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Would you join in on a 2024 ONE GALLON CHALLANGE

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 87.2%
  • No

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • I’d like to discuss other pot size options for the challange

    Votes: 1 2.1%

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  • Poll closed Jul 3, 2024.

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I also have their insecticidal soap I find it works very well for gnats even though both products are recommended for gnats I found the soap is 10x more effective for gnats specifically

If I’m using it for gnats I top dress the medium with DE once the top layer dries back from its watering so the DE can sit on the top dry layer and stay effective, can also lay down a inch deep layer of perlite then dust the top of that to be even more effective

Then the soap spray down as well
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this is great! Thanks for sharing. I’ve been really happy with the “dead bug” stuff, I ended up getting their copper fungus? Spray. I’ll definitely get the insecticidal soap! It will be my “threcipe”
 
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@cannafarmer420 definitely going to be a subcategory “most late posts through out contest!”
 
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@Thukah you have, hands down the most badass setup in the pot for this contest! I fucking love your greenery! It’s beyond wild to me! Never saw this before, and the dude I worked with years ago chewed my ass for letting little tiny weeds grow in the plot under plants (my theory for letting them go was a nice ground cover) he told me they take up the nutrients from the plant it was like a clover or something, very small and hardly a deep root system. Thank you for proving that ass hat wrong lol!!!
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I usually do a 12 seed cover crop in my larger pots, they’re mostly different types of clover and some other nitrogen fixers. I have to chop them down during frower or I end up having nitrogen toxicity in flower stage. At least I think that’s what happened when I didn’t chop them during a fifteen gallon living soil grow with an autoflower last year.
 
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this is great! Thanks for sharing. I’ve been really happy with the “dead bug” stuff, I ended up getting their copper fungus? Spray. I’ll definitely get the insecticidal soap! It will be my “threcipe”
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Yep! I keep the copper fungicide as well, also have the southern AG Fungicide that I interchange with the copper fungicide
 

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@Thukah you have, hands down the most badass setup in the pot for this contest! I fucking love your greenery! It’s beyond wild to me! Never saw this before, and the dude I worked with years ago chewed my ass for letting little tiny weeds grow in the plot under plants (my theory for letting them go was a nice ground cover) he told me they take up the nutrients from the plant it was like a clover or something, very small and hardly a deep root system. Thank you for proving that ass hat wrong lol!!!
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haha thanks there's worms in the pot too, so at some point soon I will chop it down for the wormies to eat. No clue how this is going to go, have read its a bad idea in smaller pots but we shall see first hand!
 
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haha thanks there's worms in the pot too, so at some point soon I will chop it down for the wormies to eat. No clue how this is going to go, have read its a bad idea in smaller pots but we shall see first hand!
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Can you elaborate on why it’s not recommended? : )

Thats super cool with worms!
 
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I usually do a 12 seed cover crop in my larger pots, they’re mostly different types of clover and some other nitrogen fixers. I have to chop them down during frower or I end up having nitrogen toxicity in flower stage. At least I think that’s what happened when I didn’t chop them during a fifteen gallon living soil grow with an autoflower last year.
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Hmmm! Just read a little about it, with you and thukah running the double green setup. Thats really cool!
 
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Can you elaborate on why it’s not recommended? : )

Thats super cool with worms!
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I expect the nutrients in the soil to be used up faster than the biology can replenish it just based on the size of the pot. I would be very surprised If she doesn't look hungry at some point down the road.
 
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I expect the nutrients in the soil to be used up faster than the biology can replenish it just based on the size of the pot. I would be very surprised If she doesn't look hungry at some point down the road.
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Ok. Thanks for the explanation!

I might be missing something from McFly’s post, but he said when growing clovers he had a little too much nitrogen at some point, have you ever experienced this? (I think he said that)

this is all a very new concept to me and I’m high as shit right now
 
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Ok. Thanks for the explanation!

I might be missing something from McFly’s post, but he said when growing clovers he had a little too much nitrogen at some point, have you ever experienced this? (I think he said that)

this is all a very new concept to me and I’m high as shit right now
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Fresh off the internet:
Clover fixes nitrogen through a symbiotic relationship with Rhizobium bacteria that live in the soil. The bacteria colonize root nodules in the clover plant and convert nitrogen gas from the air into a form that the plant can use. In exchange, the clover provides carbohydrates to the bacteria for energy. This process is called nitrogen fixation.
 
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Fresh off the internet:
Clover fixes nitrogen through a symbiotic relationship with Rhizobium bacteria that live in the soil. The bacteria colonize root nodules in the clover plant and convert nitrogen gas from the air into a form that the plant can use. In exchange, the clover provides carbohydrates to the bacteria for energy. This process is called nitrogen fixation.
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This is exactly verbatim what I read! it sounds awesome! Love the entire chain! Thanks man : )
 
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This is exactly verbatim what I read! it sounds awesome! Love the entire chain! Thanks man : )
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Yep! I keep the copper fungicide as well, also have the southern AG Fungicide that I interchange with the copper fungicide
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I use this as well and recommend. I haven't used their copper, yet.
 
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Contest is going very well with all the submissions. This was really a good idea
 
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I usually do a 12 seed cover crop in my larger pots, they’re mostly different types of clover and some other nitrogen fixers. I have to chop them down during frower or I end up having nitrogen toxicity in flower stage. At least I think that’s what happened when I didn’t chop them during a fifteen gallon living soil grow with an autoflower last year.
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I use the same clover. Ive never had it get me that high in nitrogen.
 
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I use the same clover. Ive never had it get me that high in nitrogen.
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So we have three users and three different effects from clover? This is getting interesting!( the variables x3) might make a it a hard case to solve.
 
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So we have three users and three different effects from clover? This is getting interesting!( the variables x3) might make a it a hard case to solve.
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Typically I use clover, alfalfa, and legumes for their nitrogen fixing properties and buckwheat/lupine for more of the same along with phosphorus scavenging. I only have experience with this in 100 gallon+ containers though. I have def noticed times of high N confirmed by soil tests, but I have also been heavy handed with kelp and neem/karanja meal in previous years.
 
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Typically I use clover, alfalfa, and legumes for their nitrogen fixing properties and buckwheat/lupine for more of the same along with phosphorus scavenging. I only have experience with this in 100 gallon+ containers though. I have def noticed times of high N confirmed by soil tests, but I have also been heavy handed with kelp and neem/karanja meal in previous years.
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So it’s sounding like pot size is definitely a factor! : ) really paying attention to the clover club here! Im probably not going to try it at this point. but I really really like the machinismes of action here!!! Thanks for sharing Thukah!
 
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So it’s sounding like pot size is definitely a factor! : ) really paying attention to the clover club here! Im probably not going to try it at this point. but I really really like the machinismes of action here!!! Thanks for sharing Thukah!
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Exactly what I was saying when we first were discussing having this "contest" about being exposed to many grow styles and how much we'd all learn.

We should do this annually and have a big one with categories for the different grow styles in April/May with actual prizes from sponsors and ask them to judge
 
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Only 38 days until we flip to flower!

The way it's going right now, I won't have much of a plant by then or anytime to train

I would not transplant at this point but part of me is thinking about doing it to see if it gets it to take off.
I've had success in the past with transplanting slow growing seedlings or seedlings with issues, seems to kick them into gear shortly after.
Decisions, decisions
 
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