3D printed dual input drip ring

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Was looking at drip rings on amazon and had a WTF moment at the prices. Figured I'd rather spend a few cents in plastic so I did this design. In the end I want two lines going into it anyway and that isn't really an option with commercial ones. I would recommend against a transparent plastic and PETG is probably the best choice. I just used this blue stuff because it is easy to see if there are internal flaws before I print a bunch of them in black.

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Tested the flow. Really even water distribution even with a single inlet hose. I want to run two pumps and two synchronized timers so I can avoid single point failures. Being able to leave for a few days without Murphy kicking me in the Balls will be nice.

Slightly stunning download numbers. Figured this would be a pretty niche item but its been downloaded 230 times in 4 hours...

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funny i see this now. i'm looking for a CAD file of a floraflex 4" floracap. Seeing as you designed this, I'm assuming you have some knowledge of this ecosystem (I'm a bit out of my element here). have you seen anything comparable in your ventures into 3d printing?
 
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funny i see this now. i'm looking for a CAD file of a floraflex 4" floracap. Seeing as you designed this, I'm assuming you have some knowledge of this ecosystem (I'm a bit out of my element here). have you seen anything comparable in your ventures into 3d printing?
Floracap isn’t exactly a complex design. Wouldn’t be hard to model a printable version. Is there something you don’t like about their design or just looking for a cheaper alternative?

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I've only used grodan as a starter so I'm taking a swag at what makes sense. I guessed at a 1" center hole but I have no idea if that is too big or too small. Sorta depends on the use. Let me know what needs to be tweaked.

Happy to model larger caps if people want.

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Floracap isn’t exactly a complex design. Wouldn’t be hard to model a printable version. Is there something you don’t like about their design or just looking for a cheaper alternative?

-Eskander
I'm a cheap bastard and don't want to pay $60 for the amount of caps I need haha my nephew has a 3d printer and figured it would be a good project for him to do instead of letting the thing collect dust now that his initial excitement has faded away.
 
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Have yet to do RW brother... @Dirtbag and @tobh Will be able to give ya better info on that. Just wanted to respond since I was tagged.
 
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Have yet to do RW brother... @Dirtbag and @tobh Will be able to give ya better info on that. Just wanted to respond since I was tagged.
Ah. Figured you had gone down that path at some point or another.

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Ah. Figured you had gone down that path at some point or another.

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I'm thinking about it... not sure it will be much different than coco... a few small differences but have yet to find out. If you go this route and do a diary would appreciate it if you can tag me in there to follow along 👍
 
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I'm thinking about it... not sure it will be much different than coco... a few small differences but have yet to find out. If you go this route and do a diary would appreciate it if you can tag me in there to follow along 👍
I’ve done DWC, NFT, TAG, FAG and DTWCC and the DTWCC is by far my favorite. It is reliable with a higher margin for error or equipment failure. A root structure that will actually support a plant and coco is cheaper than good dirt.

I love RW for seeds and clones but I would need a fairly compelling reason to do a full grow in it. I could see going to slabs if I couldn’t sterilize the CC after use but as it stands, I can just toss bags of it into the autoclave.

The two things I’m changing now are going to raised wide short bags for better aeration (presumably) and better automation. Thus the dual drip ring.

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I’ve done DWC, NFT, TAG, FAG and DTWCC and the DTWCC is by far my favorite. It is reliable with a higher margin for error or equipment failure. A root structure that will actually support a plant and coco is cheaper than good dirt.

I love RW for seeds and clones but I would need a fairly compelling reason to do a full grow in it. I could see going to slabs if I couldn’t sterilize the CC after use but as it stands, I can just toss bags of it into the autoclave.

The two things I’m changing now are going to raised wide short bags for better aeration (presumably) and better automation. Thus the dual drip ring.

-Eskander
Yeah I was a hydro guy and did 1 peat run to know it wasn't for me then a coco and the growth rates are just a bit less than RDWC with the forgiving nature have me thinking I'm staying in coco... I have considered RW and will definitely try one in the future at some point just for personal experience... I will also go balls out and try and aeroponic grow in the future and the growth rates in that should be scary but no forgiveness in aeroponics at all.

In my experience I'd say from an over pro vs con RW or coco are the tops for gain vs risk.

But it all depends on the budget and time you have.
 
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Yeah I was a hydro guy and did 1 peat run to know it wasn't for me then a coco and the growth rates are just a bit less than RDWC with the forgiving nature have me thinking I'm staying in coco... I have considered RW and will definitely try one in the future at some point just for personal experience... I will also go balls out and try and aeroponic grow in the future and the growth rates in that should be scary but no forgiveness in aeroponics at all.

In my experience I'd say from an over pro vs con RW or coco are the tops for gain vs risk.

But it all depends on the budget and time you have.
I'm actually getting dragged back into high pressure aeroponics for a project I'm working on but that is for sweet potatoes in a VERY different application. I never would have touched it again otherwise. So much can go wrong and kill stuff so quickly... You loose pressure for an hour and it is probably game over. Your redundancy needs redundancy...

If it is dialed in, you might see faster growth and better yields but in terms or risk/reward, I don't see it ever being practical for normal growing. By all means, play with it. It was fun as an engineering challenge but that was about all I got out of it.

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I'm actually getting dragged back into high pressure aeroponics for a project I'm working on but that is for sweet potatoes in a VERY different application. I never would have touched it again otherwise. So much can go wrong and kill stuff so quickly... You loose pressure for an hour and it is probably game over. Your redundancy needs redundancy...

If it is dialed in, you might see faster growth and better yields but in terms or risk/reward, I don't see it ever being practical for normal growing. By all means, play with it. It was fun as an engineering challenge but that was about all I got out of it.

-Eskander
100% and could not agree more... Im going to do it fully knowing the risks but there is no way I would ever recommend it to someone. If done right sure it's crazy growth rates but that can change in hrs to dead plants.
 
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100% and could not agree more... Im going to do it fully knowing the risks but there is no way I would ever recommend it to someone. If done right sure it's crazy growth rates but that can change in hrs to dead plants.
You know, if you want to give it a run there is an application that is mostly practical. Well… Slightly more practical anyway. If you build a system into a plastic bin you can use it as a cloner once you are done messing with it. You can do a single pump and two nozzles with a solenoid on each. You can run that as a single plant along with a CC grow and compare the results. Once you decide it is more trouble than it is worth then you still have a decent autocloner.

Letting nutrients pool a little at the bottom will give you a bit of CYA when something fails vs strict drain to waste. Not that there is much waste. You really want to use the .3 nozzles without drip control and you must use a pump that will hit 150 psi or better. Higher is defiantly better. Run low ppm and work up slowly. Everything is on a razor edge as far as starved vs burned. Lastly, filter your nutrients before you add them to the reservoir and you can avoid an in line filter.

Won’t lie. It’s a fun concept to play with. Just as useful as tits on a turtle outside of microgravity but still fun.

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One suggestion you might want to make that a U shape rather than a full circle. That way to can still get it off a bushy plant if needed mid grow.
 
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One suggestion you might want to make that a U shape rather than a full circle. That way to can still get it off a bushy plant if needed mid grow.
Like this? Second file :)
Mostly about “I probably should have put this on sooner” though.
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What autoclave do you have? I’m trying to come up with a diy 55gal drum version. My 18l is too small.
To be honest I have no idea. I’ll look when I get to the lab tomorrow. I wouldn’t buy one that size for personal use. You can sterilize to almost completion with just a turkey frier and a big pot. If you want to want something really dead then a pressure cooker hits the same pressure/temperature and you can always toss an ampule standard in the center to make sure. 23L pressure cookers are $120 on Amazon and a turkey frier is chump change too.

On the other hand if you get astainless steel pressure cooker that size then it allows for other things that might come in handy. It turns out that bone, flesh, hair, fat, etc.. will rapidly become tan goop of a fairly neutral ph when autoclaved with some lye. Even teeth are reduced to just a few specks of calcium. In the worst parts of Mexico this process is known as “making pozole”.

God knows it is better than barrels of HF lol…

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JoryK

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Tested the flow. Really even water distribution even with a single inlet hose. I want to run two pumps and two synchronized timers so I can avoid single point failures. Being able to leave for a few days without Murphy kicking me in the Balls will be nice.

Slightly stunning download numbers. Figured this would be a pretty niche item but its been downloaded 230 times in 4 hours...

-Eskander
That’s way killer cool man. I love the idea, the dual inputs are great. I’ve looked for them with dual inputs so many times and haven't ever found them. What size in diameter are the ones you made? You should really think about selling them. I bet you’d do pretty well with a Shopify site or something selling them in various diameters n such.
Anyways, I was wondering if you’d consider making me a few, and if so, what you’d want for them? I’m just not a real texkkie kinda person, and I couldn’t ever do something like that.
thanks a lot,
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Was looking at drip rings on amazon and had a WTF moment at the prices. Figured I'd rather spend a few cents in plastic so I did this design. In the end I want two lines going into it anyway and that isn't really an option with commercial ones. I would recommend against a transparent plastic and PETG is probably the best choice. I just used this blue stuff because it is easy to see if there are internal flaws before I print a bunch of them in black.

Comments? Suggestions?

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I’ve been making homemade drip rings for years drilling out 1/4” vinyl tubing. Needless to say there are variations in the water output at each site. This though is AWESOME!!!! Does it cost much to do? I could use 80-100 of these bad boys. I don’t quite follow you with the double inputs? Creates redundancy? Could you explain in layman’s terms? I would absolutely love to be able to create something like this in my own. My library has a 3-d printer but I wouldn’t get past the starting line. To say I am not tech savvy is an understatement. 😁
Great job though. What I like about my drip rings is they are elevated slightly so I can physically see the water coming out. Awesome job👍👍
 

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