2 White Widow And A Og Kush In Coco With 300w Leds. First Grow.

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Week 3 of flowering began yesterday during the heavy rain so my humidity jumped to 70%. Making plans to combat humidity for the rest of the grow where I want humidity around 50% but hopefully less. The colas are creeping their way up and are spreading out nicely but I want it more even for my next grow. Defoliated the plants to remove excess. I still want to remove some more fan leaves at the top-middle of the colas that are blocking bud sites but I'll either wait 2 more weeks to do so or not do it at all depending on what grows. Watering canna coco a+b at 10ml/g.
 
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What do I do if my colas are reaching my cheap LEDs? They are currently about 6" from the light. No light burn so far. I've seen other grows where people are letting the buds hang out right at the LEDs. Is that the answer?

My lights are about 16" from the canopy.

A look from tonight.
 
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What do I do if my colas are reaching my cheap LEDs? They are currently about 6" from the light. No light burn so far. I've seen other grows where people are letting the buds hang out right at the LEDs. Is that the answer?

My lights are about 16" from the canopy.

A look from tonight.
There’s no configuration you can do to raise the lights? My CMH was always on ratchet straps until my girls
Stretched to 4 inches under the light, I ditched the straps on this one, and used industrial zip ties rated for 185 lbs. it bought me like 6 more inches
 
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There’s no configuration you can do to raise the lights? My CMH was always on ratchet straps until my girls
Stretched to 4 inches under the light, I ditched the straps on this one, and used industrial zip ties rated for 185 lbs. it bought me like 6 more inches

Haha yeah im raising my lights when they turn on tonight. I was high and thought oh no i need to leave my lights at the height they are now but of course, I can raise them up. I got those ratchet straps as well and they will be going up an extra 8 inches or so i think.
 
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What do I do if my colas are reaching my cheap LEDs? They are currently about 6" from the light. No light burn so far. I've seen other grows where people are letting the buds hang out right at the LEDs. Is that the answer?

My lights are about 16" from the canopy.

A look from tonight.
Just looked at your thread. Plants look happy. As far as how close to the lights, that depends on the lamps. You should of got recommendations on that from the manufacturer. My G8 LED'S are very powerful, no closer than 16" on them.

I see you saved some money and rigged a way to reduce noise on a fan. When you can afford it, and if noise is an issue, you may want to consider a variable voltage transformer [Variac Controller] which costs about 75 to 90 bucks. With those, the only noise you hear is the sound of the air moving thru the ducts. Zero motor noise. I run 2 of them, one on the intake and one exhaust. But, I must be super stealthy is the reason.

Btw, a cheap fan speed controller sold on almost all grow sites and hydro stores will have your motors roaring after a couple grows. Pic provided. :cool:
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Just looked at your thread. Plants look happy. As far as how close to the lights, that depends on the lamps. You should of got recommendations on that from the manufacturer. My G8 LED'S are very powerful, no closer than 16" on them.

I see you saved some money and rigged a way to reduce noise on a fan. When you can afford it, and if noise is an issue, you may want to consider a variable voltage transformer [Variac Controller] which costs about 75 to 90 bucks. With those, the only noise you hear is the sound of the air moving thru the ducts. Zero motor noise. I run 2 of them, one on the intake and one exhaust. But, I must be super stealthy is the reason.

Btw, a cheap fan speed controller sold on almost all grow sites and hydro stores will have your motors roaring after a couple grows. Pic provided. :cool: View attachment 811547 View attachment 811548

I want to do a stealthy grow just to see what its like. However I don't need to be stealthy in my part of the world aside from keeping the smells and noise away from the neighbors.

I was actually looking to get a variac controller right from the beginning but opted to cheap out and get the cheap fan speed controller. The canopy grew over the area where I had my speed controller hanging off a rear cross bar and I was happy that the controller worked on my exhaust and the noise is so much better. It is mostly the sound of air moving at a fast rate as you noted.

All the expensive gear is in my wish list when I get a chance to have a proper grow that isn't as rushed as my first current grow (moving at the end of this grow). The good news is, I can use all my cheap components for seed, sprout and vegging.

Thanks for the comments everyone!
 
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Plants are constantly on the move up! Had to adjust my lights 3 times in the past 3 days. Any advice on taking pictures without the blurple showing? I'm assuming flash with the light off works but is there any negative affect to the plants in flowering like stress from that sudden flash? I was thinking of waiting for the end of my grow to get shots of the finals harvest but it would be nice to see their true color in photos before harvest as well.
 
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Plants are constantly on the move up! Had to adjust my lights 3 times in the past 3 days. Any advice on taking pictures without the blurple showing? I'm assuming flash with the light off works but is there any negative affect to the plants in flowering like stress from that sudden flash? I was thinking of waiting for the end of my grow to get shots of the finals harvest but it would be nice to see their true color in photos before harvest as well.
Flash from camera won't hurt anything. Turn the lights off just long enough for pics, and you may need additional room lighting for good pics, depending on the camera. Then lights back on. Just don't take pics during dark cycle. Lookin good man. :cool:
 
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Flash from camera won't hurt anything. Turn the lights off just long enough for pics, and you may need additional room lighting for good pics, depending on the camera. Then lights back on. Just don't take pics during dark cycle. Lookin good man. :cool:

Awesome! Thanks for the advice!
 
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Plants are constantly on the move up! Had to adjust my lights 3 times in the past 3 days. Any advice on taking pictures without the blurple showing? I'm assuming flash with the light off works but is there any negative affect to the plants in flowering like stress from that sudden flash? I was thinking of waiting for the end of my grow to get shots of the finals harvest but it would be nice to see their true color in photos before harvest as well.

Looks great! One question, do you like the meizhi or viper better? My meishi burnt half blues diodes out after 1 year. But my other meizhi mr is still working after 12 months.
 
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Looks great! One question, do you like the meizhi or viper better? My meishi burnt half blues diodes out after 1 year. But my other meizhi mr is still working after 12 months.

Hmmm if i had to choose, it would be the Meizhi reflector 130 actual watts at the wall (300w). However, between those two, I would purchase the cheaper one that I can find which is what I did with my lights. The Meizhi that had diodes burn out for you is probably the same generation meizhi light I bought very cheaply. I read heat can really degrade the life of cheap leds and I noticed the older meizhi lights ran much hotter than the newer models which I would assume, leads to an earlier death for your Meizhi. I switched out the fan in mine and it has helped a tiny bit with heat from that led. But honestly, I want to ditch these lights (save them for veg?) and build either a Cob set up or a Quantum board light or a mix of both.

They both did great in Veg producing very nice growth as far as I can see but that's not saying much because this is my first grow.

My viparspectra straddles the middle left of my tent covering both white widows. The meizhis are at the ends.

Hopefully by the end of this grow, I can reap some great flower and potency from this set up with these lights. I'll be posting my results right here when it happens.
 
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Update, into week 4 of flower. Heat wave in new england and it's hot and sometimes very humid. My plants just kept growing up and up. Next time I really need to control the scrog more, the canopy is uneven. Lights are at the top of my 6' tent. They are at least 12" from the canopy. Introduced some co2 in the form of dry ice into the tent. Probably won't do much since I'm not in a sealed room but I wanted to experiment and the temp and humidity was in a good place to try it.
 
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Photo update - OG Kush slowly frosting up!
Did you get as a clone or seed? Do you know which type of og it is? I just got a Tahoe clone only (swerve), the thing is way lanky n I'll have to use something to support her up. Is yours like that too?
 
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Did you get as a clone or seed? Do you know which type of og it is? I just got a Tahoe clone only (swerve), the thing is way lanky n I'll have to use something to support her up. Is yours like that too?

I wish I could tell you all the info on the og kush but it was a freebie from wherever my friend bought the white widow seeds from so not a clone. Friend didn't want a paper trail for himself so he got rid of all the info and forgot it all unfortunately. He said either the seed bank or the breeder had a lion for the logo if it rings familiar to anyone.

What distance do you have your meizhi LEDs from the top of the clone? When I started my grow, I had my white widows stretch because I had them sprouting under 2 underpowered t5's that were a little to far from my sprouts and they stretched to get more of that t5 light but the og kush got more light from the t5s because of how I had them set up. I had to prop up my white widows at the start as well and eventually installed 2 meizhi LEDs at 24" from the top of the plant for veg.

For clones, I have no idea what distance they need to be at but you can always inch the light down bit by bit while monitoring the affects on your Tahoe and see if it helps. Depending on how old your clone is, 18" - 24" can be a safe distance to start with but you'll have to monitor it to be sure its not burning from that distance just to be safe. I have some clones rooting now so I wonder if I'll encounter the same lankyness from the start as well which is probably a yes from the looks of it.
 
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But i was just rambling thinking what I'd do when my clones are ready. I'm guessing you have other worries about your clone tho. Hopefully it eventually fills itself out with time and care.
 
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I wish I could tell you all the info on the og kush but it was a freebie from wherever my friend bought the white widow seeds from so not a clone. Friend didn't want a paper trail for himself so he got rid of all the info and forgot it all unfortunately. He said either the seed bank or the breeder had a lion for the logo if it rings familiar to anyone.

What distance do you have your meizhi LEDs from the top of the clone? When I started my grow, I had my white widows stretch because I had them sprouting under 2 underpowered t5's that were a little to far from my sprouts and they stretched to get more of that t5 light but the og kush got more light from the t5s because of how I had them set up. I had to prop up my white widows at the start as well and eventually installed 2 meizhi LEDs at 24" from the top of the plant for veg.

For clones, I have no idea what distance they need to be at but you can always inch the light down bit by bit while monitoring the affects on your Tahoe and see if it helps. Depending on how old your clone is, 18" - 24" can be a safe distance to start with but you'll have to monitor it to be sure its not burning from that distance just to be safe. I have some clones rooting now so I wonder if I'll encounter the same lankyness from the start as well which is probably a yes from the looks of it.
Thanks man, I had at 24 inches and lowered, I'm down to 10 inches from the top now and they seem to bush a lil more. I've heard heat can stretch them too n we had record heat in co. So my closet we 90 or so and I think that contributed, to a strain that is known to be lanky in the first place. Does your throw 3 leaves? Mine is mostly 3leaves. Good luck with your og, I've heard that originals are hard to get so that's awesome you got a seed one. Mine I thought sinces it's been cloned out so much my have lost a lil vigor, but I love smokin og so much I had to try her out :)
 

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