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No one in America knows how to grow.

I throw bags of weed away constantly.

It's not bad cannabinoids. It's not low flavor. It's not harvested 2 weeks early.

The shit is literally unsmokable. I derive nothing positive and several negatives from smoking the shit America grows.

The "hash" I bought from a guy recently tastes more like an ashtray than a cigarette butt. I've not smoked weed that tasted that much like a house fire since trying Allison Justice after she talked big game about her flavor expertise. How the fuck do you grow weed who's keef tastes like a dirty dispensary joint roach.

Same shit over and over. All the American growers have the same exact problems. Who the fuck taught these people to grow?

Proven #1 The crops in America are all suseptible to pests and mold, and are coated in pesticides as a result. That's problem number one: No one knows how to grow a mold and bug free crop.

Problem number 2: Marijuana is a drug crop. The bud sucks ass because of the total lack of qualified drug crop producers. If you arent qualified to run a meth lab why the hell do you think you can produce cannabis? The amount of weed that has been ruined by excess magnesium and phosphorus is absurd. Beyond absurd. It's a chemical reaction. You have to know what the fuck the reaction is and why you are initiating the wrong reactions.


Problem 3: Hydroponics. The notion that nature's short chain carboxylic acid factory doesn't uptake short chain carboxylic acids from the rhizosphere. Wtf? CO2 is the only carbon American pot growers know about. Even the Hawaii natural farming losers don't know why Korean ferments help cannabis. (shirt chain fatty acids and alcohols, the shit cannabis flavor and entourage effect is actually made of, not nasty bottled doterra terpenes.)


Problem 4: Conventional (Academy) Ag. The notion that you can grow a quality plant by feeding poisonous nitric acid is absurd. The amount of energy wasted converting poison nitric acid into aminos is one reason the shit is so suseptible to mold and bugs who rely, as a fuel source, on intermediate forms of nitrogen in the long energy-wasting process of protein synthesis. Anyone who tells you plants did grow off residual aminos and peptides from last years stalks and animal scraps, anyone who claims nitrate saved the world, they should be dumped off a dry bridge.

Problem 5: Zero Cannabis crop experience. Have these American clowns even kept a mother plant? Have they ever taken clones, or do they hire an illegal immigrant for that? Or a not-so-hot chick for Instagram?

If you started indoors you won't grasp what I'm about to tell you. My first indoor crops stank like hell.. Like they always did outdoors.

For about two weeks. Then the leaves get 'burnt tips' the smell starts changing, and the quality becomes shit. Transplant into fresh soil, the stink returns. For another 2-3 weeks.

Hmmm.. What do I do? I test my best outdoor buds, and my shittiest indoor buds. For thc? For terpenes? Wtf people. How many of you Americans have tested the nutritional value of your buds? Any lab that can test pet food can tell you how to grow better weed if you'll spend the money on comparative analysis just once, for fucks sake..

What's the optimal % of phosphorus for OG kush? Magnesium? What's the fatty acid and protein profile of your best bud? You have no idea what your goal are, wasting your time on bullshit marketing concepts like thca and terpenes that have absolutely nothing to do with cannabis aroma taste or effect.

Pot headed grow tards still arguing "salts vs organics" while the crew who inadvertently started this pathetic debate decades ago were using pharmaceutical grade organic salts. The pothead forums, icmaggots trollituppers and thcfarmtards never grasped what organic meant, when high school graduates, composing the real producers of the 90s-2010, started talking.

BLAME THE STRAIN THOUGH. We went from No such thing as bad weed when I was growing it, to no such thing as good weed when you guys started growing it.
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sounds like you still got a lot of learning to do,.
better smarten up with the behaviour issues or it’s bye bye for good,.
 
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Just look at that avatar!! Troll
 
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I was wondering about thcv being manipulated
It would make sense if they were trying to find a way to reduce the smell.
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Someone was saying something about how long the high lasts cdb is more responsible for how long a high lasts more than thc does
Cdb when combined with thc will postpone the start of the high however cdb prolongs how long the high lasts
 
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Just look at that avatar!! Troll
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It’s a real shame this got hijacked. You can hardly have a good debate without a troll comment
 
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#45
DerikaKirk said:
No one in America knows how to grow.

I throw bags of weed away constantly.

It's not bad cannabinoids. It's not low flavor. It's not harvested 2 weeks early.

The shit is literally unsmokable. I derive nothing positive and several negatives from smoking the shit America grows.

The "hash" I bought from a guy recently tastes more like an ashtray than a cigarette butt. I've not smoked weed that tasted that much like a house fire since trying Allison Justice after she talked big game about her flavor expertise. How the fuck do you grow weed who's keef tastes like a dirty dispensary joint roach.

Same shit over and over. All the American growers have the same exact problems. Who the fuck taught these people to grow?

Proven #1 The crops in America are all suseptible to pests and mold, and are coated in pesticides as a result. That's problem number one: No one knows how to grow a mold and bug free crop.

Problem number 2: Marijuana is a drug crop. The bud sucks ass because of the total lack of qualified drug crop producers. If you arent qualified to run a meth lab why the hell do you think you can produce cannabis? The amount of weed that has been ruined by excess magnesium and phosphorus is absurd. Beyond absurd. It's a chemical reaction. You have to know what the fuck the reaction is and why you are initiating the wrong reactions.


Problem 3: Hydroponics. The notion that nature's short chain carboxylic acid factory doesn't uptake short chain carboxylic acids from the rhizosphere. Wtf? CO2 is the only carbon American pot growers know about. Even the Hawaii natural farming losers don't know why Korean ferments help cannabis. (shirt chain fatty acids and alcohols, the shit cannabis flavor and entourage effect is actually made of, not nasty bottled doterra terpenes.)


Problem 4: Conventional (Academy) Ag. The notion that you can grow a quality plant by feeding poisonous nitric acid is absurd. The amount of energy wasted converting poison nitric acid into aminos is one reason the shit is so suseptible to mold and bugs who rely, as a fuel source, on intermediate forms of nitrogen in the long energy-wasting process of protein synthesis. Anyone who tells you plants did grow off residual aminos and peptides from last years stalks and animal scraps, anyone who claims nitrate saved the world, they should be dumped off a dry bridge.

Problem 5: Zero Cannabis crop experience. Have these American clowns even kept a mother plant? Have they ever taken clones, or do they hire an illegal immigrant for that? Or a not-so-hot chick for Instagram?

If you started indoors you won't grasp what I'm about to tell you. My first indoor crops stank like hell.. Like they always did outdoors.

For about two weeks. Then the leaves get 'burnt tips' the smell starts changing, and the quality becomes shit. Transplant into fresh soil, the stink returns. For another 2-3 weeks.

Hmmm.. What do I do? I test my best outdoor buds, and my shittiest indoor buds. For thc? For terpenes? Wtf people. How many of you Americans have tested the nutritional value of your buds? Any lab that can test pet food can tell you how to grow better weed if you'll spend the money on comparative analysis just once, for fucks sake..

What's the optimal % of phosphorus for OG kush? Magnesium? What's the fatty acid and protein profile of your best bud? You have no idea what your goal are, wasting your time on bullshit marketing concepts like thca and terpenes that have absolutely nothing to do with cannabis aroma taste or effect.

Pot headed grow tards still arguing "salts vs organics" while the crew who inadvertently started this pathetic debate decades ago were using pharmaceutical grade organic salts. The pothead forums, icmaggots trollituppers and thcfarmtards never grasped what organic meant, when high school graduates, composing the real producers of the 90s-2010, started talking.

BLAME THE STRAIN THOUGH. We went from No such thing as bad weed when I was growing it, to no such thing as good weed when you guys started growing it.
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Gee. Why don’t you tell us how you really feel?
 
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It’s a real shame this got hijacked. You can hardly have a good debate without a troll comment
 
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#47
He didn’t even mention the use of Miracle Grow!
 
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I don't pay any attention to thc/cbd figures I can't think of anywhere I shop that lists them, maybe it's a European thing idk, is it?
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Here in America, I'm pretty sure the labeling and other regulations are individually set by the states. My state's labels look like this:

 
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Huh there is 0 thcv interesting
 
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#50
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Huh there is 0 thcv interesting
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Yeah... It's darn good weed, though.
 
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Yeah... It's darn good weed, though.
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I just find it interesting.
Breeding has always interested me.
On overgrow before it got busted so many of the big time breeders would openly talk to each other
They had there own forum
Overgrow was set up differently with old farts having there own forum, breeders there ect ect
You could interact with any forum however as it was set up the trolls would troll in the smokers forum and if they got out of hand they got sent to the troll forum & couldn’t interact with other users bar trolls.
Funnily it worked and other forums didn’t get trolled i can’t even remember it happening once
So you could have a good discussion with breeders albeit you wouldn’t debate unless you had some knowledge.
Its almost indescribable what it was like
I mean someone like the boss of sweet seeds talking to Neville or gypsy ect ect openly talking to each other is hard to convey. The amount of information was insane
lol I went down a rabbit hole with that one haha
 
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That sounds like it was really well set up
I dont doubt some of these people know what they are talking about....but they way they go about it is what keeps the mew growers away.

Im not much for debating.....but I'll read and read and read and take in both sides.
 
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#53
Gmix said:
I just find it interesting.
Breeding has always interested me.
On overgrow before it got busted so many of the big time breeders would openly talk to each other
They had there own forum
Overgrow was set up differently with old farts having there own forum, breeders there ect ect
You could interact with any forum however as it was set up the trolls would troll in the smokers forum and if they got out of hand they got sent to the troll forum & couldn’t interact with other users bar trolls.
Funnily it worked and other forums didn’t get trolled i can’t even remember it happening once
So you could have a good discussion with breeders albeit you wouldn’t debate unless you had some knowledge.
Its almost indescribable what it was like
I mean someone like the boss of sweet seeds talking to Neville or gypsy ect ect openly talking to each other is hard to convey. The amount of information was insane
lol I went down a rabbit hole with that one haha
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Gypsy is a top bloke I talk to him fairly regularly as for Neville I won’t go there out of respect for the dead
 
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Yeah debating has it’s place like you I tend to read more than debate.
I yap on about breeding a bit lol
I kinda would love to go back to doing it again myself but then I remember just how much hard work it is as I was never happy just throwing two stains together & calling it a day.
what makes sense to me with thcv is if you manipulate a strain to have a high thc why wouldn’t you try manipulating it in other ways
 
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Yeah debating has it’s place like you I tend to read more than debate.
I yap on about breeding a bit lol
I kinda would love to go back to doing it again myself but then I remember just how much hard work it is as I was never happy just throwing two stains together & calling it a day.
what makes sense to me with thcv is if you manipulate a strain to have a high thc why wouldn’t you try manipulating it in other ways
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I popped some reg beans myself this run to chuck a bit of pollen around put 5 seeds in 2 didn’t pop the other 3 were girls
 
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#56
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what’s your opinion

I sure remember 16% strains that rocked & got me the rest of us high.

Now we got these bud testers doing it for YouTube looking down there nose at anything below 20%

what’s your thoughts on thc content do you see 16% strains & swipe left as they say

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I only smoke my own grown.
I will grow everything, did I stutter or DO YOU HEAR ME....EVERYTHING.
I smoke for flavour, smell taste, effect and natural thrill.
I usually don't give a fuck what study says or some shits I would not live around tell me much about the herb, if they're exclusive from ANYTHING this plantdom has for us.
Oh, and I breed almost every plant I can because why not..... wish some humans would do the opposite but that's another forum altogether.

Yes even hemp has shown much for the world and humankind. Through cbd and other cannabinoid properties.
Plant love.
But gad there's people breeding for thc as everyother reason also.

No thc isn't the only desireable trait for me.
 
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#57
Gmix said:
I just find it interesting.
Breeding has always interested me.
On overgrow before it got busted so many of the big time breeders would openly talk to each other
They had there own forum
Overgrow was set up differently with old farts having there own forum, breeders there ect ect
You could interact with any forum however as it was set up the trolls would troll in the smokers forum and if they got out of hand they got sent to the troll forum & couldn’t interact with other users bar trolls.
Funnily it worked and other forums didn’t get trolled i can’t even remember it happening once
So you could have a good discussion with breeders albeit you wouldn’t debate unless you had some knowledge.
Its almost indescribable what it was like
I mean someone like the boss of sweet seeds talking to Neville or gypsy ect ect openly talking to each other is hard to convey. The amount of information was insane
lol I went down a rabbit hole with that one haha
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What do you mean busted ?
 
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overgrow was sold during the 90s, the owner got busted & the site servers sized & taken down.

Overgrow.com Busted, Servers Seized!

http://smokedot.org/content/view/315/2/ Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company, and Eurohemp.com Shut Down and Servers...
forums.digitalpoint.com
https://grasscity.forum/threads/overgrow-com-appreciation.368580/
 
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overgrow was sold during the 90s, the owner got busted & the site servers sized & taken down.

Overgrow.com Busted, Servers Seized!

http://smokedot.org/content/view/315/2/ Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company, and Eurohemp.com Shut Down and Servers...
forums.digitalpoint.com
https://grasscity.forum/threads/overgrow-com-appreciation.368580/
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So the one up now is not the original? Someone else runs it ?
 
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Yes. It’s nothing like it used to be
About 99% of original people on there never came back
 
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