't have my bukkits!" fuck I laughed hard that day.
I don't remember, it was years ago, I think he was drinking that night.what thread?
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