Thatoneguyyouknow_ said:

it wasnt mine, the seed for those were grown by a coimmercial friend of mine in kansas city. she had the afghani land race from seedsman too, so she hit a female fire hair with the afghani land race pollen.

those brick beans made tall skinny plants that didnt branch out a whole lot, one long main cola covered in red firey hairs that only pulled in and swelled if pollenated, made HUGE beans when it did though.

As far as i understand it, the endlessly drifting hybrid phenos this created WAS the first true skunk lmao. You pick your lady and run from clones. Or you breed with it lol. Im not pontificating here though, im totally open to better information then my own lol. Her logic, was that the best way to find those original skunks, was to recreate the original F1 and hunt the phenos herself plant by plant. Couldnt tell ya how it went though, i have since lost contact info and she doesnt seem to be on social media by her real name.

The further from inbreeding you get, imho, the skunkier the plants get.

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That's really cool, appreciate you sharing this story. That's what a lot of people have done in the past 20 years or so. They've hunted landraces but have still come up short. I think she is right in hunting landraces though. Mazar x Columbian, then selfed, then crossed with Acapulco Gold is the recipe for the original skunk.

Thatoneguyyouknow_ said:

Im sorry, the skunk discussion is one of my favorites now a days.

you betchur britches if i get some kind of true "omgwtf" caliber skunk plant, that clone is going to stick around for a very long time. And it will be given to anyone who wants it for free lmao. So will any seed i make from it. Pollen too etc, should i be able to create some worth preserving.

My peaceblasters in veg out there already smell from a bout 10 feet away, in veg, like a skunk the next road over got a dog or something lmao. Musty raunchiness. Its the best kinda stink there is. If i brush a stem or the leaf margins the smell is on my skin for a bit. It gets on my clothes lmao. My other plants smell good so far. But mostly just like vegging cannabis plants. But thats not i lineage i ever expected to skunk out. It just kinda did at the most recent generation in smell taste and appearance all tbh. I dont consider it a skunk. Personally, but it kinda sorta is for some reason or another. But i did cross a multi generational F1 plant with the columbian land race. I can def see how i landed at skunky plants. And it does have the afghani land race a couple gens back too actually.

I really do think that the further you get away from generational inbreeding with a diverse genetic background, the skunkier the plants get. At one end of the cannabis genetic spectrum you have homogenous land races, and at the other, you have skunks.... or something like that

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No need to be sorry. There's a lot of us who love the Skunk discussion. All the old threads from Sam Skunkman & Madjag are super informative and it's the real history. Plus I love hearing everybody's personal stories of their encounters with the skunk. It really brings us back to the roots of this whole cannabis movement.

I'm pretty much at that point now with wanting to preserve the skunk genetics first and foremost, which is why I feel crossing it would only lose the genetics. I'd much prefer the clones to be available, not seeds. But I know it's easier for most people to obtain seeds.

Sounds like you have some good breeding projects going. It's a good sign to hear that your plants are stinking like that in veg or if you rub against them. I have 2 skunk strains that do the same, so it's reassuring that I'm on the right path.

I just grabbed some landraces to hunt and recreate the skunk lineage, but it was definitely the variety from different strains around the world that made the skunk.

Idk if you've seen the other thread on here but many people have been hunting for the skunk and we're making some headway:

The Breeders Lab Road Kill Skunk - Ester Alcohols, Train-wreck and the Catpiss Connection

Infusd said:

That's really cool, appreciate you sharing this story. That's what a lot of people have done in the past 20 years or so. They've hunted landraces but have still come up short. I think she is right in hunting landraces though. Mazar x Columbian, then selfed, then crossed with Acapulco Gold is the recipe for the original skunk.

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See, i was informed at some point/under the impression the first skunks were afghani land race pollen hitting the mexican fire hair sativa landrace, and those late 70s kings of the grow game were mostly created by interbreeding the results of that cross.

The years keep on going by though, and i couldnt even tell you where that information was originally sourced at this point. Was my understanding when tammy made this breed stock and called it mexi skunk too. So ive always assumed it was her understanding as well. At the time the skunk think wasnt a big pursuit in my growing world personally, i just graciously excepted a seed when offered. thats why the seed sat for so long. This generation of outdoor peaceblaster is really what had me wanting to pop it lol.

Preserving plants like this has become a pretty imperative thing for me as well, regardless of my understanding of them lmao.

isnt mazar itself a skunk cross though?


Edit: yea, Mazar is skunk #1 x afghani according to googling anyway, prob some modern recreation but idk. I rarely research this kind of thing online because of the conflicting information, i roll with the information and experience of growers ive met in person mainly when it comes to oldschool growing information.

I genuinely dont know if i know what im talking about or not here, essentially. All i know is personally, my peaceblaster lineage gives me the closest plants to those descriptions of the old skunks ive personally grown to date. Even more so then seeds that were supposed to be the very plants. But i wasnt around smoking back then either, and im sure someone who is familiar and was actually smoking a lot of the stuff back then, could tell me exactly where these plants aren't like those old skunks on first smell, feel, and toke.

Thatoneguyyouknow_ said:

isnt mazar itself a skunk cross though?


Edit: yea, Mazar is skunk #1 x afghani according to googling anyway, prob some modern recreation but idk. I rarely research this kind of thing online because of the conflicting information, i roll with the information and experience of growers ive met in person mainly when it comes to oldschool growing information.

I genuinely dont know if i know what im talking about or not here, essentially. All i know is personally, my peaceblaster lineage gives me the closest plants to those descriptions of the old skunks ive personally grown to date. Even more so then seeds that were supposed to be the very plants. But i wasnt around smoking back then either, and im sure someone who is familiar and was actually smoking a lot of the stuff back then, could tell me exactly where these plants aren't like those old skunks on first smell, feel, and toke.

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True MAZAR, is a Land Based Original, and has 0 Skunk 1 in it. Mazar, comes from Mazar i Shariff, in Afghanistan. Nevil, went personally to Afghanistan, during the war, and brought the seeds back. Its true though, many crossed Sk1, into Mazar.
Also. We grew the Skunk from 1978-1984, until my buddy got ratted out, and the cops got it.

The Skunk, came from a very well known breeder, in Meigs County Ohio. Keith William AKA "NOODLES" Hays.
He passed in 2020, at St Mary's Med Center, in Huntington, Wv.
He was the Originator, of Meigs county Gold, and Willie Nelson, was a frequent visitor, in the 70s-80s.
I didnt know Noodles, but my buddy did, and met him at a James Gang concert, in Charleston Wv. My buddies band, was an opening act, for James Gang.
Noodles gave my buddy the first Indica, we ever heard of, in 1973.

Noodles said, the SKUNK he had, was a cross of Kerela, and an unnamed Indica. And my buddy was adamant, that Noodles, told him, it had Kerala in it.
Noodles would be almost 80 years old, and started collecting seeds, in the 60s.
Meigs, in the 70s-80s, was known as the Humboldt County, of the East.
Noodles Son, is a member of RIU, but never comes there. He registered one time, to set some facts straight., about his dad, and his weed.
Noodles got ratted out, in the mid/late 90s, and went to Federal Prison, for 8 years. I also find it curious, that SKUNK, for all intents, and purposes, started to dry up, in the mid/late 90s, and it happened, at the same time, NOODLES, got popped.

Jmaes Mabley said:

Jmaes Mabley said:

True MAZAR, is a Land Based Original, and has 0 Skunk 1 in it. Mazar, comes from Mazar i Shariff, in Afghanistan. Nevil, went personally to Afghanistan, during the war, and brought the seeds back. Its true though, many crossed Sk1, into Mazar.
Also. We grew the Skunk from 1978-1984, until my buddy got ratted out, and the cops got it.

The Skunk, came from a very well known breeder, in Meigs County Ohio. Keith William AKA "NOODLES" Hays.
He passed in 2020, at St Mary's Med Center, in Huntington, Wv.
He was the Originator, of Meigs county Gold, and Willie Nelson, was a frequent visitor, in the 70s-80s.
I didnt know Noodles, but my buddy did, and met him at a James Gang concert, in Charleston Wv. My buddies band, was an opening act, for James Gang.
Noodles gave my buddy the first Indica, we ever heard of, in 1973.

Noodles said, the SKUNK he had, was a cross of Kerela, and an unnamed Indica. And my buddy was adamant, that Noodles, told him, it had Kerala in it.
Noodles would be almost 80 years old, and started collecting seeds, in the 60s.
Meigs, in the 70s-80s, was known as the Humboldt County, of the East.
Noodles Son, is a member of RIU, but never comes there. He registered one time, to set some facts straight., about his dad, and his weed.
Noodles got ratted out, in the mid/late 90s, and went to Federal Prison, for 8 years. I also find it curious, that SKUNK, for all intents, and purposes, started to dry up, in the mid/late 90s, and it happened, at the same time, NOODLES, got popped.

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I will also add. This strain was HEAVILY SATIVA DOMINANT, and would get huge outside, if given the chance. It was also fairly late in our region. Late October.

Jmaes Mabley said:

True MAZAR, is a Land Based Original, and has 0 Skunk 1 in it. Mazar, comes from Mazar i Shariff, in Afghanistan. Nevil, went personally to Afghanistan, during the war, and brought the seeds back. Its true though, many crossed Sk1, into Mazar.
Also. We grew the Skunk from 1978-1984, until my buddy got ratted out, and the cops got it.

The Skunk, came from a very well known breeder, in Meigs County Ohio. Keith William AKA "NOODLES" Hays.
He passed in 2020, at St Mary's Med Center, in Huntington, Wv.
He was the Originator, of Meigs county Gold, and Willie Nelson, was a frequent visitor, in the 70s-80s.
I didnt know Noodles, but my buddy did, and met him at a James Gang concert, in Charleston Wv. My buddies band, was an opening act, for James Gang.
Noodles gave my buddy the first Indica, we ever heard of, in 1973.

Noodles said, the SKUNK he had, was a cross of Kerela, and an unnamed Indica. And my buddy was adamant, that Noodles, told him, it had Kerala in it.
Noodles would be almost 80 years old, and started collecting seeds, in the 60s.
Meigs, in the 70s-80s, was known as the Humboldt County, of the East.
Noodles Son, is a member of RIU, but never comes there. He registered one time, to set some facts straight., about his dad, and his weed.
Noodles got ratted out, in the mid/late 90s, and went to Federal Prison, for 8 years. I also find it curious, that SKUNK, for all intents, and purposes, started to dry up, in the mid/late 90s, and it happened, at the same time, NOODLES, got popped.

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Thank you for the schooling here, genuinely

I actually believe i have heard of some grower called Noodles in the past. I knew an old head mixing/mastering engineer that owned a grow complex (entire apartment) in a place not far from kansas city. Probably from him. Had 91 chem dog mothers, the original afghani brought back, and a lot of legends. Was a seed collector. Was in his 60s or 70s for sure, this was 7 or 8 years ago, mayble closer to 10. He let his wildly overgrown clone mothers catch fire from his hps bulbs and it burned his entire complex down several years ago, lost all his plants, his studio, everything but his bike. He crashed his bike not long after and kicked the bucket. RIP.

He had given me seeds he made with his 91 chem. Said it was the same one Snoop was all about. I dont remember what they were crossed with but i thinnk the original master kush. I lost those seeds somehow in the move back to TN. But i had several people helping me that i probably shouldnt have. And i can easily see someone snatching a ziplock that reads "snoops chem" on it. I hate myself pretty good for that one too. He passed before i lost the seeds.

Thatoneguyyouknow_ said:

isnt mazar itself a skunk cross though?


Edit: yea, Mazar is skunk #1 x afghani according to googling anyway, prob some modern recreation but idk. I rarely research this kind of thing online because of the conflicting information, i roll with the information and experience of growers ive met in person mainly when it comes to oldschool growing information.

Idk if i know what im talking about or not here, essentially.

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I'm sure a lot of the Mazar strains now are some form of hybrid. Sam Skunkman said that the original roadkill smelling skunk #1 was the same parents as the sweeter skunk#1.

That lineage was Afghani (Mazar) x Colombian, then selfed, then crossed to Acapulco Gold. So his version of Mazar he used was before skunk1 and most likely landrace genetics.

Infusd said:

I'm sure a lot of the Mazar strains now are some form of hybrid. Sam Skunkman said that the original roadkill smelling skunk #1 was the same parents as the sweeter skunk#1.

That lineage was Afghani (Mazar) x Colombian, then selfed, then crossed to Acapulco Gold. So his version of Mazar he used was before skunk1 and most likely landrace genetics.

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We got our Skunk, here in East, Ky, in 1978. I started smoking weed, in 1967, and have seen a lot of locally grown weed from here in Ky, Ohio, West Virginia. Not so much anymore. But early on, from the late 60s-until I got ratted out, in 97. And a buddy, that had the original skunk, still grew, up until 2 years ago, until he passed. He was the one that knew Noodles, who gave him the Skunk, and Afghani. Afghani in 1972-73.
I( started buying seeds, as soon as they became available, from the ad in the back of High Times. I ordered the original Mazar, ( 1984 ) as well as a couple others, and the Post Stamp, actually came from. SANTA BARBARA. CALIFORNIA. Not Europe. The money did go to Europe. Seeds, were in the USA. It was some really good weed. But was lost.
Also saw a good deal of Vietnamese, in 71-72, when some of my sisters older friends, came back from Nam, and brought it back. Along with Opium. My older sisters boyfriend, used to get me stoned, when I was 8 years old, in summer of 67, soon to be 9 in November 67. Also turned me on to Hendrix. I started playing guitar, when I was 5, and when I was 8, Id get stoned, and he would show me stuff, on the guitar. Blues. How to tune. Notes on the fretboard. I still play.

I got 12 years on a mandatory minimum-5 million dollar fine x 10-Life in 97, for 1200 clones. Partner I gave 500 clones to, to put on his 2000 acre cattle farm, in Lincoln County Ky-150 miles away, got busted, and ratted me out. He got off, scott free. He was 70, I was 39. He was a friends uncle. I did 8 years locked up, and 5 years supervised release. No Parole, in the feds.

Noodles, that personally bred the Skunk, we had, from 78-84, says his was a Kerela x some Unnamed Afghani. He was also the originator, of Meigs County Gold.

Still to this day. The Afghan Noodles gave my buddy. Is the best Indica, Ive smoked. And it must have been some kind of nonhybridized strain, as every plant was like a clone of the other, and it never did degrade, in the 11-12 years, he grew it. Not counting how long Noodles had it.

Your buddy didn’t happen to work for an elevator company did he ?? I met an older than me guy that use to come to a popular salmon fishing river here in MI that we hung out with every year since maybe 2009 and he had the legit skunk every time we met up. He was from “ just south of peducah ?? ) and come to find out he grew it along the river here in MI would prep his planting holes with salmon carcasses every fall and return every spring to plant while steelhead fishing. Last we talked a couple years ago he was gonna give me clones cuz he didn’t want this strain to die !! Was the last I heard from him ! Great Ol’ boy we used to call him grampa at fish camp

I appreciate your insight into this whole history !!

Jmaes Mabley said:

We got our Skunk, here in East, Ky, in 1978. I started smoking weed, in 1967, and have seen a lot of locally grown weed from here in Ky, Ohio, West Virginia. Not so much anymore. But early on, from the late 60s-until I got ratted out, in 97. And a buddy, that had the original skunk, still grew, up until 2 years ago, until he passed. He was the one that knew Noodles, who gave him the Skunk, and Afghani. Afghani in 1972-73.
I( started buying seeds, as soon as they became available, from the ad in the back of High Times. I ordered the original Mazar, ( 1984 ) as well as a couple others, and the Post Stamp, actually came from. SANTA BARBARA. CALIFORNIA. Not Europe. The money did go to Europe. Seeds, were in the USA. It was some really good weed. But was lost.
Also saw a good deal of Vietnamese, in 71-72, when some of my sisters older friends, came back from Nam, and brought it back. Along with Opium. My older sisters boyfriend, used to get me stoned, when I was 8 years old, in summer of 67, soon to be 9 in November 67. Also turned me on to Hendrix. I started playing guitar, when I was 5, and when I was 8, Id get stoned, and he would show me stuff, on the guitar. Blues. How to tune. Notes on the fretboard. I still play.

I got 12 years on a mandatory minimum-5 million dollar fine x 10-Life in 97, for 1200 clones. Partner I gave 500 clones to, to put on his 2000 acre cattle farm, in Lincoln County Ky-150 miles away, got busted, and ratted me out. He got off, scott free. He was 70, I was 39. He was a friends uncle. I did 8 years locked up, and 5 years supervised release. No Parole, in the feds.

Noodles, that personally bred the Skunk, we had, from 78-84, says his was a Kerela x some Unnamed Afghani. He was also the originator, of Meigs County Gold.

Still to this day. The Afghan Noodles gave my buddy. Is the best Indica, Ive smoked. And it must have been some kind of nonhybridized strain, as every plant was like a clone of the other, and it never did degrade, in the 11-12 years, he grew it. Not counting how long Noodles had it.

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So I'm pretty sure I've read some of your posts on here and other forums. Thank you for sharing your story. Most of this was before my time (was born early 80s), but I was pretty much born into the scene, and have come to really appreciate the early years and all of the stories from the people who were the driving force in this whole culture.

Damn they really railroaded you over those clones. You got caught up in the bullshit drug war like so many people and it's complete garbage how everybody is profiting on weed in the legal market now, off the backs of people like you. Some of them are the same people responsible for writing the laws and locking everybody up.

What I love about most of the stories I hear is the overall not giving a fuck attitude and the absolute brass balls that many of you had. Without guys like you, I'd never have even known about skunk bud.

There's no doubt that Noodles was responsible for a big part of the Skunk in the Midwest and it seems like his is another Skunk variety that is pretty well known, as told by a bunch of people. I've also heard it called Meigs County Skunk. Meigs County Gold is another legendary strain. His skunk and the skunk 1 RKS were both sativa dominant, and both came about around the same time in the mid-late 70s. Crazy to think that was 50 years ago.

I'm wondering if the Afghani is the key to the skunk. That was my thoughts a few weeks ago. Sam Skunkman says it wasn't the Afghani that had the skunk smell, but that seems to be a connecting point in both his Skunk & the Meigs County Skunk. Sounds like that line was a landrace that was inbred and stabilized.

I appreciate you passing the knowledge of Kerala x Afghani. I actually have a good lead on some landrace Kerala seeds and I just picked up a huge variety of Afghani seeds from all different regions.

Sorry to hear about your friend passing, sounds like you guys have a long history with this plant. Hopefully it brings you some peace knowing that he had the skunk all the way through, and that's longer than anybody else I've heard of. You guys are some legends.

Trae1170 said:

@Seazofcheese420
Hey brotha, you have a great grow going here, how did you get so many old strains. I just got my hands on a pack of 1974 Jew Gold myself.
I need to know, what is the 81' Florida strain you mentioned above... is that the original Crippy?

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i know this is an older post, but do you know much about Crippy?
A buddy of mine was in Maimi when its was around and he had me hunting for it. I now have 2 cuts from 2 different people, one was just crippy and other tampa crippy, i am plan on flowering them soon, in the same tent. Looking for any folks that might be able to verify then when i grow it out

What’s COMPLETE BULLSHIT is how the governments want to profit from it now after 100 years of them wanting to put people in cages for the rest of their natural born lives for the same EXACT thing they’re profiting from now

Beazy said:

Your buddy didn’t happen to work for an elevator company did he ?? I met an older than me guy that use to come to a popular salmon fishing river here in MI that we hung out with every year since maybe 2009 and he had the legit skunk every time we met up. He was from “ just south of peducah ?? ) and come to find out he grew it along the river here in MI would prep his planting holes with salmon carcasses every fall and return every spring to plant while steelhead fishing. Last we talked a couple years ago he was gonna give me clones cuz he didn’t want this strain to die !! Was the last I heard from him ! Great Ol’ boy we used to call him grampa at fish camp

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No, my buddy, was a musician, and former bandmate of Ralph Morman, who sang on Joe Perry's 1st solo album, after he left Arrowsmith.
Let the Music Do the Talking.
Im on the opposite end of the state as Paducah. Im in North East, Ky. Hill country. Not far, from the mountains.
My buddy grew a lot of weed on the Levisa, and Tug Forks, of the Big Sandy River. The Ohio River. Scioto River. Kentucky River. Cave Run Lake.
He met Noodles, when the band he was in, opened for James Gang, in Charleston, Wv, in 1972.

Ok I figured it was a looooong shot but I’m just a lil’ buzzed right now and was hoping beyond hope to make a connection to my Ol’ buddy Eric from salmon camp !! Appreciate ya even answering !! And that’s cool a hell your buddy played with those cats

Infusd said:

So I'm pretty sure I've read some of your posts on here and other forums. Thank you for sharing your story. Most of this was before my time (was born early 80s), but I was pretty much born into the scene, and have come to really appreciate the early years and all of the stories from the people who were the driving force in this whole culture.

Damn they really railroaded you over those clones. You got caught up in the bullshit drug war like so many people and it's complete garbage how everybody is profiting on weed in the legal market now, off the backs of people like you. Some of them are the same people responsible for writing the laws and locking everybody up.

What I love about most of the stories I hear is the overall not giving a fuck attitude and the absolute brass balls that many of you had. Without guys like you, I'd never have even known about skunk bud.

There's no doubt that Noodles was responsible for a big part of the Skunk in the Midwest and it seems like his is another Skunk variety that is pretty well known, as told by a bunch of people. I've also heard it called Meigs County Skunk. Meigs County Gold is another legendary strain. His skunk and the skunk 1 RKS were both sativa dominant, and both came about around the same time in the mid-late 70s. Crazy to think that was 50 years ago.

I'm wondering if the Afghani is the key to the skunk. That was my thoughts a few weeks ago. Sam Skunkman says it wasn't the Afghani that had the skunk smell, but that seems to be a connecting point in both his Skunk & the Meigs County Skunk. Sounds like that line was a landrace that was inbred and stabilized.

I appreciate you passing the knowledge of Kerala x Afghani. I actually have a good lead on some landrace Kerala seeds and I just picked up a huge variety of Afghani seeds from all different regions.

Sorry to hear about your friend passing, sounds like you guys have a long history with this plant. Hopefully it brings you some peace knowing that he had the skunk all the way through, and that's longer than anybody else I've heard of. You guys are some legends.

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Ive got a couple packs of landrace Kerala/Chellacutti, but havent grown them.
I got them from Khalifa Genetics. They say, its the most Energetic strain, they have. They got the genetics, from Coco Genes-Collectors Collective. These have like a 9x Stretch!!!!

Jmaes Mabley said:

We got our Skunk, here in East, Ky, in 1978. I started smoking weed, in 1967, and have seen a lot of locally grown weed from here in Ky, Ohio, West Virginia. Not so much anymore. But early on, from the late 60s-until I got ratted out, in 97. And a buddy, that had the original skunk, still grew, up until 2 years ago, until he passed. He was the one that knew Noodles, who gave him the Skunk, and Afghani. Afghani in 1972-73.
I( started buying seeds, as soon as they became available, from the ad in the back of High Times. I ordered the original Mazar, ( 1984 ) as well as a couple others, and the Post Stamp, actually came from. SANTA BARBARA. CALIFORNIA. Not Europe. The money did go to Europe. Seeds, were in the USA. It was some really good weed. But was lost.
Also saw a good deal of Vietnamese, in 71-72, when some of my sisters older friends, came back from Nam, and brought it back. Along with Opium. My older sisters boyfriend, used to get me stoned, when I was 8 years old, in summer of 67, soon to be 9 in November 67. Also turned me on to Hendrix. I started playing guitar, when I was 5, and when I was 8, Id get stoned, and he would show me stuff, on the guitar. Blues. How to tune. Notes on the fretboard. I still play.

I got 12 years on a mandatory minimum-5 million dollar fine x 10-Life in 97, for 1200 clones. Partner I gave 500 clones to, to put on his 2000 acre cattle farm, in Lincoln County Ky-150 miles away, got busted, and ratted me out. He got off, scott free. He was 70, I was 39. He was a friends uncle. I did 8 years locked up, and 5 years supervised release. No Parole, in the feds.

Noodles, that personally bred the Skunk, we had, from 78-84, says his was a Kerela x some Unnamed Afghani. He was also the originator, of Meigs County Gold.

Still to this day. The Afghan Noodles gave my buddy. Is the best Indica, Ive smoked. And it must have been some kind of nonhybridized strain, as every plant was like a clone of the other, and it never did degrade, in the 11-12 years, he grew it. Not counting how long Noodles had it.

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Jeez man, that's f*cking steep. If there's one thing im thankful for, it's the modern legal climate shift on cannabis penalties, though, regardless of the hypocrisy involves. I've wanted to come back home to southern Appalachia to grow my entire adult life.


Genuinely appreciate the background info. Makes me feel a little bit of appalachian pride too. Shout out from the TN mountains.


This old audio engineer. His name was Tom, thats all i ever knew. Showed me enough to believe he had worked personally with a few interesting musical artist, not really anyone really huge, claimed connections though. 99% sure the afghani he had, which was absolute the best indica i have ever smoked in my entire life as well, had something to do with a person called noodles... or i at the very least heard him ramble on about someone by the name when we were drinking some night. He had a clone mother with a damn truck, and he said it wasnt the first. His chem mother was on hydro for some reason and worming all over the place, id bet money its what caused his fire.

The afghani land race should absolutely be just that, homogenous land race. If all the males and females are not the same, you do not have in your posession a land race.

But memories are also very fallible things and ringing a bell dont mean shit after you\ve been alive a bit and ive smoked many a time since then. (I was smokin by 12 growing by 13) His afghani is actually the afghani in my peaceblaster genepool a few gens back.

The gene pool's pollen donor was the columbian land race. Got those columbian seeds from an old world traveler calling himself "Boston Mike" who had spent time backpacking and gringo'ing it up in SA for several years, and would constantly mail stuff back to his family and friends. Met him at a KC bones show in a bar in kansas city. Talked for a couple hours. I gave him some of my acid, he gave me some of his (still some of the best ive had in my life) and i ended up following him after the show to grab some colombian seeds he had mailed himself back years before. Were the last of em he had. I only got a couple out of a dozen seeds i tried to germinate.. Big lanky bushy sativa, lots of hairs, took 13+ weeks to flower out. Ended up making a feminized cross with it because i only had to two females, and frankly, the plant was a major pain to clone, took up a lot of room, and ages to flower. Wasn't feasible at the time to have a plant like that around long for me.

Was able to bring the genetics into the lineage i had going though, and it got all kinds of skunked up lol. Whole reason ive become so interested in the old skunk plants.

This was the columbian flower, actually still had dig-upable pics of that one. Both females were identical, completely identical.

Beazy said:

Ok I figured it was a looooong shot but I’m just a lil’ buzzed right now and was hoping beyond hope to make a connection to my Ol’ buddy Eric from salmon camp !! Appreciate ya even answering !! And that’s cool a hell your buddy played with those cats

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Another buddys brother, is Russell Kunkle. He is a drummer. His younger brother Moe, and I got busted, for weed, when I was 12, and he was 14. On the Ohio River bank.

Russell Kunkel (born September 27, 1948) is an American drummer and producer who has worked as a session musician with many popular artists, including Jackson Browne, Jimmy Buffett, Harry Chapin, Rita Coolidge, Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Dan Fogelberg, Glenn Frey, Art Garfunkel, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Carole King, Lyle Lovett, Reba McEntire, Stevie Nicks, Linda Ronstadt, Bob Seger, Carly Simon, Stephen Stills, James Taylor, Joe Walsh, Steve Winwood, Neil Young, and Warren Zevon. He was the studio and touring drummer for Crosby & Nash in the 1970s, and has played on all four of their studio albums.

I also know Billy Ray Cyrus, and used to date his sister, Angie, for a brief moment, in the 80s. She and Miley, could pass for sisters. Used to sell Billy weed, and my buddy with the Skunk, also used to get it for him. I also sometimes jam with Billys brother, Kebo.

Another buddies little brother, Timmy Sergent, is Pedal Steel player for Dierks Bently. He used to play in a band with my skunk buddies older brother, in Huntington, Wv.

Hopefull Stoner said:

Can u show that post of LD and I didn’t see him say RKS but rather 79 skunk which is why I came here.

Fuk I hated undone threads right from the start. Didn’t expect this bs in 24’

I got back from usmc in 82’ hooked up with a legit queen pin who I Danced with in our club.
Fast forward = no I didn’t ask for any of their stuff as I was still weed.
Fast forward her dad sold weed. Yes, skunk from west Va. I bought it for 135/zip. It was delicious and sold at 12/g.
Found bag seed and the one they flourished was exact duplicate to the HT cover photo. Folks thought I was lying and it really was my plant. Nobody could tell the difference. 400 hps start to finish. That light ballast was stolen. It would run cool enough to keep ur palm on the ballast. That’s okay there circle ️ spot was canceled and to the Fringe they are

Dude just called it skunk and it would stink up the place. Yet, it was. It road kill skunk period

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I believe that dude because im across the mountain in va and i really think i was gifted a few grams of it as recent as 2018. I was on a 20 year hiatus smoking at the time so i had no idea it was rare lol

I would imagine over there was alot like here, we were in skunk up to our eyeballs in the 90’s. I had no idea that fruity skunk existed until a couple years ago