2 TENTS AND ELEVEN PLANTS AUTOS

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
Checked all pots none ready.
Rotated big tent.
Made some cal-mag water for tomorrow.
Left my 2 gallon morning humidifier jugs in the wet room and it's at 64 degrees so put both jugs on top of tent to warm up. I am not making that mistake again.
You go ahead and put cold water in your humidifier. Go ahead I dare you!

 

[Greenadian]

What happens of you ise cold water in the humidifier? What type of humidifier?

 

[JIMKSI64]

What happens of you ise cold water in the humidifier? What type of humidifier?

ACI cloudforge.
Come on greenadian, just think it through. I know that's hard cause I certainly did not think it through at all.
You have a tent stabilized at 79 degrees and you start pumping water vapor 20 degrees lower than your air temp. Actually I made ro and used it right away and it was more like 26 degrees lower.
Instead of having moisture added and a stable humidity I got temps that would drop faster than opening the tent and I am like now wth. Playing with settings moving panels OMG I was close to raging my grow room.
Water left in the grow room is about 7 degrees less than the tent temp and does not cause the issue.

 

[Greenadian]

I am nowhere near that detailed of a grower!!!
I have tried a few humidifiers....some have left a white residue on everything by the next day

 

[JIMKSI64]

I am nowhere near that detailed of a grower!!!
I have tried a few humidifiers....some have left a white residue on everything by the next day

The biggest problem with humidity add is the night time transition. When you remove the lights and allow the tent to resume night time temps the humidity peaks as the temp drops.
My first use of a humidifier did the same thing.
The trace that the app runs showed me what happens and all I needed to do was to bump the duct fan pull up one step for the transition.
This eliminated the moisture residue that would have turned into PWM if any spores had been around.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Night/day transition

Remember the top line of data is the current date and time.
The trace is history data

Day/night transition.

Weekly numbers

You can see some days I could not stabilize at 79 so I ran the stability not the temp.
Entire grow

You can see where the progression of vdp rise through the grow. .7 to current 1.2

 

[Greenadian]

Im sure of I printed off all those amd sat and stared at it a while and stacked them on top of one another for another couple hours......ah who im kidding. None of that makes sense to Me . Still don't know shit abot VPD and don't really think I will anytime soon!

 

[JIMKSI64]

Im sure of I printed off all those amd sat and stared at it a while and stacked them on top of one another for another couple hours......ah who im kidding. None of that makes sense to Me . Still don't know shit abot VPD and don't really think I will anytime soon!

Just worry about the stability of your grow space. I use vdp but you can just use the humidity and the temp.
You want temps and humidity to be stable over the course of an hour. Of you can keep your temps withing .4 degrees of your target and your humidity withing 2% of your target that would be like settings 79 degrees temp goes from 79.1 to 78.7 degrees and your humidity target 60% can go up to 61 and down to 59.
This level rate of change will help with transperation and growth.

 

[JIMKSI64]

And here is a trace of a pocket bump on the phone making

everyone hunt for vdp at the same time.
And then the correction after the alarm went off to my phone and I reset it.

And it has a screen lock

 

[Greenadian]

Hey @JIMKSI64 do ya mind if I post my stats from my Vivosun mini cabinet?

 

[JIMKSI64]

Hey @JIMKSI64 do ya mind if I post my stats from my Vivosun mini cabinet?

Of course not growme!

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Watered all plants that needed it ( 8 of 9 ) with cal-mag ro water at 5ml gallon rate.
Top dressed balance of plants with a mixture of perlite and soil conditioner.
Watered slooooowly and this maintenance task was 4 hours.

Released the hounds!
Almost all lower restraints let off with one still tied down being the un watered plant.
All pots took between 2 liters and 1.7 liters with no runoff as I added by weight. Then I adjusted tare for the pots as some had 1.2 oz of wire removed.
Panel at 70% tops at 30k lux with secondaries at 28k lux. I do have some lowers to move up but I am done for the day.
3 hour checks all day due to light increase.
Small tent lagging but after feeding and tucking I moved them lights to 30k also. Mad the footprint of the plants much tighter to get more to 30k.
Apple fritter Auto 41 days above ground

 

[Greenadian]

This damn thing tells me all sorts of shit
I dont keep track, vut after a little chat about VPD this morning, I clicked on the app and it gave a 4 or 5 day breakdown. I just reused the head since it had a light, fan and exhaust that I can control through the app

 

[JIMKSI64]

This damn thing tells me all sorts of shit
I dont keep track, vut after a little chat about VPD this morning, I clicked on the app and it gave a 4 or 5 day breakdown. I just reused the head since it had a light, fan and exhaust that I can control through the app

The Vivosun weekly tracker does not really give data that is useful. It tends to cut off highs and lows making your system look pretty good.

Get into the actual trace like this and post a 4 hour period for your grow. Just expand out the trace until you see 4 hours and post that. Should look like this.

And a 1 hour trace. The default is 1 hour

I did some tent opening today from 8 to noon so it was bouncing around. You want to see the minimum and maximum for vdp to be within its setting. If you have it on 1.2 vdp it should show a trace that has nothing but 1.2 as high, average and low. That shows stability.
If you look it will also coincide with the humidity being around 1 up and 1 down.

 

[Greenadian]

I was impressed with the nice bar graph in really cool colours

 

[JIMKSI64]

I was impressed with the nice bar graph in really cool colours

When I look at it I do not see the matrix anymore I see blonde, brunette, redhead.
Cypher

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
Today's light raising had me checking often. 8 pm saw a slight droopy tired looking plant and by 10 pm I saw 5 dropping tired plants.

Backed off light to 50% and will restart tomorrow at the same 70% and look to see if we are adapting ok.
Nothing burning just tired looking smaller leaves. Fans and top fuzz ok.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
With moving up to 30k I have also reduced humidity another notch.
And for the first time my nighttime humidity stayed higher than I want.
It is that part of the grow where the day and night humidity need to be split. I need 5% less humidity lights on vrs lights off so the in room humidifier will be turned on by 10pm to get me a lower lung room and keep my night vdp one notch below day.
Woke up today with VDP steady at .9
Yesterdays stretch showed a bunch of tops rising 3/4 of an inch and more starts on the lower pistle runs.
Rotated plants that need it.
I should be installing my lifing fixtures but I am still. Having dead legs today.
When the legs start spazzing like this I do not even drive .

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.

Got last plant watered 1.9 liters ro and cal-mag at 5ml per gallon rate.

As this is the deepest greenest of the plants I am going to forgot the top dress at this time. Plant looks good and we have development for some nice 8 inch side runs and 4 inch interior runs plus the tops which is looking more like a top . All suckers removed and all but main stem pull wire removed.

Hope to boost some flowers tomorrow up into the pattern.

I might need to do some surgery on the fimm. The leafs are growing slow cause Fuck I Missed and it's a super stack and everything is in everybody else's way. Should have addressed it earlier when they did not wither away.

Apple fritter Auto day 42 above ground.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Top down shots.