A few questions for the farm…

[Berniemac]

1. CO2 packs?
Does anyone use them, what are your thoughts??
- Here’s my theory, I smoke around my bud and other plants every now and then and idk if I’m trippin, idk if I’m the only one, or idk if it’s just the CO2 I’m letting out when I breathe, but i always notice plants I blow smoke on grow nice and are always healthy , aside from me doing my part in taking care of their water, light, and nutrient needs. So maybe adding a CO2 pack to the grow room during flower or something might help? Any ideas or recommendations or any contrary as to why they do nothing lol

2. Has anyone see the one leaf bandit?
- I am growing a plant that I grew indoor from a cutting and inside it grew great , outside it’s growing okay in height but the top 3 or 4 set of leaves have went from the usual 5 leaf set down to one long leaf… I haven’t taken a picture, I’ll share one later but it’s just odd and I’m curious if anyone has experienced anything similar or is this the result of improper light or something I did wrong lol


3. Has anyone tried leaving clones in water? -I did for a month just to see what would happen and they rooted lololol

I been really testing the limits on stressing plants to see what they can and can’t tolerate and man Cannabis is something special, they can come back from a lot and they can undergo a lot as well. Has anyone tried leaving any clones in water?

4. Any advice for make pollen collection? Short term and long term storage? Does the flour trick really work?
-I’m currently having a male plant open up his sacks all over my floor lmaooooo
Gonna do the good ol male to female rub but if I wanted to collect some for use later what would y’all recommend from your own successes? I know there are lots of ways, and I’ve tried a few, but they don’t always have the best success.

Anyways, what’s up everyone, hope everyone is staying dank , would love to connect with more people and trade seeds and share genetics and information!

 

[THCosmic]

1. I use a yeast-based CO2 generator in the tent. My air intake is also right above my desk so I am constantly breathing CO2 into the tent even when I am not looking at the plants. As for smoke, it does contain CO2, but it also contains toxins that can harm your plants. It can also clog the stomata of your plants preventing their leaves from efficiently absorbing CO2.

I can't really answer on the rest, but I was wondering, for #3 is that done without any rooting product? Just taking a pruned branch and sticking it in water?

 

[Berniemac]

1. I use a yeast-based CO2 generator in the tent. My air intake is also right above my desk so I am constantly breathing CO2 into the tent even when I am not looking at the plants. As for smoke, it does contain CO2, but it also contains toxins that can harm your plants. It can also clog the stomata of your plants preventing their leaves from efficiently absorbing CO2.

I can't really answer on the rest, but I was wondering, for #3 is that done without any rooting product? Just taking a pruned branch and sticking it in water?

Ayeee , I appreciate the info Cosmic!! I looked into it, and it seems like a super easy and badass way to get co2 into the space, thanks!! Have you had any experience with co2? Does it really make the plants bigger?

Oh for the cutting I forgot to mention that I did add a tiny amount of honey to stimulate root growth , after a week and a half or so I added more water and that’s it lol
I still haven’t even taken them out of the cup, ima see how much longer I can root them for, they are simply test subjects that eventually make it to my garden bed and do what they do lol

 

[THCosmic]

Ayeee , I appreciate the info Cosmic!! I looked into it, and it seems like a super easy and badass way to get co2 into the space, thanks!! Have you had any experience with co2? Does it really make the plants bigger?

Oh for the cutting I forgot to mention that I did add a tiny amount of honey to stimulate root growth , after a week and a half or so I added more water and that’s it lol
I still haven’t even taken them out of the cup, ima see how much longer I can root them for, they are simply test subjects that eventually make it to my garden bed and do what they do lol

I have never done a side-by-side comparison of using a CO2 booster vs not, but I have read a few studies that support it. Personally, I think it does work, but I can't know for sure without actually comparing 2 clones. Until then, I will trust the studies.

Ah, the old honey trick. Never tried it myself since I never really trusted it would work. Sounds like a good alternative if I run out of rooting gel.

 

[Captspaulding]

Those co2 boosters?
The aqueeze aint really worth the juice
I’m not sitting here saying this stuff to be a dick or anything I’m just saying that I’ve tried them in the past and I’ve done side-by-side comparisons and they really don’t do anything. It’s not like running CO2 for a larger grow. That’s coming out of a regulator you can just basically smoke a joint with your tent door open and blow smoke into it and get the same result.
It’s not really applicable at all if you’re using smaller lights too it’s really only something that you need when you’re getting up into the 1000 W light area you know 5 x 5 and 6 x 6 sized lights on full blast

 

[THCosmic]

Those co2 boosters?
The aqueeze aint really worth the juice
I’m not sitting here saying this stuff to be a dick or anything I’m just saying that I’ve tried them in the past and I’ve done side-by-side comparisons and they really don’t do anything. It’s not like running CO2 for a larger grow. That’s coming out of a regulator you can just basically smoke a joint with your tent door open and blow smoke into it and get the same result.
It’s not really applicable at all if you’re using smaller lights too it’s really only something that you need when you’re getting up into the 1000 W light area you know 5 x 5 and 6 x 6 sized lights on full blast

It is not being a dick to have a counterpoint. It really does make more sense for large grows. Have a huge room to fill with CO2. I have 3 people in this house producing CO2 for 4 tiny plants. Can't imagine those large grows want to stuff 1000 people into their grow warehouse to generate some CO2.

Personally, I use the CO2 generator only because I am still at the mindset of "Why not? It can't hurt and it's cheap." A few more grows and I may enter the mindset of "Why? It's not worth the effort."

 

[Captspaulding]

It is not being a dick to have a counterpoint. It really does make more sense for large grows. Have a huge room to fill with CO2. I have 3 people in this house producing CO2 for 4 tiny plants. Can't imagine those large grows want to stuff 1000 people into their grow warehouse to generate some CO2.

Personally, I use the CO2 generator only because I am still at the mindset of "Why not? It can't hurt and it's cheap." A few more grows and I may enter the mindset of "Why? It's not worth the effort."

I cant arque with that sentiment 1 bit.
Also, i dig the pragmatism,
Alot folks lack that ability.
Its def a great trait.
Hey man, I understand 100%. I’ve got to touch the stove to find out whether or not its hot, even at 52.


Guess what? It fn hot
Also, I’m of the mindset that it’s better to go through the motions with a lot of this stuff too even if it doesn’t work or if you haven’t gotten a good word from someone in time because at the end of the day, you know even if it’s not the right application you’re still learning right?
Just because it might not be optimal for the conditions, you’re learning that by going through these motions.
It’s just the way a silly dumb old clown, sees it

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

1. CO2 packs?
Does anyone use them, what are your thoughts?

Nope. I haven't tried increasing CO2 above atmospheric levels. My understanding is that all the other growth factors need to be dialed in at a high level for the plant to take advantage on increased CO2. My growing style and needs don't support that. We do monitor CO2, however. The CO2 levels build up during the lights-off period and then drop when the lights are on. It's interesting to see how the CO2 decreases when photosynthesis begins, which is 6:00 AM. My wife monitors CO2 levels obsessively, so she probably opened the window about that time. I've given up on that dispute.

This image is from our Inkbird CO2 monitor:

2. Has anyone see the one leaf bandit?

It hasn't happened to me, but I've seen plenty of pictures here. It's a sign of revegging.

3. Has anyone tried leaving clones in water?

I did when I first tried it. It worked sometimes. Now, I use soil plugs and a humidity dome and get much better results. I only clone for amusement, though. I currently have more seeds than time left alive to grow them all, and yet, I still buy seeds. We love trying new strains.

4. Any advice for make pollen collection?

Nope. I've never tried it.

 

[Berniemac]

Those co2 boosters?
The aqueeze aint really worth the juice
I’m not sitting here saying this stuff to be a dick or anything I’m just saying that I’ve tried them in the past and I’ve done side-by-side comparisons and they really don’t do anything. It’s not like running CO2 for a larger grow. That’s coming out of a regulator you can just basically smoke a joint with your tent door open and blow smoke into it and get the same result.
It’s not really applicable at all if you’re using smaller lights too it’s really only something that you need when you’re getting up into the 1000 W light area you know 5 x 5 and 6 x 6 sized lights on full blast

Good to know Cap! What are your thoughts for a whole 10 x 12 x 10 foot room? I have heard my co worker say to just burn a piece of paper every now and then , but I wouldn’t want the smoke alarm to go off and some advice on the internet says too much can release lots of toxins that aren’t good for the plants.. tough lolol

 

[Berniemac]

I cant arque with that sentiment 1 bit.
Also, i dig the pragmatism,
Alot folks lack that ability.
Its def a great trait.
Hey man, I understand 100%. I’ve got to touch the stove to find out whether or not its hot, even at 52.


Guess what? It fn hot
Also, I’m of the mindset that it’s better to go through the motions with a lot of this stuff too even if it doesn’t work or if you haven’t gotten a good word from someone in time because at the end of the day, you know even if it’s not the right application you’re still learning right?
Just because it might not be optimal for the conditions, you’re learning that by going through these motions.
It’s just the way a silly dumb old clown, sees it

I think that’s human nature isn’t it, we all have to go through things ourselves to really get that full circle completeness of understanding… lol

 

[Berniemac]

Nope. I haven't tried increasing CO2 above atmospheric levels. My understanding is that all the other growth factors need to be dialed in at a high level for the plant to take advantage on increased CO2. My growing style and needs don't support that. We do monitor CO2, however. The CO2 levels build up during the lights-off period and then drop when the lights are on. It's interesting to see how the CO2 decreases when photosynthesis begins, which is 6:00 AM. My wife monitors CO2 levels obsessively, so she probably opened the window about that time. I've given up on that dispute.

This image is from our Inkbird CO2 monitor:
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It hasn't happened to me, but I've seen plenty of pictures here. It's a sign of revegging.


I did when I first tried it. It worked sometimes. Now, I use soil plugs and a humidity dome and get much better results. I only clone for amusement, though. I currently have more seeds than time left alive to grow them all, and yet, I still buy seeds. We love trying new strains.


Nope. I've never tried it.

I get that completely, all the factors have to be up there to have effective co2 uptake. I was also under the impression that CO2 can help them tolerate heat stress and light stress a little better and in my grow room with about 3- 300W lights and 3 - 150W lights it can get pretty hot and I’ve taken Captains advice and have since raised my lights to about 30 inches and don’t use 100 percent power but maybe with the right CO2 generator I can get it close

 

[Berniemac]

Nope. I haven't tried increasing CO2 above atmospheric levels. My understanding is that all the other growth factors need to be dialed in at a high level for the plant to take advantage on increased CO2. My growing style and needs don't support that. We do monitor CO2, however. The CO2 levels build up during the lights-off period and then drop when the lights are on. It's interesting to see how the CO2 decreases when photosynthesis begins, which is 6:00 AM. My wife monitors CO2 levels obsessively, so she probably opened the window about that time. I've given up on that dispute.

This image is from our Inkbird CO2 monitor:
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It hasn't happened to me, but I've seen plenty of pictures here. It's a sign of revegging.


I did when I first tried it. It worked sometimes. Now, I use soil plugs and a humidity dome and get much better results. I only clone for amusement, though. I currently have more seeds than time left alive to grow them all, and yet, I still buy seeds. We love trying new strains.


Nope. I've never tried it.

I got the picture…. Look at this mofo…. That’s interesting because it had just flipped into flower like normal, and a few weeks pass by and then I notice this … lol
Anyways just an experiment to carry on until I finally get tired of seeing it then chop it down and compost lolol

 

[Captspaulding]

Good to know Cap! What are your thoughts for a whole 10 x 12 x 10 foot room? I have heard my co worker say to just burn a piece of paper every now and then , but I wouldn’t want the smoke alarm to go off and some advice on the internet says too much can release lots of toxins that aren’t good for the plants.. tough lolol

well,
You could take up opera singing while smoking five joints in each hand at the same time I like a challenge I don’t know about you
Now, as far as your male pollen collection, it depends on how you’re trying to go at it now when I’m doing it basically what I’ll do is I’ll take my mail and I’ll get some wax paper or parchment paper all right and I’ll wrap it bouquet style as if it were dozen roses, for example And then I will get some type of silicone bottle or a old medicine bottle. I’ll take some wire and I’ll tie it off to the bottom of that bouquet as the male plant opens and dumps pollen. You can just take your your brush and brush it down into that catch. Here’s some pictures of how I do it.
This was a big breed because I woke up seeds that were 37 years old at the time so I went ahead and took advantage and made 31 crosses at the same time. It’s nice when a good plan comes together, but it’s simple and easy.

 

[Grownsince95]

1. The fungus bags "work" in that they produce CO2 but most growers are not set up for a closed room or running enough light/heat to make a difference. I experimented with a quart mason jar of yeast and sugar water and got my 2 by 4 tent up over 1300 ppm. Then summer kicked in and I can't run a closed tent anymore.

2. One leaf bandits are plants that have re-vegged or at least tried to.

3. For the past few months I've been lazy and cloning in solo cups full of water. 100% success so far.

4. Yes the flour/pollen mix works but only in a completely air tight container. It also works without the flour too. Just remember the pollen needs to be dried for a day or two first no matter what. The biggest factor is the air tight/vacuum sealed container. Collecting is just a matter of making a paper "collar" like dogs get when they go to the vet.

 

[Captspaulding]

1. The fungus bags "work" in that they produce CO2 but most growers are not set up for a closed room or running enough light/heat to make a difference. I experimented with a quart mason jar of yeast and sugar water and got my 2 by 4 tent up over 1300 ppm. Then summer kicked in and I can't run a closed tent anymore.

2. One leaf bandits are plants that have re-vegged or at least tried to.

3. For the past few months I've been lazy and cloning in solo cups full of water. 100% success so far.

4. Yes the flour/pollen mix works but only in a completely air tight container. It also works without the flour too. Just remember the pollen needs to be dried for a day or two first no matter what. The biggest factor is the air tight/vacuum sealed container. Collecting is just a matter of making a paper "collar" like dogs get when they go to the vet.

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I like your style sir

 

[Grownsince95]

I like your style sir

The admiration is mutual!

 

[Captspaulding]

The admiration is mutual!

i get lazy as hell with clones too, i use a box. And sometimes ill just leave them there for well over a month they get all types of beat up, maybe had 3-4 fail ever.
These plants are amzing resilient,
Its 1 part lazy. 1 part me having no space yet. Soon ill be growing plants upside down attached to the ceiling.
For science and stuff

 

[Crazyformes]

well,
You could take up opera singing while smoking five joints in each hand at the same time I like a challenge I don’t know about you
Now, as far as your male pollen collection, it depends on how you’re trying to go at it now when I’m doing it basically what I’ll do is I’ll take my mail and I’ll get some wax paper or parchment paper all right and I’ll wrap it bouquet style as if it were dozen roses, for example And then I will get some type of silicone bottle or a old medicine bottle. I’ll take some wire and I’ll tie it off to the bottom of that bouquet as the male plant opens and dumps pollen. You can just take your your brush and brush it down into that catch. Here’s some pictures of how I do it.
This was a big breed because I woke up seeds that were 37 years old at the time so I went ahead and took advantage and made 31 crosses at the same time. It’s nice when a good plan comes together, but it’s simple and easy.

That looks so funny.....that plant looks like those dogs that get nutted....they wrap the cone around the dogs head say so he can't lick....

 

[Berniemac]

well,
You could take up opera singing while smoking five joints in each hand at the same time I like a challenge I don’t know about you
Now, as far as your male pollen collection, it depends on how you’re trying to go at it now when I’m doing it basically what I’ll do is I’ll take my mail and I’ll get some wax paper or parchment paper all right and I’ll wrap it bouquet style as if it were dozen roses, for example And then I will get some type of silicone bottle or a old medicine bottle. I’ll take some wire and I’ll tie it off to the bottom of that bouquet as the male plant opens and dumps pollen. You can just take your your brush and brush it down into that catch. Here’s some pictures of how I do it.
This was a big breed because I woke up seeds that were 37 years old at the time so I went ahead and took advantage and made 31 crosses at the same time. It’s nice when a good plan comes together, but it’s simple and easy.

Sorry been away for a minute,!!
Bruh honestly singing aloud with multiple J’s in hand is normal activity for me and my family
Yo capt! This is nice man, I dig the effort for sure, I did something half ass similar but only down below and didn’t see much collection, then I tried collecting it straight into my final collection vial, getting underneath every sac and tapping the pollen in( works but tedious), I have had success with freezing but need better technique, I never let dry, which I feel like I should this time around… lol
Ima try some in the fridge for short term too…
thanks for the sharing the advice and pictures, ima definitely try this set up soon!
But as we know, ain’t nothing like straight rubbing , grinding goodness into the pistils with fresh pollen from the sac lol

Here’s a look at one I got going on it’s an in house Hawaiian haze x grand gelato
This was a few days ago, since then them seeds have grown! This Hawaiian strain has such good genetics man, it’s so fast to germinate, to flower, to create and develop seeds, it’s a fucking GEM

 

[Berniemac]

1. The fungus bags "work" in that they produce CO2 but most growers are not set up for a closed room or running enough light/heat to make a difference. I experimented with a quart mason jar of yeast and sugar water and got my 2 by 4 tent up over 1300 ppm. Then summer kicked in and I can't run a closed tent anymore.

2. One leaf bandits are plants that have re-vegged or at least tried to.

3. For the past few months I've been lazy and cloning in solo cups full of water. 100% success so far.

4. Yes the flour/pollen mix works but only in a completely air tight container. It also works without the flour too. Just remember the pollen needs to be dried for a day or two first no matter what. The biggest factor is the air tight/vacuum sealed container. Collecting is just a matter of making a paper "collar" like dogs get when they go to the vet.

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I just have a decent size room like 10 x 10 x 10 so I haven’t really quite dialed in an efficient way to boost the CO2 levels , but at the same time idk if it’s even worth it like some people say. Decisions decisions lol

I have learned about the one leaf bandit and revegging lol
It’s and interesting thing, it’s like not sure what it wants to do, so it gets all confused and forgets its cannabis
But a little update the buds are coming in nicer, I’ll show y’all later …

Honestly the lazy way is the best way, don’t have to worry about to much, and if it works, then why not!!!! It just makes sense lol
You get it

You know I think the collar way would probably be best, I think I have lost a lot of pollen in suspension or in free fall because the wax paper was also kinda low, even without a draft or movement in the room, I guess even trying to bring it closer or tapping it onto the sheet, cause im assuming you dry it on the parchment as it falls for a few days right? Lol